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HD-DVD or Blu-Ray?? O_O
Well, so here's the question I hope nobody has asked here before:
You know, HD-DVD players are *cough* a bit expensive (I think I can get a Toshiba one for about 700 bux here), and I heard that PS3 can play Blu-Ray DVDs, PLUS I get a cool gaming console Have you guys made any experience with those two formats yet? Jam it back in, in the dark. |
After carefully examining the evidence, I've decided that both formats are the Laserdisc of the 2000's (i.e. for enthusiasts only). As such, I won't be buying either.
First, you need a good HD TV to get any kind of higher resolution with the discs. I personally don't own and can't afford an HD set, which I suspect is the case with many others. Second, I've seen demo units in action, as well as some side-by-side comparisons with regular DVD's, and the effect simply isn't noticible enough. To quote James Berardinelli, the quality jump between VHS and DVD was far more noticible than the jump between regular and high def DVD. I just can't see enough of a difference. Finally, the DVD cases are a different size and don't fit in with my collection. That's a silly thing, yes, but psychologically important. As to which format will win, I'd stake my money on Blu-Ray, largely because it's currently cheaper. But the fact that the buying public at large is indifferent to High def DVD is one of the reasons that the PS3 has fared so poorly--it's just not that much of a selling point to most people. There's nowhere I can't reach.
Last edited by orion_mk3; May 13, 2007 at 11:40 AM.
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In the end, the image or audio quality gains aren't enough to warrant putting that much money into a HDTV + player.
Oh, and the PS3? There's a very easy explanation for what's happening there: $599 This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.
Last edited by Metal Sphere; May 10, 2007 at 11:00 AM.
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In some ways HD disks remind me of older technology like the mini disk, the power glove and the sega mega CD. The potential is there, but I think they're trying to force HD on the technology world before it's ready for it the need a new tv reason alone is proof enough, it might become the general standard in the future but for now it's too soon imo.
It's not even as if it's a replacement technology since most people will still be using dvd movies, if anything this seems more like a way to seperate the pros from the novice game/film makers I guess edit: is this the most blatent hidden HD advert ever or is it just me?
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Last edited by S_K; May 10, 2007 at 11:37 AM.
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Though you could say the government is forcing people to abandon their old analog sets for digital ones, come the switch. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
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Edit: IMO, this is due to the related industries doing a poor job of informing consumers. On the PC front, the drives are pretty pricey and you need a good system to run a video @ 720p without the computer choking. Then the fact that you need a graphics card with HDCP compliant outputs and a monitor that won't have handshake issues with the card. All that just to play an HD-DVD/BR movie on your computer. How ya doing, buddy? The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.
Last edited by Metal Sphere; May 10, 2007 at 12:39 PM.
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I have a 56" HDTV. In my opinion, my upconverting dvd player is fine, but I don't know who's going to win the war. Blue Ray has an edge because of the PS3, but Microsoft and many other companies are backing HD-DVD.
Either way I'll have both players because of the PS3. And the Toshiba Super Upconverting XA2 Player. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=2UOJOTG3P49KX Personally I don't care who wins. The Matrix Trilogy however is being released for HD-DVD this month. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Honestly, I wish it was as easy as Mr. Enderle put it. Walmart declares winner, all this dumb shit is over. What the? Crunchy, you sure that's definite news? Here's PC Magazine a few days later with Walmat saying "Umm, no" Source Source
There's nowhere I can't reach. The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even.
Last edited by Metal Sphere; May 10, 2007 at 02:03 PM.
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If Wal-Mart is playing a hand in the game, then HD-DVD is going to win the battle against Blu-Ray. Wal-Mart accounts for almost 80% of movies and music sold in the US (unfortunately), and if studios don't play by their rules, they stand to lose millions (if not billions).
HD-DVD does have a noticeable difference in quality, if you have the right setup for it. You need a very expensive television (most likely one from the same manufacturer as your HD-DVD player so that compatibility is maximized). It's a very expensive upgrade for something that may not be highly valued. I don't think that it's worth the price tag right now, but if you give it a year or two and see the prices of the TVs, players and discs go down, it'll become more common. Blu-Ray is a wash, just like every other Sony proprietary format that they've tried to force on the public. Stay away from Blu-Ray players...and only get a PS3 if you want the games. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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I look at it this way: It's taken forever just to get everything I want to come out on JUST the DVD format. So by the time these two formats become relevent, it'll be another 3-4 years before all the stuff I want gets released (or re-released) in super-expensive format and even then, some might be HD-DVD, some might be Blu-Ray. Not worth it for upgraded visuals and sound (which are fine anyway and in some cases, probably won't matter if the original masters of the material is shit anyway)
Besides, DVD has already taken care of the archival issue of VHS tapes, so that's one major selling point these new formats don't have. Translation: I'm happy with my trusty DVD/VHS deck. Maybe after I'm clearing $50,000 a year and I feel I need for something to complement a $3000 60-70" Hd-TV which I'd be using to entertain guests on a regular basis, I'll care. Most amazing jew boots
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I've personally started showing my support for Blu-ray, simply because I have a PS3 and have no desire to get any sort of HDDVD player.
For people that don't notice the difference, well chances are the demo units then that you saw weren't configured correctly, be it wrong cables or wrong resolution selected on the TV (unless it was all connected via HDMI) and then there's always the whole distance issue. I've currently got my PS3 connected to my Dell2405 monitor so it is displaying the full 1080i picture (no 1080p due to lack of HDCP on the monitor ) and I'm really enjoying it, the difference between a normal DVD and a HD source is instantly noticble for me personaly and to boot, Blu-ray currently has more movies out for it compared to HD-DVD. Now just for The Matrix to come out on Blu-ray and I'll be a happy geek =] What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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I honestly couldn't give a rat's ass, as DVD has been just fine for me. If I had to choose, though, I'd go with HD-DVD. Blu-Ray is simply pointless to put a movie on. No matter how high the picture quality is, I find it very doubtful that it (along with the myriad of special features you see on Special Edition DVDs) would take up the massive amount of space on a Blu-Ray disc. On top of that, it's really just another example of Sony stuffing proprietary formats down our throats.
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blu ray is the way to go, why not boost up your points
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Last edited by pianoman1; Apr 10, 2008 at 03:21 PM.
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