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"Interesting?" I'm not looking forward to it at all.
I can't even sit through flash forwards, let alone knowing that six of the Losties are going to end up on the mainland. I'm glad that they finally decided to focus on Sayid, though. A little attention paid to the original characters is NICE. I'm sick of being introduced to insignificant, inconsequential characters. (After the whole Nikki and Paolo thing, I don't trust those motherfuckers at all.) I was really upset when I saw Ben was pulling the strings on that whole mission in Berlin. I'm convinced that this new "freighter" group is what's left of Dharma. (As evidenced by Charlotte in the desert with a polar bear corpse and a Dharma collar). Why I think I am so resentful to this new season is due to the fact that they've made me sit and wait 8 months, and I feel like the whole plot line is changing. It's moving fast, which is normally fine by me? But I am TERRIFIED they're going to overlook all the things that they've set up in the past and leave them unanswered. Fourth season, and we still don't know what that goddamn smoke monster is. I mean jesus christ, can we get any more ridiculous? I'm starting to question why I bother watching at all. I know they're going to break my heart. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
I too was relieved when Locke said something about the smoke monster. $20 says they're going to explain it away by saying it's Jacob's spirit or some shit. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Jesus CHRIST, Sprout. That is one goddamned far-fetched theory.
But like you said....it makes sense. Far-fetched and insane, but really, a pretty good explanation, if you like that sort of thing. I kind of hope that's how it goes. It's totally true about The Stand/Lost have these insane parallels - you can see it as early as season 1. I hope there's some truth to that theory. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
O my, the first episode this season I loved!
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Next week looks doubly good. I love Desmond. How ya doing, buddy? |
I was speaking idiomatically. |
So I missed it last night, but I watched it this afternoon. Slow work day lols.
I agree with everyone - I LOVED this episode. I love the expansion on Farraday. I love that they got straight to the story with the freighter crew. I love how they dealt with Des and the time-travel. BUT: Spoiler:
I am SO glad that they didn't divide that shit up into multiple episodes. <3 Also, I guess Ben's inside man knows that Sayid and Desmond are on the boat~ What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
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I could have done without all the stupid drama about Jin and Sun and their stupid baby. Spoiler:
I liked the idea that the people on the freighter all seem to be going to hell. That's pretty interesting. I liked that bit where whats-her-name threw herself overboard with chains and no one gave a shit. I was lolling. FELIPE NO |
Radez, we were LOOKING for the date on the headstone and I couldn't remember the day of the crash! 2003 sometime, yes. But I figured on the island, a year hasn't passed yet, so I was unsure!
I am surprised you're enjoying it Jazz. Maybe it's just my stupid high expectations. I feel like I'm being on the wild goose chase with none of the older questions being answered (either explained away by something entirely frivolous or outright ignored). I'm really bitter about all that, what with the opening up new doors while not closing old ones. My friends tell me I need to get over it. The episodes with Jin and Sun always seem like fillers to me - just something to occupy us for some time. I want more focus on Locke and his camp, less focus on stupid shit like O NO BABIES. I think I am just really bitter that people are leaving the island in general. I never wanted to see anyone actually get off the island. I forsee a showdown between Whitmore and Ben. And if that's how this all ends, I will goddamned pissed. I want to know more about Jacob and who he is. I want to know more about the history of the island. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Well. Last night's episode was certainly a pisser.
I loved the episode until they Spoiler:
Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Why is everyone so pleased where this show is going. Seriously. Ever week, I get more and more angry.
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I will, however, continue to watch it despite all my negativity. Why? Because I feel emotionally connected to the survivors and I want to see what happens. I am sure to be disappointed, though. I think they bit off way more than they can chew here. They should have stuck to simple intrigue. Now, we're lost in a war between two retarded men (Whitmore and Linus), who seemingly pit these pawns against each other. This is not why I loved the show. I don't care about a Charlie's Angels scenario, I don't care who the good guy or bad guy is - I PLAIN DON'T CARE. Every OTHER thing I watch usually boils down to this typical duality, and I had hopes that Lost would be about something more. Poor Sayid. I sympathize with him so hard. LAST GRIPE, I SWEAR: I am aware that this latest gap in episodes (for the sixteen episode season) was due to the writer's strike, but if they keep trying to reel people in and then give them breaks which are so long and with a show going rapidly downhill, I suspect they're going to lose a lot of their fan basis. So I am a bitter, bitter person. Shoot me. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Who the fuck ELSE has changed on the island? I think the point is that people still fall victim to their traits they had on the mainland - while being offered a chance to change, they often revert right back to who they are. Jack hasn't changed, Kate hasn't changed, Jin and Sun haven't changed - NO ONE has been able to free themselves from their own past. And for some reason, Sawyer is now a loveable and caring guy? What kind of drugs are you ON? I think your excuse is a vehement excuse for the show and it's slacking lately. Even if you WERE right, they'd have had to address this "change" in Sawyer. If anything, he should go the opposite way (and NOT call people "sweetheart") due to his murdering Locke's dad. They made it very clear to the audience that this was NOT a positive thing for Sawyer. Are you telling me they're writing this event off, and changing his attitude in the wind without substantiation? This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Not only that, but I would resist the change of Sawyer. Maybe I am presently. I don't want another nicey-nice on the goddamn island. We have Jack for that. If you're right, Ben must be sucking up all the evil on the island - it would make sense. ^_^
While I don't want static characters, I would appreciate reasons for dynamic characters. You can't expect me to bond with Sawyer, Kate, Jack, Locke, or anyone else unless I understand who they are and why they have become that way. I no longer sympathize with many of the characters. I'm considering not watching because of it. The characters were established in season and and parts of season 2, I understand. Maybe I am demanding too much of what I think is the best TV show I've ever seen.
Hurley is just as batty as he was when they got there and Des is changed how? How ya doing, buddy? |
Last night's ep:
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At the same time, I should probably add some POSITIVE to this episode before I get jumped on by the fans: Spoiler:
I was speaking idiomatically. |
Though apart from the pilot in the first episode, I don't know who the smoke monster HAS actually killed. I may just have a really shitty memory, though. O. Eko. Yea. I think that was actually Jacob, though. I like how every single tail survivor is dead, except for Bernard. What a WASTE of Season 2. SIGH. Although it was nice to see Ana Lucia go. She deserved it. ugh.
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What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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I'm really kind of upset at the death of Rousseau myself. Seriously. She has been present since the beginning, and what a horrific way for her to go down with almost no treatment whatsoever. She was one of my favorite characters.
How ya doing, buddy? |
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What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Locke was visited by his mother towards the end on his stay on the mainland - maybe 10 years before the crash. Ben's mother died giving birth to him. While the Island is responsible for many things, I'm not sure I'd chock this up to anything of substance. I had to think about it for a second. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
We were figuring time is faster on the island, but it turns out that when Dan had those missiles sent when they first arrived on the island, they were delayed by way too much time. But maybe that has to do with the actual travel route. It seems they have to follow Dan's exact coordinates in order to get in and out of the island's grasp. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
So it looks like we'll all get to see the season finale at the meet.
The season finale. SEASON. FINALE. I'm going to choke a bitch. That was both literally and figuratively the shortest season ever. I'm upset about it. But I'm always upset about something. It was such a great episode tonight, and they have to go and do that shit. Spoiler:
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
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I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
We've all been discussing Sawyer's death as well. We (my friends and I) all figure they won't kill him off until near the end of the show. Like sprout said, he's served his purpose. It's a sad truth, but I am almost positive he won't last until the end of the show.
Des, on the other hand, has business with Ben I imagine. ESPECIALLY after Ben threatened to kill Penny. That's worth keeping him around, if you ask me. But considering Des is down in the boiler room with the C4..... i dunno.... I was speaking idiomatically. |
Doesn't Season 5 start on January 21st?
I'm so psyched, though I am kind of nervous as to where they're going to take things. ESPECIALLY now that there's a clear division between the camps of the island. I just hope there's nothing stupid to come. I HAVE HOPE. I'm also a little bitter about Jack and Sawyer being clear front men on the poster. KATE, YOU WHORE. (Love Locke's stance though. "I'M THE BADASS HERE, GUYS. WHERE'S JACOB. CAN'T FIND HIM WITHOUT FATTIE") How ya doing, buddy? |
It's really hard to follow all that. It's been too long since I saw the previous season. Perhaps another viewing is in order.
Or maybe I'll just ignore it. I'm losing faith. ;_; FELIPE NO |
It was odd having the show back.
I found almost everything entirely too predictable. Chris and I were calling each and every shot as they came without having read any spoilers. I feel very little connection to them all, and I kept seeing stupid shit which seemed to throw a monkey wrench in everything. O NO, HURLEY IS ACCUSED OF MURDER? Whatever shall we DO? And then the Island skipping like a record in time, how STUPID and ANNOYING. Ugh. The only good that came out of that was Locke's expression when shit kept skipping. I LOVED the random appearance of Ana Lucia, though. I was giddy with excitement, just because it made a real connection in my head to how things were. Dead people everywhere, Hurley is awesome, so on. I felt like the premiere kind of dragged and made little use of a 2 hour spot. O WELL. Farraday was once cool in my book. Now he seems like this textbook lunatic physicist and I couldn't give a damn about him and his stupid red-headed girlfriend. I want to see more development in the characters, and not just rushing forward on the mainland. SAYID GETS DARTED, HURLEY DRAGS HIM ACROSS EVERYWHERE. Let's throw some BEN in for good measure! I don't know. I guess my passion for the show is dwindling. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
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Richard is a "native." Not one of the "others." I'm not sure why anyone who isn't a survivor is called an Other, but there's clearly different camps of Others. (Dharma, which Ben is technically one of, but killed everyone off) and the people who fought Dharma's presence - the Natives. Clearly, people were calling Juliet an "Other," but she was just hired on. I dislike the lack of distinction. Meanwhile, I felt like I learned nothing last night save for the fact that Widmore was in his youth on the island and worked under Richard. Which confused me a bit, since Ben also worked under Richard. So why would Ben and Charles go up against each other. Ugh, I knew it would boil down to this. I shouldn't be surprised. Jam it back in, in the dark. |