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[Wii] The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess Discussion Thread
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 03:58 AM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 03:58 AM #151 of 723

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 04:23 AM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 08:23 PM #152 of 723
Look, you either buy it regardless of Revo features, or you don't. If you don't, you can wait another 3 years for the next Zelda.

I'd rather get it regardless of TP having TP features. And if the launch of Revo is weak, hell TP would be a bonus. Nicely, that.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 10:08 AM #153 of 723
Originally Posted by chaofan
I'd rather get it regardless of TP having TP features. And if the launch of Revo is weak, hell TP would be a bonus. Nicely, that.
i just hope this doesn't indicate that the launch is weak! "hey, our launch sucks. let's help it out by making zelda compatible!"

i would say, "nintendo would never do that!" ..... but the gamecube's launch wasn't exactly good either :) i hope they release a good game other than zelda as well.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 11:58 AM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 12:58 AM #154 of 723
Originally Posted by Elixir
I don't think Nintendo would do something so childish.

Also, about that picture:It's photoshopped. :>
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 12:02 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 06:02 AM #155 of 723
I don't know whether or not I should feel sorry for you, that was exactly 90 spoilers to read that.

Originally Posted by Elixir
I don't think Nintendo would do something so childish.
I was being sarcastic here, silly.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 12:07 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 11:07 AM #156 of 723
Originally Posted by Elixir
I don't know whether or not I should feel sorry for you, that was exactly 90 spoilers to read that.
Or, you know, maybe he just pressed the quote button.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 12:30 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 01:30 AM #157 of 723
Originally Posted by Elixir
that was exactly 90 spoilers to read that.
Do it again, and you're getting a formal warning.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 12:35 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 01:35 AM #158 of 723
Which I did. But hey you pressed control v 90 times, I'd feel dirty if you gave me your pity.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 01:17 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 01:17 PM #159 of 723
Originally Posted by Elixir
Or you could just fix it, because nobody needs to hide a spoiler within a spoiler ever.
But you don't need to bring pure stupidity here with the intentions of being an ass. Fair trade. Lets have a truce.

New Twilight topic!

Boss Fights

They mentioned making things more difficult. Do you think they'll just "have more HP" or require difficult attack combos or what? I'm intrigued to know what they're doing to make these more of a challenge.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 02:19 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 01:19 PM #160 of 723
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Boss Fights

They mentioned making things more difficult. Do you think they'll just "have more HP" or require difficult attack combos or what? I'm intrigued to know what they're doing to make these more of a challenge.
In my ideal world, the game makers sat down and played Shadow of the Colossus, and said to themselves "Hey, we should do something like this."

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 02:54 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 10:54 PM #161 of 723
I just want something to live up to the term "Zelda boss fight". I really enjoyed the bosses in Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker (GASP). Long as they don't make them too short or easy, I'll be perfectly pleased.

Zelda games just need a fascinating world you want to explore and inventive ways to explore them (and I don't just mean travel).

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 03:13 PM #162 of 723
The forest dungeon boss, the one boss they showed, looks very complicated for a first boss, and pretty fun. I suspect they'll only get harder and more complex (like any Zelda game), so I think I'll be satisfied.
I love Zelda boss fights, and have no doubts that they'll be good in this game.

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 04:19 PM #163 of 723
harder boss fights:

1. they must do more damage. the bosses in wind waker did minimal damage with huge attacks, hell, i could fall 10034209822 meters in wind waker and only have a quarter of a heart taken off. i'm pretty sure i beat ganondorf with like 5 or 6 hearts, max as well- too weak.

2. smarter bosses. they need not to just go on a certain pattern, but try to guard the pattern when players get smart enough to kill them.

3. bosses that require skill. most bosses just require you to figure out how to kill them, but i want a boss that, when you figure out how to kill it, makes you go "oh shit, that's hard!" something that you can't lock on to or something that is really hard to hit.

4. bosses should scale with link. in wind waker, all bosses at the end were piss-easy since they all were fought when you had a weaker sword.

5. read if you've beaten wind waker-

Spoiler:
better final bosses. the final boss in ww was a setup basically-- it was too easy. you wait until zelda hits him, then hit him with your sword, etc, then you wait eventually until you can parry and it kills him for you. too easy. they should have made you work for it.


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Old Mar 17, 2006, 05:25 PM Local time: Mar 17, 2006, 05:25 PM #164 of 723
As long as there is no Water Temple.

Am I rite? Huh? Huh?!

I enjoyed the WW bosses. As long as the dungens aren't linear, I'm happy (eg: boomerang to open something in a temple to get the hookshot to get to the boss, etc.)

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Old Mar 17, 2006, 08:20 PM #165 of 723
In Wind Waker, I like to think of Puppet Ganon as the final boss, because that boss actually IS difficult. The real final boss was pretty easy, but that fight was just so damn cool it makes up for it. I view the real final boss as part of the ending sequence after beating Puppet Ganon, and it's like the coolest ending to a game ever.

Sorta like Ganondorf/Ganon in OoT. I still think of Ganondorf as the final boss, and Ganon and the escape as the denoument of sorts- it's just the part of the story that comes after the climax.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 17, 2006, 11:44 PM Local time: Mar 18, 2006, 03:44 PM #166 of 723
IMO OoT's bosses were extremely well done. But I would like to see more outright fights (fights against staflos etc, Majora's Mask forest boss). Puppet Ganon was cool. WW bosses were forced, I reckon.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 12:48 AM #167 of 723
yeah i pretty much hated the earth temple boss.

"oh noes a huge .. ghost.."

the music didn't help, making it sound like a demented merry-go-round.

though i enjoyed the music for the wind temple boss a lot, as well as the boss itself.

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Old Mar 18, 2006, 01:24 AM #168 of 723
I loved Wind Waker bosses, and I especially loved the ghost boss.
Though it was obviously inspired by Luigi's Mansion. I loved the style of the poes in Wind Waker.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 05:52 PM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 04:52 PM #169 of 723
Originally Posted by chaofan
(fights against staflos etc, Majora's Mask forest boss).
The fight against Odolwa was quite possibly my favourite boss battle in any game. That or the virus boss in OoT (Baronaid or something). Those bosses are the kind that even after you figure out how to beat them, it's hard to do. They always keep me on my toes, even today. But a boss like the WW forest boss? please, Worst boss battle, ever.

I'm holding out for really epic boss battles. Boss battles that will keep me occupied for half and hour straight (k, maybe that's a little much) Bosses that change their strategy after a while so i have to refine mine. I know this is just wishful thinking, but i can always dream.

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Old Mar 19, 2006, 06:38 PM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 04:38 PM #170 of 723
Baronade is definitely my favorite part of the entire game. That battle... it's just wow. It just flows so smoothly. It's definitely on my top 5 list of greatest boss battles EVER.

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 12:59 AM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 10:59 PM #171 of 723
I liked the Majoras Incarnation, the second form of Majora's Mask. I loved how it would run around madly and make chicken noises while doing what kinda looked like russian dancing.

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 01:12 AM Local time: Mar 19, 2006, 11:12 PM #172 of 723
After hearing that, I must now pull out my N64 and holographic Majora's Mask cart, load up the old save file, and beat the game again. Oh, and pray that it doesn't overheat and freeze on the Kafei/Anju quest, where you've done EVERYTHING BUT WAITING FOR KAFEI TO SHOW UP AT THE END!

That pissed me off so much... I had like maybe 3 hours to go game time before he showed up, and all of a sudden, the game plays a sound effect of birds flying off. I'm like "WTF?" and all of a sudden, part of the warp animation shows up on the screen and the game freezes. IT WAS THE LAST FUCKING MASK BEFORE I HAD EVERY ONE TOO!

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 04:19 AM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 08:19 PM #173 of 723
Originally Posted by Monkey King
In my ideal world, the game makers sat down and played Shadow of the Colossus, and said to themselves "Hey, we should do something like this."
Try here. Start of paragraph 32.

Wishful thinking, maybe...

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 02:13 PM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 01:13 PM #174 of 723
Originally Posted by Lukage
As long as there is no Water Temple.

Am I rite? Huh? Huh?!
Wrong. Sorry, but the OoT may be long and tideous, but it's classic none the less, and MM's water temple was perfect for me. Especially the swimming in the Zora form.

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Old Mar 20, 2006, 02:20 PM Local time: Mar 20, 2006, 02:20 PM #175 of 723
Originally Posted by Helloween
Wrong. Sorry, but the OoT may be long and tideous, but it's classic none the less, and MM's water temple was perfect for me. Especially the swimming in the Zora form.
That temple took me forever and then some. I think I saw the Gamecube release of Wind Waker finished before that temple. It was indeed a challenge, but god...damn.

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