[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

All subscription-based services are scams. Can someone tell me why Microsoft charges $50 a year when they don't even have any dedicated servers. Then they have the nerve to charge you $5 when you download wallpaper for your dashboard, LoL.

The Sony service will be ten times worse, of course. It will ask for your credit credit number, then sign you off.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Gamespot

[UPDATE] Sony confirms delay for next-gen console, says it will support an Xbox Live-like online gaming service; console will require a 60GB Linux HDD--but will it be sold separately?

TOKYO--Today at the 2006 PlayStation Business Briefing in Tokyo, Sony Computer Entertainment president Ken Kutagari made it official--the PlayStation 3 has been delayed. The news confirmed widely circulated Japanese newspaper reports, which said that the delay was due to copyright-protection problems with the next-generation console's Blu-ray drive. For his part, Kutaragi would only say the delay was due to "Blu-ray spec finalization."

Kutaragi told the crowd at the event that the PS3 would now launch in November 2006 worldwide. That dispelled fears that the console would make it to Japan in time by the fall, but would miss the all-important holiday shopping season in the US and Europe. In fact, Kutaragi explicitly told the crowd of game retailers and journalists present that the PS3 would arrive before Thanksgiving in all territories.

Besides the delay, Kutaragi also made official another widely reported aspect of the PS3. He said that Sony is indeed preparing an Xbox Live-like online gaming service for the console, which would be called the "PlayStation Network Platform." Though he was short on specifics, the executive did say that currently Sony planned the service to be "free."

While the simultaneous tri-territory PS3 scheme may sound much like Microsoft's international launch of the Xbox 360, Sony plans to avoid the shortages that befell its competitor. Kutaragi said that the company plans on producing at least one million units of the console each month in order to keep the supply channel full. He said the goal was to ship 6 million PS3s worldwide by March 2007.

[UPDATE] The SCE president also told the crowd that the PS3 would use a 60GB 2.5" hard disc drive (HDD). A slide show during the presentation said the HDD would will be loaded with the Linux operating system versus Microsoft's Windows OS. The show also said it could be used as a "home server" and be directly connected to the Internet, and be full "upgradeable."

Kutaragi also made it clear that the hard drive will be necessary to play games--Sony is telling developers to make games assuming every PS3 has a hard drive installed. "We view the Hard Drive to be mandatory for the PS3," he said. "Rather than have developers create games for the PS3 with or without the HDD, we will be asking them to develop games as though all PS3s have the HDD installed."

However, Kutaragi revealed that Sony had not decided whether or not the PlayStation 3 would come with the hard-drive pre-installed. "We might end up installing it in all PS3s, though that depends on the market," he said. This raises the possibility that the PS3 could be sold without a piece of hardware needed to play PS3 games--in effect forcing consumers to buy a peripheral for basic functionality.

Kutaragi also said that PS3 games would be released only on Blu-ray discs, as DVDs have become too easy for software pirates to duplicate. The high-capacity format is capable of storing around 50GB on a single disc. Sony reps confirmed the PS3 will still play DVDs and CDs, as well as PS2 and PSone discs, as previously announced.
By Tor Thorsen, Brendan Sinclair, Henry Niizumi -- GameSpot

I liked the "will require" part.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

So PS3 is going to be $500 no matter what.

Without the HD, PS3 would still likely be $400, and a 60GB HD costs around $100.

I also like how the games are Blu-ray only. So Crash Bandicoot will cost $70, right.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Don't forget that Micro$oft charges $100 for their external 20gb HDD! Yes, even though it's a "laptop" hard drive, it's still a ripoff. I wouldn't be surprised if Sony had the nerve to charge $150 or more for their 60gb HDD, loaded with Linux OS, just for "the linux faggot" lol.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Elixir

I liked the "will require" part.

Wow, that's a compelling package. Linux and the like, Blu-Ray is the only thing holding the release date back (honestly, it's Sony as a whole's fault, not the PS3 team). Even if the system sells for $300 (or the much more likely $399), I'll never buy any new console system until the bugs have been worked out and when the price hits the $200 mark (when I bit into the PS2).
With a price higher than $200, I could buy a barebones PC, which I could put to far better use than a PS3. Is Sony going to pull a Saturn, 360 or a (gasp) 3DO? Only time will tell.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Go cry some more Fernando.

Also explain to me how Sony is rushing after they announced a delay?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Sony's final word and an analysts prediction.

http://www.gametrailers.com/viewnews.php?id=3035

http://www.gametrailers.com/viewnews.php?id=3039

FELIPE NO

Blu-ray ain't nothin' but a smoke screen. Sony simply wasn't prepared, and failed to deliver the dev kits in time, etc.

Quote:

"There's no chance in hell that Toshiba sells more standalone HD DVD players than Sony sells PS3s; it's not even possible.

LoL, wow.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Does anyone else think that the real reason PS3 was delayed was because they didn't have too many games ready?

Jam it back in, in the dark.

God forbid a delay be caused by more than one reason!

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

Does anyone else think that the real reason PS3 was delayed was because they didn't have too many games ready?

It could be, the PS3 is going to need great launch titles to make all the regions love it. It can't just have novelty Japanese games like most of the previous PlayStation launch titles have. There has to be at least a great game (if not a "killer app") to get people into buying a PS3 (who honestly is going to buy it for any other reason in 2006/2007? Well there's the Blu-Ray issue, but that's another story).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by SOLDIER

Does anyone else think that the real reason PS3 was delayed was because they didn't have too many games ready?

I've heard the complete opposite. I believe that they have the games ready but the hardware is just not widely available yet. They have stated that they will make 1 Million units a month up to the launch date to prevent shortages.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Of course the games are ready.

Sony would be fools to show off any games if they had them.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Terran Gell

Sony's final word and an analysts prediction.

http://www.gametrailers.com/viewnews.php?id=3035

http://www.gametrailers.com/viewnews.php?id=3039

The image of Mr. Kutaragi is broken and what he's saying is shit

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

What's funny is that Musharraf basically summed all that up in one sentence.

These predictions are essentially like throwing shit at a wall hoping one will stick. Kind of like when the PS2 was going to be released.

How ya doing, buddy?

What I find really funny is that people are so whipped into a frenzy about the PS3, they are ignoring the 360. The one year head start that the 360 has seems to be worth as much as the one year head start the Dreamcast had over the PS2...

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

It's almost definitely worth less; whether it be a manufactured shortage or a real one, the 360 has had no momentum whatsoever since a little while after launch, and thus there is no advantage to launching ahead of Sony.

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Originally Posted by neothe0ne

It's almost definitely worth less; whether it be a manufactured shortage or a real one, the 360 has had no momentum whatsoever since a little while after launch, and thus there is no advantage to launching ahead of Sony.

It seems that the only thing the 360 could do right was create insane, worthless hype:lolsign:

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by www.sega.co.jp

It could be, the PS3 is going to need great launch titles to make all the regions love it. It can't just have novelty Japanese games like most of the previous PlayStation launch titles have. There has to be at least a great game (if not a "killer app") to get people into buying a PS3 (who honestly is going to buy it for any other reason in 2006/2007? Well there's the Blu-Ray issue, but that's another story).

PS2 had no killer-apps for months and it killed the Dreamcast, which had an arguably better library. PS3 could do the same simply because it's Playstation.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Taterdemalion

PS2 had no killer-apps for months and it killed the Dreamcast, which had an arguably better library. PS3 could do the same simply because it's Playstation.

Momentum would be the real killer here. While the PS3 is guarenteed the top spot for most of this decade, will it be good enough (and have good enough games) to be at the top with the inevitable PS3? Hopefully Sony doesn't become too complacent and remember great games make or break the system, not hardware or hype (much like both XBoxes).

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Originally Posted by sega.co.jp

While the PS3 is guarenteed the top spot for most of this decade

It really isn't, we haevn't seen squat in terms of PS3 material. You have the CG scenes, and about 5 seconds of actual gameplay. And that's for a single game. Whose to say that the single game will be the most popular title? It could be Perfect Dark Zero all over again, except it will sell.

I wouldn't want to rush to conclusions and get my hopes up over the PS3. The price is automatically going to put me off, no matter how impressive the games are.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Elixir

It really isn't, we haevn't seen squat in terms of PS3 material. You have the CG scenes, and about 5 seconds of actual gameplay. And that's for a single game. Whose to say that the single game will be the most popular title? It could be Perfect Dark Zero all over again, except it will sell.

I wouldn't want to rush to conclusions and get my hopes up over the PS3. The price is automatically going to put me off, no matter how impressive the games are.

Of course, but you can thank Microsoft for actually making a $400 price point acceptable.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Elixir

It really isn't, we haevn't seen squat in terms of PS3 material. You have the CG scenes, and about 5 seconds of actual gameplay. And that's for a single game. Whose to say that the single game will be the most popular title? It could be Perfect Dark Zero all over again, except it will sell.

I wouldn't want to rush to conclusions and get my hopes up over the PS3. The price is automatically going to put me off, no matter how impressive the games are.

There has been pleanty of Real Time footage shown and even some gameplay for a few games.

FELIPE NO

Tells you not to state uneducated opinions as if they where facts eh?

You know I just realised... You can 99% likely run a windows emulation ontop of the Linux distro and play PC games(or zsnes for that matter <<) on your TV hehe.

Also I'm wondering what kind of online content they will have avalible. They are trying to 1up MS while keeping it free. Will be interesting to see more of that.

And yeah $400 for a blue-ray player/gaming console/media station/home server = dirt cheap. Especially with the hardware in this one.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by sega.co.jp

While the PS3 is guarenteed the top spot for most of this decade

Originally Posted by Kensaki

And yeah $400 for a blue-ray player/gaming console/media station/home server = dirt cheap. Especially with the hardware in this one.

We still don't know for a fact that it's gonna cost 400 bucks. Also, some of us still feel that adding very impressive, but still Irrelavant to core-gameplay, features does not justify a wallet busting price point.

PS3 has an insane amount of hype and speculation built up around it. However to say that it's pretty much guaranteed to come out on top over Microsoft and Nintendo next gen without even seeing or recieving any substantial gameplay footage or information (not to mention any real demos) is ridiculous. (Well..I guess no one will freak out too much if you rule out the 360)

Personally, I think that if the price point isn't too insane, and it's released with quality killer-app title or two & major bug-free, then Sony will secure it's place again. I especially like the simultaneous release idea. We won't have to deal with footage of titles released halfway around the globe taunted at our faces while we just sit and wait.

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