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The specifics of that theory are way, way out there. The island is not Manhattan. It's ridiculous even for Lost. Ghosts reanimating corpses and time travel is more plausible to fit into the storyline of the show. I mean, come on. Geographically, I don't think the plane was anywhere near that region of the world when it was brought down. Let's say that doesn't matter and some crazy space/time dislocation magic occurred. The island was overrun to the point where there would be no sign of buildings, roads, subways, docks, bridges, or electrical systems in one of the most densely populated places on earth? How about the smaller island nearby?

I don't know about the Adam and Eve thing. All that will probably come back into the show as a factor near the conclusion, but there's so little information over that mystery that any sort of speculation is really grasping.

Given the quotes, though, it seems likely that the guy found a major reference for the show's creators, that's what seems interesting. That the smoke monster is a spiritual manifestation of a dead dog might be the first fan theory that I'm actually rooting for being correct.

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It was an okay one for a Kate focused episode, but, typically, the Kate-centric are the worst ones.

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Yeah, Sass, I called that too. Wonder if there'll be an Aaron flashforward this season with him as a teenager or something. Wouldn't be surprised.

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I like how Miles has been sitting with a grenade in his mouth for like four episodes now.

About what Radez and Jazz are discussing.

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Jin died before getting off the island, I think, but probably won't do so immediately, much like in season 3 with Charlie. The tombstone did say 2004. That most likely references the day of the crash because if you remember the episode with Kate's trial, the story they told wasn't that they were the only ones who managed to make it out, but the only ones who survived long term. Besides, in the show timeline, there's only a few days in 2004 left, and who knows what the hell date it is in crazy island time.

Upon reviewing, the date did in fact say September 22nd 2004.

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I thought this was one of the better episodes as well. Maybe not of the series. Hell of a lot better than last weeks. The flash forward/back really threw me, but what impressed me is that they didn't make the identity of the spy the big reveal at the end. Cause, c'mon. You knew who it was.

What this week's episode leaves me confused about is this. It's been assumed that Claire and her baby were fine because he was conceived off the island. But Sun and daughter survived, conceived on island, born off. The only possible pattern left is what was said about the third trimester. Perhaps babies developing on the island over a long period of time is the cause. Of course, why in the hell that would be is what we really want to know.

About the staged crash. Whole world knows 815 disappeared. They find a crashed plane. They find a black box. Staged or not, it's confirmed to be from the survivors plane. Maybe I should have thought of this awhile ago, but maybe the black box thing just made it trigger. It's universally accepted as fact that all passengers on board 815 died. So how are the Oceanic Six so universally accepted? Why does anyone believe that they were on that plane? Was Naomi bluffing when she acted shocked about them being survivors of the flight, because Miles and the captain both seemed to know all about it.

If the "Six" didn't refer to the children and Jin didn't make it out alive, well, goddammit, give us the last one already.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

What really irks me about this season is the focus on time travel. It's obviously a diversion as to the importance of the island. It's still interestingly handled for sure, but let's get back to the faith based aspects of it, eh?

It's kinda hilarious how they mucked up on the development of three characters over the past couple seasons and just decided MERCENARIES KILL 'EM.

There were many plot threads pulled on this past episode, some more recent, some dating back to the first episode. Ben sicked the smoke monster on his pursuers and the result heavily resembled what was heard and seen in the pilot. What was the thing going apeshit on like that when they all first crashed?

Also hilarious, the three red shirt never seen before extras being offed. I almost couldn't believe it. One would serve as a nice inside joke as to the random disposable survivors, two is pushing it, three is just absurd. As was the swelling music during Ben's radio speech to Keamy.

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I don't think that person in the coffin from last season was Hurley because it was a noticeably small coffin. I think it may be Aaron.

Not likely, judging from Kate's reaction to Jack being all distraught over the death at the end of season 3. She probably would have been a bit torn up about it. Also, she says she has to get back to him, that him's most likely Aaron. The newspaper article also talks about how the person hanged himself in his own apartment. Although the coffin did appear strangely small, it'd have to be talking about an adult there. My money would be on Ben.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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In "Eggtown" during Kate's trial in the flashforwards, Jack stated that there were only 8 survivors from the 815 crash on the island. And that 2 died while on the island, making 6. So the world thinks the rest died. But maybe the Six knows otherwise.

In a podcast there was a question was posed to the producers via email about this, the person implied in the question that maybe the extra two were just made up to help solidify the cover up of what actually happened and or not important, like background characters. The producers basically flat out said that, yes, that was the case. Don't put any stock into Jack's testimony.

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I was impressed with Michael's response to the dudes, too.

I guess so, but he did put a gun to his own head and pull the trigger, he is clearly suicidal. It'd be out of character for him to deny that he's Ben's man.

Why can't Lost have more scenes anymore like the speechless Ben/Hurley sharing a Dharma Bar scene? That was great.

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The Orchid has not yet been revealed in the show, only in related media.

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So, I ran across some spoilers about the season's end.

If one of them is true, it seems sort of like a natural conclusion.

But if what happens in the orchid is true, well, that's just bizarre and not in a good way. Hoping this was false information.

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Alright, gave in and read a brief snippet of the finale spoiler.

If I read what Uzuki did, I'm not really complaining. Frozen Donkey Wheel (reading the spoiler = what this is should be apparent) sounds fucking AWESOME. Can't wait to see this.

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I guess it's no more out of line with the plausible as a smoke monster, ghost visits, and time travel are, but I dunno. I guess I didn't expect the codename of the reveal to be so literal. Minus the donkeys. I hope.

Maybe I'm just more miffed that this "reveal" answers absolutely nothing. We know nothing more about the island, only that you can chisel away at a frozen wheel and spin for big bucks/space-time travel. They better make this look fantastic. And the Oceanic 6 damn better witness the island moving as well. It all needs to tie together to how... unnerved they are about the events leading to their rescue.

I am very satisfied about who is in the coffin, however. Given that the fine print of the obituary artical in the season 3 finale was a total fake, it makes the most sense thematically.

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That clip was brought to mind only because recently I was that guy. Myself along with another co-worker were discussing the premier being only a day away when somebody listening in chimed, "Lost? That show blows." What followed was a series of plot points and quizzical expressions.

"All the women die before they can carry to term."
"John Locke isn't really John Locke."
"Oh yeah, there's time travel."

"How long can you have these people marooned on an island?"
"Oh, they were rescued."
"Well then what's the show about?"
"Oh, they went back."
"...Why?"
"Uh, that's not really clear yet. You really want us to shut up now, don't you?"

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Just because Christian's body is presumed missing, that doesn't mean it's vanished. In the premier, there was a white shoe hanging from the trees. A episode last season had Jack explaining how in a rush for the funeral preparation, he tossed white tennis shoes on him. Of course he's not in the casket, he was flung from it. Dude's M/O seems to be to hide the bodies of those he imitates so nobody lets on. For whatever reason, he wasn't able to get his hands on Locke's before the Shadow Statue Crew secured it.

Outing myself as a huge Lost dork, I have read interviews from the producers of the show specifically stating that viewers are not going to take away a Sopranos like ending to the show. They say it will be definitive. The other side of the coin is that they're not going to answer mysteries that aren't important to the characters. They also state that they wouldn't be showing us this alternative reality if it wasn't going to somehow become relevant.

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Am I the only person who has never liked Sun?

Never ever? Maybe. Her character starting out wasn't the worst. But these past few seasons she's been written everywhere from awful to nonexistent. I would think most people would find the couple superfluous in the past two seasons.

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It's really very simple. The man without a name wanted to get off the magical island he was born on to see the real world he was told didn't exist with the help of a wooden wheel that was built by visiting Romans to harness exotic matter and send the person who turns it to the desert in Tunisia while creating a spherical purple dome that sends the other people on the island back in time but he was turned into a smoke monster because his twin brother threw him into a cave filled with magical light a little of which exists in every man for killing their mother who wasn't really their mother but did kill their real mother which eliminated the protector of the island so the slow brother that threw him into the light then became the new protector and vowed never to let his evil brother leave the island and that he would prove to him not all people are bad people so for 2000 years he kept that vow with the help of an immortal Latin man from the Canary islands whose slave ship crashed into an Egyptian statue and a group of people he led there by touching them when they were children, using magic numbers, and corralling them all into a plane which was destined to crash that was comprised of a spinal surgeon, a murderous criminal, and a con man all engaged in an endless love quadrangle with a fertility specialist and an Iraqi torturer who falls for a spoiled diva, her incestuous step-brother who was the chief operating officer of a wedding clothing subsidiary, a junkie British rock star, a pissed off female Latino cop, a pregnant Australian woman who wants to give her baby up for adoption, a wealthy Korean heiress and her corporate hitman husband, a white dentist and his African American cancer patient wife, a teacher, a priest who formerly dealt drugs in the Africa, a TV star and her chef lover, a lottery winning fat dude, and some black guy and his son but after mingling with a crazy French woman and a one eyed Russian with his cohorts that consisted of a gay guy, a compulsive liar, and the aforementioned fertility specialist for 108 days and pushing a button every 108 minutes some of them decided to leave the island on a helicopter because mercenaries from a freighter were trying to kill them but they eventually decided to come back by crashing on another plane using coordinates to locate the mysterious moving land mass that they got from an old omniscient woman with a pendulum in the basement of a church and they wound up time traveling to 1977 where they worked for hippy scientists when a physicist whose brain had been damaged by radiation recommended they detonate a hydrogen bomb built by the American military which they did and it sent them back to the future where the no name brother monster took the form of a dead paraplegic and systematically manipulated them all along into to killing each other by getting them to set off plastic explosives hidden in a backpack while submerged in a submarine so that he could use a Scottish man who is immune to electromagnetism that was brought there by his rich father in law that also used to live there and his team of geologists to destroy the source and sink the island but he'll wind up failing and everyone will go to a concert.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

As the series is winding down, I can't say I'm disappointed. My expectations of it as a mystery to be unraveled were never high, but I've always appreciated it as an amalgamation of genres and themes. I'm also a fan of ambiguity in tales and letting the audience work specifics out for themselves. And whether things are coming to a head the way they are because the writers felt backed into a corner or because they're staying true to atmosphere the show has had from the beginning, it's ending fittingly from my viewpoint. However, the comedy in the convoluted narrative is obvious.

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So I guess Matthew Fox accidentally made direct eye contact with the camera last episode.



Which drove someone to make an animated gif of the scene.

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"Jack is tickled over your idiocy and then immediately disgusted."

And playing it in reverse ranks among one of the creepier things I've seen.



Jesus.

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About five years ago:

"OK, OK, so everybody is assuming the island is purgatory. But check this. What if we flipped that on its head and made the island real but ordinary life purgatory instead?"

"OMG, that is it. What would be the most convoluted way ever of making this happen?"

*furious dickshank noises*

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