Density of Registered Sex Offenders

Pretty much combining thoughts between:

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I DO NOT advocate rapists or pedophiles, I actually hate them and wish they would die. But in the end, they're just like us. Human. You can argue semantics if you really want to. But in the end, we're all guilty of something.

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But if there was an anti-theft vigilante, you'd be skrew'd.

The whole issue of pedophiles is something that bothers me, as a friend argued with me that they deserve to die, but she does not, because even though she is guilty of crimes, she's not a pedophile.

People feel that sexual crimes deserve harsher penalties than theft. Why? I dunno, I imagine most people feel getting raped by a previously convicted sex offender that you didn't know lived next door is a little bit worse than having your stereo stolen by the guy across the street.

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Originally Posted by Windsong

I remember reading an article last month where an Arizona student was arrested for downloading 10 cp photos and was sentenced to prison AND had to register as an offender! For looking at pictures!
Don't know if he appealed or not..

Be careful what you download in the U.S.

Remember what curiosity did to the cat.

You're upset because this person was arrested for downloading child porn?! These pictures are tagged in a way that lets the Feds know someone downloads them because child porn is ILLEGAL.

He has no grounds for an appeal--or for sympathy, for that matter.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Well hey, let's say he was on 4chan's /b/ and some asshole posts child porn. Guy happens to be from Arizona. Is it fair that he should go to jail b/c some asshole in New Guinea or whatever posts some pictures and a thumnail of it goes into his cash? You go to jail b/c anonymous is a pedo asshole and you happened to live in Arizona? That's fair?

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Acer--he clicked "save." There's a difference, you know.

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver

Pretty much combining thoughts between:

People feel that sexual crimes deserve harsher penalties than theft. Why? I dunno, I imagine most people feel getting raped by a previously convicted sex offender that you didn't know lived next door is a little bit worse than having your stereo stolen by the guy across the street.

To be honest, I don't know how many sex offenders repeat their offenses, even though it's just a hypothetical situation.

When did I say that they do not deserve harsh(er) penalties? I just said that someone doesn't NEED to die solely based on a crime. Before you point out serial killers, serial rapists, and serial pedophiles... I just have to say, SERIAL. It means they're prone to repeat it. As I stated before, (I believe or was it in chat?) there was a house with two sex offenders living together, who had not repeat offended in years (or at all, it was a one time thing), and they both lived together and helped each other out. Some dude got a hold of Sex Registry information, went to their house, and shot them. They were not repeat offenders.

I am of the opinion that we have no real rights to say who can live and who can die. I know that doesn't jive well with the current government and the current laws, but that is my belief. I know, I act like and come off like everyone should die, but I do not hold that belief.

My friend said that pedophiles need to die as if she was judge, jury, and executioner. They ARE human too. I mean, I'd hate it if someone was like "You did this. You deserve to die."

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

Well hey, let's say he was on 4chan's /b/ and some asshole posts child porn. Guy happens to be from Arizona. Is it fair that he should go to jail b/c some asshole in New Guinea or whatever posts some pictures and a thumnail of it goes into his cash? You go to jail b/c anonymous is a pedo asshole and you happened to live in Arizona? That's fair?

I imagine the feds have become familiar with places that tend to have those sorts of things spammed on them even though they're illegal and they probably won't hold it against the people who most likely viewed the image without the intent to.

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Actually, I was curious, and tried to look at how likely someone is to commit another sexual-based offense.

Originally Posted by http://www.csom.org/pubs/recidsexof.html

* Incest offenders ranged between 4 and 10 percent.
* Rapists ranged between 7 and 35 percent.
* Child molesters with female victims ranged between 10 and 29 percent.
* Child molesters with male victims ranged between 13 and 40 percent.
* Exhibitionists ranged between 41 and 71 percent.

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Several studies support the hypothesis that sexual offense recidivism rates are underreported. Marshall and Barbaree (1990) compared official records of a sample of sex offenders with "unofficial" sources of data. They found that the number of subsequent sex offenses revealed through unofficial sources was 2.4 times higher than the number that was recorded in official reports.

And on and on with more junk. Not really posting that aimed at you rit, just posting it for general information for people reading the thread.

Also, I imagine that guy that went and killed the two sex offenders could have just looked in court records for a trial involving a sex offender, and used any of the internet lookup services to find out where they were currently living and done the same thing.

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Originally Posted by RacinReaver

Also, I imagine that guy that went and killed the two sex offenders could have just looked in court records for a trial involving a sex offender, and used any of the internet lookup services to find out where they were currently living and done the same thing.

Actually, you're quite right about that one. I forgot that court records are actually public. The reason why it got so much attention though, was because he used the Sex Offender Registry.

I actually feel bad for the two guys who were killed, since they tried to get on with their lives and tried living a normal life with each others support.

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Originally Posted by Devoxycontin

What sucks is that guy didn't even provide a link to this story and I can't find it anywhere.

I did a check, and the only thing I could find was about Morton Berger--a former high school TEACHER with 20 cp pictures.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/27/wa...rssnyt&emc=rss

He was sentenced for 200 years.....

(and he is from Arizona)

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The jury I was on a few years ago convicted a man of child molestation and child pornography. The judge came in after the trial and basically told us that the sentence given to the defendant would probably put him in jail for the rest of his life (he was in his 50s if I remember). I think someone asked which one was the harsher punishment and he said either one would be too big for him to ever get out alive.

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Originally Posted by Devoxycontin

10 CP photos Acer. Also who browses /b/ at school.

I have. Right in front of lab monitors, too.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

A friend of mine, who works at Fascinations (an adult store in the US), says that, if you steal from the store, you are labeled a sex offender, and can be arrested if you try and enter the store again. (Among other fun things)

I don't know if the law has different levels of severity of sexual offenses, but in society's eyes, they're all labeled the same.

I dunno; it's terrifying to think that there's people who were found guilty for these crimes but, at the same time, it doesn't seem fair to group everyone under "child-molester/rapist/socially-indept" or whatever.

Just throwing out a questions here, if anyone's able to answer it: are sexual offenses different for every state in the US?

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Originally Posted by Reznor

To be honest, I don't know how many sex offenders repeat their offenses, even though it's just a hypothetical situation.

I'd always heard in that past that the recidivism rate was pretty high among rapists, but a quick bit of poking around seems to mostly mirror what I found in this document. Namely, that sex offenders actually aren't very likely to commit another sex crime.

As a counter point, it's also worth noting that rapes frequently go unreported. Recidivism among such sex offenders is probably reported as being a lot lower than it actually is. How much its being underreported, I couldn't say.

Still, there's a lingering and unfair sentiment that once you've committed a given crime, you're destined to do it again. On top of that, people have a pretty warped view of what the justice system is for. Rehabilitation is the most ideal goal, but people primarily want revenge. They don't want that pedophile to undergo counseling and learn to control his urges so as to safely re-enter society, they want him to fucking DIE because he's obviously not a human being, just a child-molesting monster.

The more I think about it, the more I dislike the whole idea of a sex offender registry. Essentially, it's presuming guilt before it's been proven, fueled by anecdotal superstitions.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well, it's not the therapy system, it's the justice system.

Rehabilitation is part of it but, in the case of child sex abusers, you're right at least from my standpoint. I don't give a fuck if these people rehabilitate, I don't ever want them walking the streets again. And if they do walk the streets, I sure as fuck don't want to live next to them if I have children. Rights of people with priors or not, my kids would be the absolute most important thing and I want to know if I have any reason to be more cautious than normal.

Originally Posted by Acacia

Just throwing out a questions here, if anyone's able to answer it: are sexual offenses different for every state in the US?

They aren't all different, but each state may set its own laws.

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Monkey King, I had actually found a pretty source I posted above in some quotes. It's a lot more thorough than I put in my post and the page was a bit massive for me to feel like sitting through at the time. It's probably a good read if you're interested in the subject, though.

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Originally Posted by Monkey King

I'd always heard in that past that the recidivism rate was pretty high among rapists, but a quick bit of poking around seems to mostly mirror what I found in this document. Namely, that sex offenders actually aren't very likely to commit another sex crime.

As a counter point, it's also worth noting that rapes frequently go unreported. Recidivism among such sex offenders is probably reported as being a lot lower than it actually is. How much its being underreported, I couldn't say.

Still, there's a lingering and unfair sentiment that once you've committed a given crime, you're destined to do it again. On top of that, people have a pretty warped view of what the justice system is for. Rehabilitation is the most ideal goal, but people primarily want revenge. They don't want that pedophile to undergo counseling and learn to control his urges so as to safely re-enter society, they want him to fucking DIE because he's obviously not a human being, just a child-molesting monster.

The more I think about it, the more I dislike the whole idea of a sex offender registry. Essentially, it's presuming guilt before it's been proven, fueled by anecdotal superstitions.

Well, also, apparently almost half of rape claims are falsified, so it kind of evens out with the ones that go unreported.

I know A LOT of girls who have cried rape. It's pretty pathetic, to be honest.

It's a lot higher than you would think.

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I can't seem to find any sort of statistics on falsified rape claims or the like. =\

I imagine that women are less willing to report a rape than willing to because of all the social stigma that's still attached to it.

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