[DS] Universal DS Homebrew thread. Fucking cheapskates.

I haven't really got a clue about this stuff, so please bear with me.
I want to do simple emulation like NES, SNES and stuff like that (and perhaps try what that Mother 3 is all about).
Is that R4 enough? It's the only card I've really heard about, but then again, I haven't read this thread so I might've missed things.

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Skim through the thread. At least the 5 lastest pages. Is it that hard to do?

Anyway the R4 sucks donkey nuts. SNES emulation isn't that great. NES emulation is alright but could be better. If you want to play GBA games you need a slot 2 device. My recommendation as always is the Cyclo DS Evolution with a EZ 3-in-1 slot 2 device. Don't even try using these on the DSi right now until a proper solution is made. Have a nice day.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I will read through the thread later, but right now the olde english is distracting me greatly. Too many forsooths.

How ya doing, buddy?

Once again europe appears to have been screwed over, I just tried searching further information on flash cards for a friend and it seems all UK based stores have removed their stock completly. Why the hate Nintendo? You're treating us like we invented piracy or something ;_;

FELIPE NO

One of my brother's ecommerce clients was a UK-based flashcart shop. He received an angry C&D letter and had all of his stock seized a few months back. Now he's on the verge of going out of business.

It's fucking impossible to find somewhere to buy a flashcart these days - hopefully by the time I pick up a DSi, the need for them will have disappeared completely, and we'll be able to load games from the SD slot...

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You know if you want to go and pirate games, that's your choice so have at you, but I really don't see how why you should expect people to make it easy for you? Do you go around complaining that people lock their front doors too, because if they just left them open it'd be so much easier to steal people's stuff?

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hurr durr equating piracy with stealing a physical object

hurr durr

verily, durr

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Actually I was just drawing a parallel to highlight the rather silly nature of the argument, but suit yourself. And since it isn't clear, I'm not passing judgement on the act, I'm saying the argument that people shouldn't be trying to make it harder for you to pirate stuff is stupid. They shouldn't strip away your rights to achieve that (hello DRM), but they shouldn't be expected to make it easy for you.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

That's fair enough, but pulling out the "WELL YOU MIGHT AS WELL ABSCOND WITH MISTER MIYAMOTO'S TELEVISION" analogy is just a teensy bit of a straw man. Besides, all DRM does is make scene kiddies all the more vocal in their piracy efforts, which in turn steps up DRM measures, which itself in turn encourages pirates, which...

The issue here is that although the devices in question can be used for piracy - oh, who am I kidding, everyone who owns a flashcart uses it for piracy - it's not their sole application, which is why people got away with manufacturing and selling them in the first place. Nintendo's attempts to stamp them out represents a weird kind of paranoid (albeit justifiable) double standard in that respect. It makes about as much sense as Sony raging against manufacturers of CD burners.

(okay, that was stupid and exaggerated as all hell, but I think I heard about something like that occurring in the days of chipped PS1s)

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Care to explaim Nintendo's "weird kind of paranoid (albeit justifiable) double standard" because I'm not following? When were Nintendo pirating stuff, did I miss that news story?

Thing is as weak as any analogy talking about physical theft is, it's a hundred times stronger an argument than the feeble crap people come out with to justify piracy to themselves. I've no great issue with it, but let's call a spade a spade shall we: you want something and either you don't have the means or inclination to pay for it. Fair enough, but don't try and act noble about it.

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Since I brought the topic up, I'd just like to reliterate I'm not mad about the fact they're countering selling flash cards. I'm annoyed that as is often the case people in the EU are some of the first to get singled out, as if we're the root of the problem when we're not.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by OP

Care to explaim Nintendo's "weird kind of paranoid (albeit justifiable) double standard" because I'm not following? When were Nintendo pirating stuff, did I miss that news story?

Sorry, I was a little vague. There were a few things I meant by that:

The fact that they're going after the resellers of slot-1 devices and not the manufacturers/wholesale vendors bugs me. The devices themselves are perfectly legal (as far as I know, anyway - I've not heard anything about them getting uppity about patent infringement or similar), and frankly, they're intervening at the wrong part of the supply chain. Shopowners are getting screwed over by this method of dealing with the issue, while the original sellers of the carts are still in business. The only flashcart whose manufacturers have been directly squashed is the R4, and they're apparently not pursuing action against the others for whatever reason. Maybe because they're not quite so synonymous with piracy. Hell, the packaging on the devices mentions nothing about piracy whatsoever - every slot-1 solution available now is marketed by both the manufacturers and the resellers as a "portable media solution", and touts AV/ebook capabilities as their only noteworthy features. Some of them don't even ship with the firmware necessary for loading ROMs. It's very crafty and skirts conveniently around the issue.

Also; that they're choosing to intervene so heavily in one of their biggest legit markets, and ignoring others that thrive on piracy alone is a little odd. While I was living in Chile there were at least two shops selling flashcarts within walking distance of my flat. I hear the situation's similar in eastern Europe and central Asia.

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Thing is as weak as any analogy talking about physical theft is, it's a hundred times stronger an argument than the feeble crap people come out with to justify piracy to themselves. I've no great issue with it, but let's call a spade a spade shall we: you want something and either you don't have the means or inclination to pay for it. Fair enough, but don't try and act noble about it.

There's nothing noble here - not in the least. I'm just an impoverished asshole and I like freebies. That's as far as my "justification" goes. The only time I ever even come close to defending the piracy issue is when it's equated with simple thievery.

Originally Posted by S_K

Since I brought the topic up, I'd just like to reliterate I'm not mad about the fact they're countering selling flash cards. I'm annoyed that as is often the case people in the EU are some of the first to get singled out, as if we're the root of the problem when we're not.

Yeah, this is just Europe getting buggered over again - this time in a slightly dodgy capacity. Count it as a personal grievance with no bearing on the argument at hand, but as I said above, they're demonising the wrong part of the world.

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Originally Posted by OmagnusPrime

Fair enough, but don't try and act noble about it.

I, Duke Keefe Maraudington III, take great offense to your dispute of my god given right and noble duty to convey the joys and woes of my business and celebrate the wondrous and righteous spectacle that they truly are.

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Hah, I just got a CycloDS from the UK a couple of days ago. Now the store has them marked as temporarily unavailable. Glad I made it in time to contribute to Nintendo going out of business, I guess.

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As much as you think you're "sticking it to the man," the DS still prints money and is still making them bigtime bucks.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

H-holy shit... you're right... why didn't I realise sooner?!

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yeah i mean it's totally only fair now

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Originally Posted by Vulpix

As much as you think you're "sticking it to the man," the DS still prints money and is still making them bigtime bucks.

I don't know anyone who uses "sticking it to the man" as their rationale behind piracy. The act doesn't create a negative cashflow, you cock.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Well it does mean that the sunk costs per unit are higher than if you'd bought a copy and piracy is a demotivating factor in future game development.

Just saying.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

What if I bought all my games but then gave them back to the local GameStop immediately under a myriad of disguises, got my money back or "store credit" and continued to use this "store credit" for new games to become returned games to be sold as used games and perhaps even used this "store credit" to buy these used games and then sold them as new games with the help of some saran wrap and a hair dryer thus making profit AND ON TOP OF THAT I STILL PIRATED THE GAME?



FELIPE NO

That just might show the Big N!

That is, if they sell through consignment...

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So apparently DS-X, the product I have been looking at for such needs as running back-ups, has been "abandoned" by it's makers since 2007.

So, uh, can I get some advice on the subject? I mostly just want to run back-ups. Also, I don't mind upgarding to a lite, but I'm not sure that's important...

Hey, thanks guys.

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Well I'm going to assume you've ruled out the Cyclo DS since if you've read even a single post at random in this thread there's at least an 80% chance it's a recommendation for the Cyclo DS, or someone asking what card to get, followed by a recommendation for the Cyclo DS.

So, I'm going to recommend this. Sure you can get that combo for less than half that price at DealExtreme, but it'll take you like 2 months to get it.

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I have a 2GB M3 Real if anyone wants it. Free! It's got Imagine Figure Skater on it and everything.

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To all who where involved in my previous post: thank you. My question was answered and I got the advice I needed, though only through my lazy posting did this occur. As proof of my sincerity I promise not to make another post here for at least a month.

Seriously, thank you and you're welcome.

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