Suggestions for a new forum

I am wondering why there isn't already a forum on here (unless I missed it) for people who want to sell their old games and systems. Members can list what they have for sale, the condition of the items, etc. Other members who are looking to add to their collection can check out the forum and see if there is anything there they would like. A Buy and Sell type of forum that gives us an option other than online auctions where some people try to charge you $20 to mail a CD by regular mail.

What do people think?

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Such a forum isn't going to be made.

If you're intending on selling something, the best place to do so is to write a new entry in the ChocoJournals. There's a link near the top of every forum page. You'll have to go into your User CP options to turn on your journal though.

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This has been suggested before, but there wouldn't really be enough activity in such a forum, I think. On the other hand, I would feel safer buying something from a gamingforce member that I've known for years than from someone on eBay, so I dunno really.

Speaking of which, I wonder if there'd be interest in setting up some kind of exchange system, like, you know, trading games that you don't play anymore with other people (though that could be done in a single thread, not a whole forum).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

GFF wouldn't have to be responsible for fools in a Buy/Sell/Trade forum/thread. They can make a sticky saying that you buy/sell/trade at your own risk as they have no way of telling who is trying to rip people off. It's up to the individual user if they want to risk losing $15 buying Mario Party 52.

I just figured that people would be more comfortable dealing with people they "know" here rather than strangers on eBay or uBid. It was just an idea.

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GFF Mini-EBay is neat, but I also think that CJ whoring is fine enough. Sure there's always the risk that people won't bother to read the entry, but it filters out the people who are interested from those who are just browsing around. Plus, a subforum would really bring an onslaught of spammers and such who would just use GFF for this and clutter up the board. They might even get the impression that advertising is allowed and would start spamming outside of the particular forum into other categories in an attempt to sell their products (of course, not like we have enough of this already o_o) Of course PMing is also just as viable as CJ usage.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I agree with what Summon says. If it ever did happen, the onslaught of no0bs would be upon us, and look what happened to the sub-forum? It's like eBay all over again with Level 1-5 no0bs selling God knows what.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I'll have to join the camp of fraud worriers here. The problem is that if the wrong person gets ripped off, they'll try to accuse GFF of being responsible, since the trade was transacted on the site, or whatever. Even if they don't, there's still SO many fraud worries that we'd never be able to prevent it from happening. eBay and craigslist, among others, are already set up.

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I likewise would go against something like this. It's not that it wouldn't work; it's that there would be too much liability, people clamoring for methods to make things easier for them to make transactions, and I don't think it would have much forum support anyway. Then if it did get off the ground it would attract a crowd that doesn't match up with our existing community much.

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It could be difficult to set up GFF as a platform for stuff like that, I don't know about US law, but there could be responsibility issues GFF wouldn't want to deal with, so we better do not have this forum. I like the idea in general, but I don't see it being realized.

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I think it's a splendid idea, honestly.

Again, if you put emphasis on the trade at your own risk detail, I don't think there would be many problems. The problems with journals is that not everyone reads them and the likelihood of a trade decreases dramatically, especially if they don't notice it when you're entry is one of the latest ten.

Most gamingforce members are smart enough to know who to and not to trade with. For example, a level one member making his first post in the trading forum offering an IPod for $5 most likely is not legitimate and would be hard pressed finding a member to trade with whereas some of the more known members would have no problem dealing with trust issues.

But then, there is that liability that something might get lost in the mail and the reputation of whoever might seem at fault is tarnished.

It's a tricky situation, but I don't think there would be any way to find out whether or not it's a sound idea without actually giving it a shot.

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I made the suggestion because Ifigured that a lot of people who are regulars on here would feel comfortable dealing with each other. No one would have to buy/sell/trade with anyone they don't know or trust. Basically it would give GFF users one more place where they could buy/sell/trade stuff along with eBay and all those places.

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And my feeling is that regulars who would feel comfortable dealing with each other will likely get in contact with each other via PM and journals. Creating a forum for it is asking for people who don't necessarily trust each other to deal with each other. Or create minor drama by turning people down because they don't know them. Which ellicits the response that someone is being unfair or judgmental because they're a regular. Etc. I just can't see it playing out well in my mind.

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Originally Posted by eday_2010

I made the suggestion because Ifigured that a lot of people who are regulars on here would feel comfortable dealing with each other. No one would have to buy/sell/trade with anyone they don't know or trust. Basically it would give GFF users one more place where they could buy/sell/trade stuff along with eBay and all those places.

But that's the point of eBay. Selling crap to unknown strangers. In a way, it could be said here in the same way. You could know them well enough here, but who knows if they're ripping you off?

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I had a thread about this pre-last Crash, and it worked out pretty good. I remember finding and buying something from a member who's name I forget. IIRC, we had about 3 or 4 transactions in a page that was about 2 or 3 pages long. Not a LOT of stuff but the forum asploded before too long anyway.

Wasn't a bad deal in the least. Just make sure the person can back you up with proof that they're trustworthy, like an eBay account history, or perhaps a CAG trade history or something of that nature.

A thread for this would be fine. Think GAF's trade list. Post what you want or got to trade or are selling, and then you can PM from there to see if people are interested.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

I don't think Gamingforce should encourage a "marketplace" atmosphere. I think there could be a lot of unforseen problems (like all others have suggested) and it MAY change things around here, depending on how it went.

At the same time, members often have something that another member could use or want.

I would say if the liability of it is completely , entirely, and unquestionably removed from GFF and there was only ONE trading/buying thread in CC or something stickied at the top, it would cool.

I think if someone does consider making a thread like this a possibility, that there should definitely be a cap on levels or something as to address each person's personal reputation with buying/selling.

But seeing how a forum or thread like this would have so much red tape or restrictions on usage, maybe it's just best left to the journal whoring.

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Originally Posted by Musharraf

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Why, yes it is Mush. I have lost a lot of weight, graduated from Yale, and have starred in such movies as Contact and Silence of the Lambs!

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This woman so totally doesn't look like Yale, but okay.

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How would GFF be liable in the first place? It's not liable for anything we say or do in the Request or My Stuff forums, so it's should be rather obvious that this place can't be held accountable for the actions of it's individual members. Especially in legal trading situations such as this, since GFF doesn't handle the money or anything. It's no different than Craigslist.

A game trading thread would be interesting. Obviously all trades would be operated at the participant's discretion. They shouldn't deal with people they don't trust. Ask the participants to supply an eBay history or something similar to show they're legit. That'd help.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Skills

How would GFF be liable in the first place? It's not liable for anything we say or do in the Request or My Stuff forums, so it's should be rather obvious that this place can't be held accountable for the actions of it's individual members. Especially in legal trading situations such as this, since GFF doesn't handle the money or anything. It's no different than Craigslist.

A game trading thread would be interesting. Obviously all trades would be operated at the participant's discretion. They shouldn't deal with people they don't trust. Ask the participants to supply an eBay history or something similar to show they're legit. That'd help.

So you do like the idea of an individual thread in lieu of an entire forum?

Because the liability part can be completely removed from GFF if everyone is strict and abides by it. It should be an independent undertaking by members and between members. Like you said: Craigslist.

The only problem is that no one can actually ENFORCE anything if this is the case - which could be a detriment, albeit not a very large one.

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Originally Posted by Colonel Skills

It's not liable for anything we say or do in the Request or My Stuff forums,

You should be aware of the fact that it actually is.

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Is it not true that the forums could, in theory, be subpoenaed or something to give up member information, but the actual people getting in shit would be the users themselves instead of the forums? Seeing as how nothing is actually hosted on GFF?

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

How about a spot in your profile where you can put things you're willing to buy/sell and make it searchable? Perhaps have a page that displays lists which were updated within the last couple of days or something?

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Originally Posted by Colonel Skills

Is it not true that the forums could, in theory, be subpoenaed or something to give up member information, but the actual people getting in shit would be the users themselves instead of the forums? Seeing as how nothing is actually hosted on GFF?

Well yeah, GFF is offering the platform for this all. That's the way it is. Theoretically, it's illegal, but practically, they would have to shut down bazillions of message boards, so they don't even bother, I guess. Again, I don't know about US law, but I would be surprised if it wasn't illegal.

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I dunno if you guys were aware of this but there are like, newspapers where complete strangers deal with very real money every single day. Often the goods are stolen!

HOW WOULD THIS BE ANY DIFFERENT?

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