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Old Jun 23, 2006, 10:13 AM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 08:13 AM #1 of 60
Playing with a walkthrough

I've come across this issue a few times with my friends and I. Back in the day, my friends would buy new games (FFX for example) and would purchase the the guide to match. This really irked me because I was always gung-ho about not having the game's secrets spoiled. However, my friends had a lot less time to play games than I did and now I'm finally starting to see. They just wanted to play the game and get everything because they didn't have the time to explore.

Right now, I'm finding myself in the same position as them where I don't have as much free time anymore. Does anyone play with FAQs, or are you up for finding games' secrets yourself?

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 10:27 AM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 05:27 PM #2 of 60
I don't like to go looking for secrets in RPGs, so I often grab a FAQ to make sure I don't skip things.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 10:28 AM #3 of 60
A lot of the time, I used to be a perfectionist, so I would go through my RPGs with walkthroughs only to get items and such that I never wanted to miss (eg. All 8 flame jewels, and best ending requirements in Valkyrie Profile), otherwise I would have to repeat all the events again, despite knowing what happens.

Nowadays, I only glance at a walkthrough when I actually think I'm stuck or don't want to do something too risky, like wasting an item on a difficult fight when it it is more urgently needed for a later fight.

Sometimes, I'll just look at the walkthrough even if I'm doing fine in the game, to see if the writer interpreted certain points of the game to be tricky or easy in comparison to me, and I'll just read up to the point where I'm at in the game.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 10:38 AM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 07:38 AM #4 of 60
Depends for me, I will only play the game with a walkthrough for RPG's, but I don't do it all the time. Sometimes I'm in a perfectionist mood, and sometimes I don't give a crap and will play the game a second time to get the missed stuff. I always get spoiler free walkthroughs though, I hate when the guide starts explaining cutscenes and such.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 11:48 AM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 10:48 AM #5 of 60
On my first playthrough on a game, I will not generally use a guide. I will, however, look up a FAQ on gamefaqs IF I am painfully and hopelessly stuck somewhere and have exhausted all in-game avenues available to help me figure my way out of the jam. I will look only at the section regarding the specific spot I am having problems with. Any subsequent playthrough, I will usually keep a guide by my side while playing, mainly for maps with item locations marked.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 12:09 PM Local time: Jun 24, 2006, 06:09 AM #6 of 60
I usually don't go through a game with a walkthrough, but then again it entirely depends on the game itself.

For example, games like Katamari Damacy don't need guides. Arcade and fighting games don't either. But games like Disgaea do, especially if you want to get into the technical side of that game with item world, levelling items, specialists in items et cetera. I usually won't look up a walkthrough unless I'm extremely stuck.

I also don't look up stuff for GBA/NDS titles. It's just retarded. How can you possible get stuck on any GBA or DS title, unless it's in japanese. And when it concerns japanese, generally I won't find a guide. Most japanese games don't have guides for them, but some do.

For codes and secrets, I generally don't check them out until after I've completed the game. Even then, if there's a glitch or something that'll mess up my game save, I probably won't touch it. This happened with Ocarina of Time, it's not happening again.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 12:25 PM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 05:25 PM #7 of 60
I'll only use a walkthrough if I have time constraints, or if the game is really damned confusing. I recently played through Chrono Cross, and since I only had four days, a walkthrough was somewhat important. And hey, it's Chrono Cross, and the game was so poorly explained that I needed a walkthrough so no more shit would be confused out of me.

Generally, though, I don't use walkthroughs. There are certain games (Xenogears, Tales of Phantasia) that would just feel... Ruined.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 02:24 PM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 04:54 PM #8 of 60
It really depends on the game and the situation. Ideally, I like to play through once without a guide, then use one on a second play-through to try to do and get everything or (if applicable) get a particular ending. But if the game gets EXTREMELY annoying and I end up wanting to finish it just for the sake of the plot, I'll cave in and use a guide. Silent Hill 4 is the biggest offender here; when I reached the second half of the game and realised that I was going to have to spend the entire rest of the game re-playing old levels and babysitting annoying NPCs, I just said, "Screw this," and used a (plot spoiler free) FAQ to race through the rest of the game as quickly as possible.

In most games (especially when it comes to RPGs) I might glance at the side-quest section of an FAQ before heading off to the final boss, just to see if there's any extremely obvious quests I've missed. But I'll rarely use the guide for the game itself until I'm hopelessly stuck or annoyed enough that I just want to finish it as fast as possible. I don't like needlessly cheating, and far too many FAQs are riddled with spoilers anyway.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 04:15 PM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 10:15 PM 1 #9 of 60
Absolute no-no for me. If there is a secret there, it is called a secret for a reason, and I'd hope the designers intention was for me to derive some joy from discovering those secrets by myself, otherwise why put them in at all? I've felt great satisfaction from discovering something new on my 3rd or 4th playthrough of one of my favourite games. What a hollow waste to rob myself of that.

This marriage of gamer and obsessive compulsion that bears "perfectionism" is really baffling. Why want for perfection when you're not actually going to do it yourself? You might as well just hand the joypad to somebody else and let them play and discover the game for you, as you silently watch along. Sort your lives out.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 04:39 PM #10 of 60
I like to explore on my own, only when I hit a roadblock do I refer to such a guide. But it really depends on what kind of game it is to me.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 05:46 PM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 11:46 PM #11 of 60
I've never been a fan of walkthroughs, and have never used one, first-time round.
I like to go through a game by myself, exploring and finding everything i can the first-time through. When it comes to the second or third time through an RPG then i will have a look through a walkthrough, and see what i could have gotten the first time.

Walkthroughs also help with the more difficult aspects of games. FFVII Gold Chocobo breeding for one. (Well, i had to use a walkthrough to do this. Eventually got one on my seventh time through the game.) But i don't use them if i get stuck on a particular part of a game that is a main part of the game, i just stick at it, and explore more and take the time to enjoy the game more.

Overall i find that walkthroughs/ FAQS/ cheats take the fun out of games. Once i have finished a game once, then i'm all for using the above mentioned methods to see if i can get anything more out of the game.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 06:10 PM Local time: Jun 24, 2006, 01:10 AM #12 of 60
Similarly to Amanda, I also used a FAQ when playing through Silent Hill 4.

I knew beforehand that there would be much running back and forth to get inventory and stuff sorted out, and I knew that that part of it would just kill the game for me. So I used a FAQ so I could sort of plan ahead a bit, and not have to go back to the Room every single time I found a new item and so on.
In that case, the FAQ really helped me enjoy a game I would've otherwise disliked (and I'm a very big Silent Hill fan).

I think that's the only time I've used a FAQ for an entire game playthrough (though I mostly focused on what items I'd find and stuff).


I definetely use FAQs to find secret stuff in RPGs. There's no way in hell I could motivate myself to go out and find things like that nowadays (though I did it in FFVII for some reason).

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 06:57 PM #13 of 60
I feel like I'm not getting my money's worth if I don't discover everything the game has to offer, so I will often buy a guide for that reason, especially in RPGs.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 07:10 PM Local time: Jun 23, 2006, 06:10 PM #14 of 60
I always get this dirty feeling if i use a walkthrough on a game if don't truley need it. I will use one on occasion if i'm horribly stuck, and my usual strategies for the situation don't work.

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Old Jun 23, 2006, 08:52 PM #15 of 60
I generally play games with guides from GameFAQS because I don't have the time to play them more than once. I like to see as much of a game as I can the first time through. However, I some times take breaks from games near the end of them and don't get back to them for months or years.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 04:46 AM Local time: Jun 24, 2006, 04:46 PM #16 of 60
nowadays I always play with walkthrough, my instinct as gamer has been dulled already because I havent played much games in several years. I have yet to beat Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time.

;_; shame on me.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 07:14 AM #17 of 60
I play with walkthroughs only if I get stuck in certain places and don't have the time to figure out what happened to get me stuck. However, I don't read the entire walkthrough because I want to continue finding stuff on my own.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 08:08 AM Local time: Jun 24, 2006, 07:08 AM #18 of 60
It depends on the game. If I'm playing an import RPG *coughXenosagacough* then for certain there'll be one. Other games I typically try to avoid them at least the first time through, but it just depends.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 08:27 AM Local time: Jun 24, 2006, 11:27 PM #19 of 60
I've never read a walkthrough. Scrolling past all that text to get to the area I'm stuck at would make me tired and I'd probably fall off the chair and sleep for several months. If I get stuck, I'll like, scratch my noggin until it's raw and bloody. Then if I'm still stuck after all that, I'll turn the game off and play it again later on.

Sometimes this takes years. For example, I got so annoyed at some dungeon in Zelda OoT (Water Temple .. I think?) I didn't play it again for three years. Then I tried again, and eventually beat it. What a day that was!

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 08:29 AM #20 of 60
I don't have a huge amount of time, and I generally don't like playinjg a game twice until a long time has passed, so I'll generally use walkthroughs on the first playthrough in certain circumstances.

Usually, if you have to do obscure things in-game in order to get a special ending, I'll use the walkthrough for that. I always thought it was cruel that people who tried to figure out the game by themselves got the crummy ending anyway.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 09:28 AM #21 of 60
I used to play games without FAQs and walkthroughs but it took awhile for me to beat them, especially when I'm stuck at a certain point and don't know what to do. I usually use FAQs when I'm playing RPGs for the second or third time just to clear the entire game. Now I use walkthroughs for almost every game I play because I'm too lazy to figure out what to do or where to go next. It also saves me a lot of time, giving me the chance to move on to other games asap.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 12:27 PM Local time: Jun 24, 2006, 02:27 PM #22 of 60
I have nothing against Walkthroughs and use them all the time if I get stuck or for tips if the game doesn't have that many checkpoints. Running around in circles because I need to talk to X at town X, is just something I have no patience for.

I don't recommend following Walkthroughs meticulously unless you are looking for secrets or collecting though, as it can get boring.

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Old Jun 24, 2006, 08:03 PM #23 of 60
I don't like walkthroughs because they almost always spoil something really important in the game, even if you only read up to where you are. I really don't get stuck in games often but when it happens I will resort to a walkthrough as a last resort.

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Old Jun 25, 2006, 08:43 AM Local time: Jun 25, 2006, 02:43 PM #24 of 60
I used to be a perfectionist but now I rarely use a walkthrough for playing through games first time. It's hard to imagine I was playing games and having the element of surprise captured in a moment of text. It's like watching football highlights when you already know the scores. If I got really stuck and I rated the game highly enough then I'll will look up that part. If I really love the game and want to find more of the cool stuff then I'll refer to a walkthrough for these.

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Old Jun 25, 2006, 09:03 AM #25 of 60
For the most part, unless I am truly stuck, I don't use a walkthrough. On the first playthrough anyways. If I ever wanted to do a Master Game, I'd have a GameFAQs page right next to me and read it through. But Master games only come after the first playthrough anyway (at least for me) so there aren't any surprises, so to speak.

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