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Sound Card = 40% more FPS!!!
So if I run at 50FPS now, this sound card will boost it to 70. Gimmie a break. I call bullshit. How ya doing, buddy? |
But... It's XTREME! ;__________;
Yah, anyways, annoying marketing aside, I can't imagine the card can actually do that. I just bought a Audigy 2 ZS about a week ago, and it really doesnt help THAT much. Now, my Audigy doesnt have an xtreme core proccessor or whatever the heck, but the concept should be the same and I should see some sort of increase, which I don't. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Sound Blaster Live! 5.1
Got it like 2 years ago. $20. Works great and then some. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Actually, I have an X-Fi Platinum Card, and I have to say that it really has some impressive abilities.
I don't know about Battlefield 2, but it definitely could make great sound come from my mediocre speaker system. The X-Fi cards are definitely powerful, and could easily handle the most complex of music production programs that I threw at it. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I think it has something to do with the audio processing and whether or not it's CPU-dependent or not. So, assuming that one has a card that makes the CPU do some of the work versus one that does it on the audio card, the latter would get more FPS. But 40% more? It may be a powerful sound card, but that's still a load of bull.
In other news, I got my cheapo Catalina 7.1 card today along with 12 feet of optical cable so now the sound runs through my surround system rather than my listen-listen-we're-dying PC speakers. This setup coupled with DualView, BTW thanks Lukage, makes for some tasty computing. I was speaking idiomatically. The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
I think the keyword there is,
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
The X-Fi is a lot faster than integrated chips at processing EAX and other environmental audio stuff, so it's not much of a stretch to say that it could increase frame rates by 30% or more if you like that stuff. Of course, if you're using integrated sound, you probably don't have EAX enabled in games anyways.
The X-Fi does sound a lot better than the SB Live, though. How ya doing, buddy? |
Relic, the X-Fi is no FASTER than Onboard sound. It may be able to decode EAC and other codecs, but that's not faster. The only "speed" benefit relative to onboard is that your CPU doesn't have to decode your sound. But that's never intensive enough to give you a 40% FPS boost. That's a load of crap.
....just like Creative's Sound Cards. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Oh come off it. These are easily repeatable benchmarks. You take a machine with integrated sound (and video) benchmark it against a machine with a super-awesome-extreme standalone soundcard (and video), and there you have it. Huge FPS increase. ...What? Jam it back in, in the dark.
"The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
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but, the reality is, just about any sound card will take the load off the cpu, not just the x-fi. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
And it matters even less for a multi-core processor due to it's strengths in multi-tasking. Honestly, if you're not a heavy gamer, just get yourself a cheaper soundcard which often times sound just as good as Creative's often overpriced gamer-targeted products.
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Well if the game was somehow using software 5.1+ digital decoding for its sound (Doom 3 engine can do this for example) then I could easily see an increase of that much by moving that sound decoding to a hardware accelerator like the X-Fi. Unfortunately for Creative, most engines don't even offer software digital decoding.
I was speaking idiomatically. |
Even if there was no sound in most games today, I highly doubt framerates would jump by 40%. With most sound formats not even using 5% CPU usage on a 700MHz CPU (mine), it's very slim that any sound format drain 40% of the fps on any game.
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
That said, Creative is notorious for...uh, creative marketing, and the 40% figure is probably very optimistic, especially since most people who are gaming with onboard sound won't be using EAX effects. It's not as big of a stretch as you seem to think it is, though. FELIPE NO |
i've heard that the audigies are pretty bad for sound editing / music creation when compared to other companies' high-end stuff.
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
It's been stated for years that onboard video is shit and we already know it. Onboard video has no point ANYWHERE in this topic. This is comparing on-board audio performance to soundcard audio performance. Therefore, your made-up benchmark scenario FAILS. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
There's nowhere I can't reach. "Oh sirrah" -Hedonism Bot |
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I was speaking idiomatically. |
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FELIPE NO |
Using a card is obviously going to show some improvements because it takes a small load off the cpu. It probably wont have as much an impact on more powerfull machines but on slower machines it could show a big improvement.
However, this is all kind of moot anyways because as time goes by onboard audio is becoming just as good as any soundcard. With dual or more cores in cpus the load from onboard audio or software becomes insignificant. You no longer have to worry about that kind of thing because you finally have a cpu that can actually multitask and do all the work with ease. Most amazing jew boots |
Funny how this is my first post. Anyway...
If you guys read this article over here: http://www.soundblaster.com/products...gamingXram.asp You'll find out exactly why and how the X-Fi can boost your gaming FPS. Two models of the card, the Fatal1ty and the Elite Pro actually contain 64MB of onboard RAM (called XRAM). This XRAM is utilized by SPECIFIC games (right, this feature has to be specifically coded into the game, Battlefield 2 supports it, as does Quake 4, and probably a bunch of forthcoming games) to boost performance. Does anyone posting in this thread actually have an X-Fi? Jam it back in, in the dark. |
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