Canadian involvment in Afghanistan

As usual? We one of the FIRST to commit ro Afghanistan in 2002, and we've already had two different missions there. I was stating the function of our armed forces. And did or the Parlaiment of Canada ever accuse Ameircans of being imperalists? No. You can use Chocojournal for your juvinile ramblings, thank you.

We're not "holding the fort down", as there is no fort there. We are building a fort.

You may not be impressed with Canada, but your generals were impressed with actions of our troops during the Afghan campaign, our JTF2 commandos and Coyote armoured units in particular. So, I'd suggest, for next time, actually learn something about the stiuation.

Now that we've taken Kandahar, I'm sure the world will continue to be impressed with the way Canadians fight, stabilize and reconstruct.

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Originally Posted by loyalist

As usual? We one of the FIRST to commit ro Afghanistan in 2002, and we've already had two different missions there.

Like I said, late to the party. Efforts in Afghanistan began publicly by the US and UK on 10/7/01.

Originally Posted by loyalist

And did or the Parlaiment of Canada ever accuse Ameircans of being imperalists? No. You can use Chocojournal for your juvinile ramblings, thank you.

where did i say that the parlaiment of canada accused the US of anything? I'm just stating that your "further the intertests of the Canadian government. That's how the world is," statements would be regarded as imperialistic if stated by an american.

and juvenile ramblings? HA! "OMG look at canada, we're so cool. we really put our lives on the line. we kicked so much ass in afghanistan." The fact is, after 9/11 the first country from the internat'l community to hook up the US should've been canada since you all do live in the northern backyard, but no. It was our old buddies the UK. Now Canada is trying to pick up slack by acting like they're doing such a great job after the US and UK have nullified the initial threat.

Originally Posted by loyalist

Now that we've taken Kandahar, I'm sure the world will continue to be impressed with the way Canadians fight, stabilize and reconstruct.

You're giving the Canadians credit for taking Kandahar? The US had driven all Taliban forces out of Kandahar by December 7th. If you've "taken" Kandahar it's only because it was delivered on a silver platter. Canada's efforts have been a drop in the bucket on the grand scheme.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Stop trolling the Canucks, gelfling.

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I try to like Americans, I really do.

Anyhow, my mistake. We had begun to commit resources in late 2001:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/af.../timeline.html

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Originally Posted by Lord Styphon

Stop trolling the Canucks, gelfling.

Ok fine. Sorry loyalist. Props to Canada for sticking it out in Afghanistan. Hopefully they'll be able to take care of some of the opium traffic. and props to loyalist for wanting to be a patriot and support his military. you're right in that it's disgusting that your fellow canadians aren't supportive of their own troops.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

Hopefully they'll be able to take care of some of the opium traffic.

Ironically enough, the Taliban was pretty effective at destroying the opium crop year after year. It was the invasion that increased the amount of opium exported to the rest of the world. Lest we forget that the British Empire took control over Afghanistan strictly for control of the opium trade.

But nobody has any imperialist intentions today... right? Follow the money.

Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

you're right in that it's disgusting that your fellow canadians aren't supportive of their own troops.

How is it not supporting the troops by wanting them to be home with their families..... Ahh Vietnam... the gift that keeps on giving!

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Watts

How is it not supporting the troops by wanting them to be home with their families..... Ahh Vietnam... the gift that keeps on giving!

There are a lot of people who are so shortsighted that they publicly blame soldiers for their missions. Don't forget Jane Fonda and all the crap she gave the guys in Vietnam... as though the whole thing was their fault.

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

There are a lot of people who are so shortsighted that they publicly blame soldiers for their missions. Don't forget Jane Fonda and all the crap she gave the guys in Vietnam... as though the whole thing was their fault.

Oh, I don't. But c'mon what do you expect from a liberal-elite celebrity? She probably didn't even know where she was sitting on anyway. She just "thought" that "Oh golly gee! How nice! They're offering me a seat and letting me look through a scope!". Bet she regrets that now anyhow.

Also I wouldn't have given a hero's welcome to the "brave" soldiers of My Lai either. Except the soldier that shot himself instead of carrying out his orders. Civilized people should be above that. Period.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Watts

Also I wouldn't have given a hero's welcome to the "brave" soldiers of My Lai either. Except the soldier that shot himself instead of carrying out his orders. Civilized people should be above that. Period.

Well, if you can let Fonda slide for her actions, certainly you can be understanding that war and desperation will frequently break people into becoming less than human and turn them into violent savages.

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

Well, if you can let Fonda slide for her actions, certainly you can be understanding that war and desperation will frequently break people into becoming less than human and turn them into violent savages.

Certainly, but that doesn't mean there can't be any accountability either. What was done at My Lai was not heroic in any sense of the word. Furthermore I think My Lai underminded and hurt the war effort more then Fonda's actions did; nationally, and internationally. My Lai was the last straw, where Fonda was just a tool of the North Vietnamese.

Eh, let's just agree to disagree because I don't think we'll get anywhere.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Watts

Eh, let's just agree to disagree because I don't think we'll get anywhere.

good deal. look at us being such polite diplomats yielding in a decently interesting non-hostile discussion. rock on!

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Originally Posted by MetheGelfling

good deal. look at us being such polite diplomats yielding in a decently interesting non-hostile discussion. rock on!

It's probably because I'm not a democrat. :biggrin:

*edit*
Or maybe it's because we can see each other's points and be rational adults about it. Naw, it's because I'm not a democrat.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Canadian troops are only in Afghanistan in greater numbers now because we have to clean up the American's mess. We were doing fine when Martin was in power, keeping a minimal contingent in Afghanistan and kepping Bush at bay. I blame Harper for every Canadian soldier who dies - we have no business being there finishing Bush's dirty work so we can make some more money.

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1) The Canadian contingent was sceduled to expand before Harper was in power (no shit, buddy, you can't train all kind of troops for mission-specific capbilities that fast)

2)We realy have no economic interest in Afghanistan

3) The Taliban is still well and alive in Afghanistan

4) There is widespread support for the Afghan mission throughout the Canadian Forces

5) Extremists are killing Canadians, not Harper.

FELIPE NO

Disturbing little piece on how some of thew fallen troops are being treated: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...ADA24/TPStory/

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