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Slayer X · May 19, 2007, 12:28 PM

Well LOTR all you had to do is rush the opponents with hordes of men hence why that game worket. C&C3 kind of works, the experiance is slowed down due to the inpercise controls. Sure it works, but not too well for thoes who use all the advanced techniques and quick keys.

Seeing how StarCraft is bigger then both thoes games, I could just see the outcry from fans everywhere if SC2 came to a console that didn't have at least K&M support. If it came to consoles at all that is. Lastly unlike EA, Blizzard isn't fluent in console archetecture, so the likeliness of it hitting consoles at all is even slimmer.

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Lord Jaroh · Local time: May 19, 2007, 01:15 PM

I don't think I've ever been happier being proved wrong! Hopefully the quality of the game will hold up to the original.

Maybe my dreams of a "true" Diablo III will finally come true...

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Slayer X · May 19, 2007, 01:19 PM

Well Diablo 2 launched two years after StarCraft 1 so hopefully we'll see a Diablo 3, 2-3 years after StarCraft 2. Or at least we can always dream of hoping.

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Dark Nation · Local time: May 19, 2007, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Also they don't fuck with shit that ain't broke.

You don't know how relieved I was after I saw the gameplay footage and screenshots. In the back of my mind, I was afraid they were going to pull a C&C: Generals on us. Thankfully that does not seem to be the case.

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Guru · Local time: May 19, 2007, 02:18 PM

I wouldn't expect any major graphic overhauls from what we see now. Mostly what they're going to work out during the alpha and beta stages are game balance more than anything, since that's the most important aspect of a strategy title.

They've been working on SC2 since WC3:TFT was released, so they've already had about 3 years to come up with the graphics we see now. And if you've learned anything about Blizzard over the years, it should be that their art department isn't keen on redesigning their graphics.

To be honest, they're pretty cool. I like them.

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Kimchi · May 19, 2007, 02:20 PM

I hope they don't shut downStarcraft after starcraft2 comes out

Originally Posted by ign

As popular as StarCraft was on these shores, it doesn't come close to the enthusiasm the game still enjoys in Asia, where televised, professional matches are held regularly. Blizzard has an event coming up in Korea where they are expected to make a large announcement, so it could very well be that the company has chosen the area where StarCraft is the most popular to announce its sequel.

Once that happens say bye bye to pros.

Lol I hope it doesn't kill all of those animation-timing techniques that were on the first one =.=

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Yggdrasil · Local time: May 19, 2007, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by NaYa NuhYa

I hope they don't shut downStarcraft after starcraft2 comes out

Originally Posted by Starcraft 2 FAQ section

Will we still be able to play the original StarCraft on Battle.net after StarCraft II is released?

Yes, you will.

So if Starcraft 2 turns out to be the kinda game Warcraft 3 was for the warcraft RTS franchise, at least you have a fallback.

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Auditor · 03:20 PM

Hot damn..the only game that will make me upgrade my PC.
And I hope it can surpass the original (in terms of gameplay), since none of the original members/developers are left.

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Yggdrasil · Local time: May 19, 2007, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Auditor

Hot damn..the only game that will make me upgrade my PC.
And I hope it can surpass the original, since none of the original members/developers are left.

I wouldn't say 'none' of its original developers are left. If I remember correctly the majority of people who left blizzard were the folks behind Diablo. Who are now working under Flagship Studios and working on ~~Diablo3~~ Hellgate London.

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orion_mk3 · May 19, 2007, 04:34 PM

Everything I hoped for and more. I can see their strategy now: simple, effective, devastating.

2008 - Startcraft 2 RTS

2010 - Starcraft 2 RTS expansion where things end badly for the heroes.

2012 - Universe of Starcraft MMORPG

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Dopefish · May 19, 2007, 05:26 PM

I think I'll get this. Looks like it will be a fantastic game.

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nazpyro · Local time: May 19, 2007, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Auditor

Hot damn..the only game that will make me upgrade my PC.

Truth-ing this. For the first time in almost 6 years, I want a gaming rig again. =p

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Monkey King · Local time: May 19, 2007, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Guru

I wouldn't expect any major graphic overhauls from what we see now. Mostly what they're going to work out during the alpha and beta stages are game balance more than anything, since that's the most important aspect of a strategy title.

These aren't mutually exclusive. The programming team is separate from the art team, so while they're designing the rest of the game and tweaking unit balance, the art team can go right on messing with the graphics independently of everyone else.

Unless of course the art team is occupied with the task of finishing the art for all the units we didn't see in the initial teasers, which is entirely possible. Still, when the game is inevitibly delayed, that'll give the artists more time to tweak things.

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Dark Nation · Local time: May 19, 2007, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Monkey King

These aren't mutually exclusive. The programming team is separate from the art team, so while they're designing the rest of the game and tweaking unit balance, the art team can go right on messing with the graphics independently of everyone else.

I can't say with any reliable area of certainty, but in MOST 3D Applications, the skin & the general build of a character can be swapped out for something else, as long as its structurally near the same.

So for example, if I have a fighter pilot, a human, bipid, 2 legs, 2 arms, head, etc., I can swap the 3D Model of the pilot and replace with it the model & skin of say, a jedi from Star Wars. Since they have the same basic skeleton underneath, all that would likely be required is to adjust the areas of influence in the lightsaber and the Robes. This is what I got at least from 3Ds Max and the way Blizzard maps their characters is probably not as exact or as close to that as it might seem. Still, given that the protoss and terran units are generally bipeds and walk up right, it wouldn't be too hard to swap out the models for something different in the future, say a graphical change from somewhat-cartoony to a more gritty & dirty appearance.

The Zerg however are a different story and since I have no experience in non-human modelling I can't really comment on how they would change up the units for those.

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pompadork · May 19, 2007, 10:04 PM

There's literally nothing dissapointing about it so far.

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Yggdrasil · Local time: May 19, 2007, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Nation

Still, given that the protoss and terran units are generally bipeds and walk up right, it wouldn't be too hard to swap out the models for something different in the future, say a graphical change from somewhat-cartoony to a more gritty & dirty appearance.

Given that the last 3 games Blizzard has made (Warcraft 3 and its expansion and World of Warcraft) have all had this cartoon like appearance I'd have to say that the chances of Blizzard going back and all of a sudden changing the style to a more realistic appearance is small.

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Solis · Local time: May 19, 2007, 10:14 PM

Well, the good news about the somewhat cartoony graphics is that they largely just seem to be because of the color palletes and shades rather than entirely because of the models themselves (although some of the terran designs seem pretty oddly shaped). With a few small tweaks to contrast and saturation/color, the game looks a bit more similar to the style in the original Starcraft, for example:

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I was speaking idiomatically.

Slayer X · May 19, 2007, 10:19 PM

WoW, that picture modification is PRO and definatly proves your point. Either way though it's StarCraft 2 and for all it matters it could all in in wire-frame and I'd still be excited just because the first one was that damn good. Luckly for me however this artistic look to it plays in my favor, so I don't really have any complaints.

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PiccoloNamek · Local time: May 19, 2007, 08:46 PM

All he did was mess around in the Hue/Saturation dialogue...

Anyway, the graphics really don't bother me. What I really care about is the gameplay balance, especially with the Protoss getting so many new and powerful units. Why them, anyway? I never did like the Protoss...

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Slayer X · May 19, 2007, 10:57 PM

Ummm... if you've been watching the videos on gametrailers.com the Terrans have recieved a lot of new stuff too.

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Dark Nation · Local time: May 19, 2007, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Yggdrasil

Given that the last 3 games Blizzard has made (Warcraft 3 and its expansion and World of Warcraft) have all had this cartoon like appearance I'd have to say that the chances of Blizzard going back and all of a sudden changing the style to a more realistic appearance is small.

Well, I was talking more on a "IF THIS HAPPENED" rather then what they Should/Would do.

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PiccoloNamek · 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Slayer X

Ummm... if you've been watching the videos on gametrailers.com the Terrans have recieved a lot of new stuff too.

Really? I've seen all of the trailers and watched all of the gameplay movies and the only thing I've seen for the Terrans are the jet pack guys.

There must be another that I haven't watched yet.

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Slayer X · May 19, 2007, 11:12 PM

I'm affraid that I'm going to have to apologize for my abruptness. My friend told me that there were a lot of new stuff for the terrans on the gametrailers videos, I've just watched them myself and it's more Protoss stuff, lol ^^;

So I'm going to have to take back what I said earlier. However there's lots of time yet and they'll probably just focus on one race at a time in the unveiling of all their shinney new features.

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Gechmir · Local time: May 19, 2007, 11:18 PM

I fucking KNEW it'd be a Starcraft sequel. A Starcraft MMO would've been fucking crazy, as WoW is still fresh and strong.

Can't wait to see how this'll look :3

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Yggdrasil · 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Nation

Well, I was talking more on a "IF THIS HAPPENED" rather then what they Should/Would do.

My comment wasn't pointed at you, I was just saying that in my point of view a dramatic shift from its current graphics to a more gritty and real looking set would be improbable given Blizzard's recent works.

Originally Posted by BigHairyFeet

Ygg, there's higher rez shots you can use for your sig on the SC2.com website (unless that IS the higher rez)?

I culled that screenshot off the video link from sc2.com, it isn't from the wallpapers section nor the artwork section. However after taking the screenshot I did have to compress it. But if you do have a better looking version of that shot in the video I'd be glad to have it.

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