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So nothing's really happening in Missouri.
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 12:55 AM Local time: Mar 3, 2006, 10:55 PM #1 of 49
I don't see any problem here. Wouldn't the world be a better place if we were all Christians?

Plus, it's Missouri. I bet there's more cows then christians there.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 01:38 AM Local time: Mar 3, 2006, 11:38 PM #2 of 49
Originally Posted by Bradylama
There's no reason to "officially" recognize Christianity as a majority religion. If there's a majority of Christians than Hindus, it's a matter of fact..
Sure there is. To establish Christianity as the official state religion and percescute the hethans.

Originally Posted by Bradylama
This is nothing but a bullshit "Christian Persecution" law implemented by paranoid reactionaries trying to make sure their kids can pray in schools and shit.
Every theocracy needs it's baby steps. And look at how wonderful theocratic countries like Iran are doing!

Originally Posted by Bradylama
"Guaranteeing the expression of the majority" is favoritism, and an establishment of religion by the government. Undeniably unconstitutional.

Anybody who would argue otherwise has no concept of either English, or Law.
The constitution is a contract. Contracts can be re-negociated at any time. Which is why we have the NSA domestic spying on Americans, The Patriot Act, and a history of presidents intervening in countries through so called "police actions" without a declaration of war. I could probably list more examples but really why bother.

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Old Mar 4, 2006, 01:48 AM Local time: Mar 3, 2006, 11:48 PM #3 of 49
Originally Posted by Bradylama
Those are either direct violations, or circumventions of Constitutional law. "Re-negotiating of a contract" would be proposing an ammendment that would give the NSA the powers to spy on us and yaddy yadda.
Then the law is a very subjective thing then isn't it? If the people that are supposed to make the laws, break the laws. Then is there any law at all?

Originally Posted by russ
I would like to see all documentation regarding how their statistical evidence that Christianity is, in fact, the majority religion in Missouri was gathered. Unless they release this information to the public, how are we to know if Christianity is truly the majority religion, rather than simply being assumed to be the majority religion?
A demographic study would easily prove those statistics. As to where you could find one as reference online... probably wikipedia would have that.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Mar 4, 2006, 02:01 AM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 12:01 AM #4 of 49
Originally Posted by Bradylama
Of course, it just means that certain people are above the law.
Smart man. Then if the powers that be want a theocracy, they'll have a theocracy. Despite whatever the constitution says.

Originally Posted by eks
Dunno. I'm pretty certain that it would be better if it contained fewer Christians, tho.
Don't say that if you're ever in Missouri. The cows will start a revolt like in the book Animal Farm. Or maybe that was pigs.... whatever.


Originally Posted by eks
If the Constitution is a contract, how come I can't go sign it, and, if I'm not allowed to sign it, do I have follow it?
You're bound by the contract as long as you're a citizen of the USA. You bought in to the program when you became one, likely when you were born.

But don't feel bad about being left out. In the good old days when the founding fathers were making it they left out a lot of people. Women, Native Americans, Blacks, Poor Whites, Poor Whites without any land, Asians, etc.

How ya doing, buddy?
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 02:24 AM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 12:24 AM #5 of 49
Originally Posted by BlueMikey
You can say that's not what is said in the Constitution, but the Supreme Court's interpretation disagrees with you. And whatever the Supreme Court interprets to be in the Constitution is what it really says.
Why bring the Supreme Court into this? The Supreme Court has contradicted itself many times throughout the history of this country.

Furthermore, in light of recent events that probably should've sparked a constitutional crisis the Supreme Court has been neatly avoided.... or taken out for a hunting trip in Wyoming with Dick Cheney to come to a understanding. Quite brave.

Originally Posted by Hachifusa

As for Missouri: I'm shocked that more people don't realize that this is a directly prohibited by the Bill of Rights, and how such an act can restrict the rights of its citizens, and how the theo-cons are pretty much attempting to run the show. Prettymuch.
Don't be suprised. Most dipshits can't name the five freedoms the first amendment protects. If they can't do that then how are they going to name all ten amendments in the Bill of Rights?

And hey, if they don't know about it then, like it doesn't have to enforced okay?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 02:51 AM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 12:51 AM #6 of 49
Originally Posted by Wesker
Someone in the Missouri legislature realized that their kids just might be led in an Islamic prayer because of the law they passed.
More like some hazing and a good beating in public schools.

Or maybe because they'd have to tolerate some Islamic prayers in school. Seriously how many Muslims are in Missouri? Perish the thought.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Mar 4, 2006, 06:05 PM Local time: Mar 4, 2006, 04:05 PM #7 of 49
Originally Posted by Fyodor D.
I think that is what the resolution is saying. That, by allowing children to, of their own accord, pray, that is in no way a violation of the establishment clause.
This changes nothing. The establishment clause only applies to government entities, not personal individuals.

What am I saying? Woe to the repressed majority of Christians in America!

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