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Pre-E3 Wii thread
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Old May 4, 2006, 02:51 PM #1 of 131
Post Pre-E3 Wii thread

Okay guys, it's six days until the Nintendo Conference so it's time for the Pre-E3 Wii thread. You guys did pretty well in the last thread. Keep it up. =)

Again just like last time, be warned that if you fag this thread up like the former Revolution threads then you will be banned from this thread and perhaps for a week or two from Mario's Warp Room or all of the gaming forums. So basically behave in this thread or else.


This is the Pre-E3 thread for discussion of Nintendo's next generation console named Wii formerly known as Revolution. As such it will be closed most likely a day or so before the Nintendo Press Conference for the creation of a Nintendo Conference plus E3 Wii thread with the same principle and rules.

Link to prior Revolution/Wii thread for time piecing.

Enjoy your speculation and what not and please, play nice.

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Old May 4, 2006, 03:02 PM #2 of 131
Wow Acer, such formal transitions! Correct me if I'm wrong but I think so far, Wii's the only next-gen console that's getting this sort of treatment around here at GFF.

Anyway, has it been officialy clarified as to what those pictures are of from the Sadness trailer? Is it safe to say that, that's just a person demonstrating how to play?

-EDIT-

Sigh...make way for the latest rumor. Wii for FREE

I don't know if I really believe this. I remember Sega did this for a while with Dreamcast when they were desperately trying to save it. If it is indeed true, I'm not sure how I'd feel about it. It might backfire.

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Last edited by Technophile; May 4, 2006 at 03:06 PM.
Old May 4, 2006, 03:24 PM #3 of 131
That would be quite the steal. It would be mighty awesome for my wallet and entertainment value if that rumor were true.

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Old May 4, 2006, 03:37 PM #4 of 131
Originally Posted by AcerBandit
That would be quite the steal. It would be mighty awesome for my wallet and entertainment value if that rumor were true.
Yeah it would be but it just seems more and more unlikely as I think about it. (And it's not like it seemed beliveble at first)

See, even if we ignore how much of a loss this would cause Nintendo and entertain the idea, how would they enforce it? We all know how major retailers LOVE to create their own super-bargainprofit induced, stupid bundles. SUPER XXXTREME OMEGA 360 bundle anyone?

At least when Sega did this with DC, you had to sighn up for 2 years worth of DC-online service so it made some sense. Now had the rumor suggested that you had to purchase an X amount of Nintendo games for the Virtual Console feature, it would have seemed more plausable.

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Old May 4, 2006, 03:46 PM #5 of 131
I'm just waiting for the final hardware annoucements. Nintendo and other companies keep discussing other "secrets," so I just must find out what they have in store.

Other note, the Nintendo conference is something like 18 hours after the Sony one and around 3 before the MS one. It's going to be a huge mess of information, and hell, everyone better have some decent counters in store.

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Old May 4, 2006, 05:44 PM Local time: May 4, 2006, 05:44 PM #6 of 131
I have a feeling the Nintendo side of E3 will go like this:

Phase 1: Videos of new Nintendo games for the Wii are shown. People are wowed at the graphics being twice as good as the Gamecube (even though this should be expected by pretty much anyone that has common sense). A few demos are given with what the controller can do.

Phase 2: Launch games are shown and 3rd parties demo their games. Every video shows a person swinging the controller around like a crack addict even for something as simple as pointing.

Phase 3: DSLite US release is revealed...noone cares because they want to see more of the Wii.

Phase 4: Some big surprise is revealed. Price, online system, virtual reality, toaster-oven built in, etc., etc.

Who else wants to take a guess?

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Old May 4, 2006, 05:54 PM #7 of 131
I think the Wii and PS3 price will be revealed at E3. They should be anyway, it's getting closer and closer to launch for both systems.

They'll probably start with DSLite stuff to make everyone salivate for Wii, and then when the Wii stuff is revealed, jaws will drop/unhinge.

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Old May 4, 2006, 06:00 PM #8 of 131
Originally Posted by sprouticus
I think the Wii and PS3 price will be revealed at E3. They should be anyway, it's getting closer and closer to launch for both systems.

They'll probably start with DSLite stuff to make everyone salivate for Wii, and then when the Wii stuff is revealed, jaws will drop/unhinge.
Um yeah, I'll be royally pissed if the prices and all the super nitty, gritty details for these consoles aren't revealed during this E3. I mean, they already kinda coped out during last year's E3. All both companies did was show the shell for their systems and that was pretty much it.

Oh and if Nintendo knows what it's doing, it'll definately reveal all the DS and GC (OK, Twilight Princess) info before they reveal anything about Wii. Otherwise, Wii will just overshadow everything else they have to say.

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Old May 4, 2006, 06:12 PM #9 of 131
I hope Nintendo divulges on the details of their downloadable games. I made a journal entry about it, but now I want to discuss it.

Quote:
I believe it was stated before how Nintendo was considering adding updates to their games, like brand new levels for the original Mario Bros and so on. That is where things get interesting. Suppose Nintendo takes a page from Xbox 360 Live and incorporates some of the features from the 360's downloadable games. How about the ability to play against someone online during a game of SNES Mario Kart? Or being able to show off your high score in an online ranking system?

Or better yet, how about letting the users submit some original levels to be incorporated into the classic games? They could give us some basic, easy to learn tools to let us make up some new Mario World levels. Or how about the ability to create some new scenarios and stories for some of the classic FF games (fanfiction put to good use)? I suppose such things would have to get approval first (can't have any penis-shaped block patterns or a rewritten story like that awful Chrono Trigger porn parody), but if Nintendo made a weekly contest out of it, it would be awesome. Or better yet, they could just let us share our fan-levels and RPGs freely to each other.

Of course, Nintendo needs to make some things clear in order for this to work. They have to stay dedicated to this concept, instead of starting off strong then losing interest after (like the whole GBA/GC connectivity thing, but that was never really strong to begin with). They also have to keep the price of downloads minimal. 5 bucks a game is okay, or better yet, a free download with each purchase of a new Wii game (heh).
What do you think? Will Nintendo let us submit our own levels? What are some classic games you would love to see updated?

Also, while I'm still iffy about the system using the name, I totally approve the term "Wiimulator".

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Last edited by Soldier; May 4, 2006 at 06:14 PM.
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Old May 4, 2006, 06:33 PM Local time: May 5, 2006, 01:33 AM #10 of 131
Nintendo has a history of not selling their consoles at a loss (hence their being the most profitable console company), so I find that rumour of giving away Wii consoles to be rather hard to believe. It would be awesome, though, I can't deny that.

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Old May 4, 2006, 08:44 PM #11 of 131
Wow the news just keeps on coming and E3 hasn't even started yet!

Ok so Kojima has stated that he's working on a brand new IP just for Wii! Here's the questionable part: It's geared towards girls. Eh? How girly are we talking? Cause I can take Animal Crossing/Nintendogs "girly" but if it's more like Barbie's Horse Adventures, then I'm a bit worried.


Oh and if anyone was still hoping that Wii's some sort of a prank, faux-name, give it up. The trademark has just surfaced. Wii's here to stay .:biggrin:

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Old May 5, 2006, 05:53 AM Local time: May 5, 2006, 09:53 PM #12 of 131
If I were the Nintendo conference planner...

1) Reggie raps on stage about Nintendo's Blue Ocean Strategy and Disruption Philosophy.
2) In comes the DS trailers.
3) Iwata-san explains some of the games. And some DS dates.
4) George Harrison talks about the successes of Nintendo and stuff (the numbers and stats).
5) Aonuma-san reveals more Zelda TP stuff and releases final trailer and date.
6) Miyamoto speech before....

7) THE FRENCH "Wii!" REVOLUTION (okay, I'm gonnna get stoned one day for all these puns I'm making). The Download service name turns out to be Nintendo "Go", price, release date, worldwide (2 weeks maximum difference), final secrets and finally TRAILERS!!!

8) Reggie invites 3rd party guys to come up. Trailers. Each director/producer talks about game for 30 seconds.

9) End of the show... or is it?

10) Gameboy CUBED!!!

Anyone want to take a punt on this guess?

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Old May 5, 2006, 06:33 AM Local time: May 5, 2006, 09:33 PM #13 of 131
Game Boy Cubed? Spew. Oh hay guys I stole this crap quality scan from the internet, One Piece Unlimited Adventure revealed.



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Old May 5, 2006, 06:46 AM Local time: May 5, 2006, 01:46 PM #14 of 131
Though I doubt that the 'free bundle' makes it's way anywhere outside the US, there's still something that bugs me. The games. 4 games from launch that's worth buying? Honestly, I'd see that before I believe it.
But if there's at least a proper Mario and a Zelda, then I'll get it.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old May 5, 2006, 07:06 AM #15 of 131
sorry, but am i the only one here who has never really loved reggie? i mean sure, he's ok, but i'm not going to all of a sudden go crazy over him or anything.

also, i'm getting kind of sick of "wii will change everything" that nintendo is spouting out in EVERY interview now. it was cool the first time, maybe the second, but not the hundredth (though IGN's "the nintendo minute" is almost completely useless anyway as it is basically a PR gimmick).

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aaaanyway, i'm kind of agreeing that wii will steal the show, so showing zelda and other gamecube or ds stuff earlier than wii would be advantageous (then showing zelda using the wii controller after this would rock). i can't wait... too bad i'm not going to e3.

also, about the bundle deal: i doubt it works like that, but knowing nintendo, there will be some sort of bundle deal (get the system, get a few games with it? it's sort of the reverse... though i like the idea of choosing your own games with it as well).

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Old May 5, 2006, 07:17 AM #16 of 131


Monkey Ball for Wii!

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Old May 5, 2006, 07:28 AM Local time: May 5, 2006, 11:28 PM #17 of 131
Originally Posted by RushJet1
sorry, but am i the only one here who has never really loved reggie? i mean sure, he's ok, but i'm not going to all of a sudden go crazy over him or anything.
I never LOVED him, in actual fact. But everyone else seems to. Why not use him? And plus, he has an enigma that engages the audience.

Any guesses at the "still-to-be-annouced" Wii secret?

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Old May 5, 2006, 07:38 AM #18 of 131
Still to be announced? ...I'd say there needs to be a Powerglove brought back.

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Old May 5, 2006, 09:04 AM #19 of 131
Originally Posted by chaofan
I never LOVED him, in actual fact. But everyone else seems to. Why not use him? And plus, he has an enigma that engages the audience.

Any guesses at the "still-to-be-annouced" Wii secret?
obviously force-feedback underwear. makes all those sexual games come to life!

ok seriously, i have no idea. knowing nintendo, it'll either be something way out there and weird that everyone will have to accept, something weird and way out there that will be freaking awesome, or something that everyone expected, and it will fall flat on its face (such as, THE WII WILL INTERFACE WITH THE DS! AMAZING).

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Old May 5, 2006, 09:32 AM #20 of 131
I wouldn't mind it if the Wii interfaced, connected, and did really interesting stuff with the DS. There's just that aura of wireless that's powerful. It could be a good thing!

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Old May 5, 2006, 09:34 AM #21 of 131
it could be a good thing, but it wouldn't be earth-shattering

though, wireless communication would be nice- no need to buy a damn link

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old May 5, 2006, 11:49 AM #22 of 131
It would be nice if the DS connected to the Wii so you could download content for games, or even download entire games and then play them via the wireless connection between the DS and Wii. That could work well for GBA games as well!

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Old May 5, 2006, 08:26 PM Local time: May 5, 2006, 06:26 PM #23 of 131
It would be interesting if Nintendo decided to have replacable hardware ... for example, an updated graphix processor every 1-2 years or so ... like a computer, basically, but easier.

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Old May 5, 2006, 08:54 PM Local time: May 5, 2006, 07:54 PM #24 of 131
Originally Posted by Smoodle
It would be interesting if Nintendo decided to have replacable hardware ... for example, an updated graphix processor every 1-2 years or so ... like a computer, basically, but easier.
Not to be totally off topic, but who is that in your avatar Smoodle?!


Oh and I believe Wii is gonna be sweet. Can't wait for Tuesday!!!!

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Old May 5, 2006, 09:29 PM #25 of 131
Originally Posted by Smoodle
It would be interesting if Nintendo decided to have replacable hardware ... for example, an updated graphix processor every 1-2 years or so ... like a computer, basically, but easier.
Ouch, I would not like that at all.

The problem that creates is that future games will not work on the older "non-upgraded" hardware.

Thus, less people would buy them.

Thus, less developers would make use of said hardware in order to make the most money.

How many games used the N64 memory expansion pak or the PS2 hard drive?

I wished that developers would have realized this all the way back when the Sega CD and 32X add-ons were released.

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