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Products of Creation Science
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LordsSword
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 02:51 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 01:51 PM 2 #1 of 270
Products of Creation Science

I just discovered the existance of creation museums but I dont have one in my state of Missouri.

http://www.icr.org/index.php?module=...iscover_museum

Has anyone ever been to one? Would you visit one?

What is your opinion on creation science?

Mine opinion is that even though the subject matter is touchy for many of us I am glad there are people who find ways to keep the debate alive. Stuff like this maintains the thrill of living through my book the bible.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 02:52 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 11:52 AM 2 #2 of 270
"Creation science" is nothing more than a euphemism for fundamentalist Christian rhetoric.

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Old Nov 12, 2007, 02:54 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 02:54 PM 1 #3 of 270
It isn't science.

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Old Nov 12, 2007, 02:55 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 02:55 PM 2 #4 of 270
What is your opinion on creation science?


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No. Hard Pass.
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 02:57 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 01:57 PM 3 #5 of 270
Creation isn't science. At all. I don't care how often the other side wants to claim it is.

Also, the bible isn't your book. You didn't write it. Neither did God or Jesus. Fuck off and die.

I was speaking idiomatically.


John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD.

LordsSword
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 03:32 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 02:32 PM #6 of 270
Your reply is the most imaginative. I actually laughed.

C'mon guys you have to be a little curious. I would go just to see if they made a hash of things or if they really have a viable argument.


Creation isn't science. At all. I don't care how often the other side wants to claim it is.

Also, the bible isn't your book. You didn't write it. Neither did God or Jesus. Fuck off and die.
I will let you in on a little secret. I am skeptical too.

The folks that tell you what science is dont have my unconditional support.
Why, cause I see the effect of their teaching in your words.
You are in effect becoming the feces throwing ape you are conditioned to believe you are.

I invite all of you to climb out of the primordial slime and wash yourself clean with this concept: We are created with the capacity for unparalleled intellectual interaction for the betterment of each other & our world.
Please folks lets play nice.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 03:34 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 01:34 PM 1 #7 of 270
I wasn't planning on visiting it until you brought it up, but after reading this review of the museum, I want to hit it up, just for the lulz:

Quote:
Near a portrait of Adolf Hitler, signs are titled" "Nazism and Communism - Fruits of Evolution," and "Racism: the Fruit of Evolution." Just before you hit the gift shop, you come upon "The Two Trees - Good Fruit and Bad Fruit." The healthy "Creationist Tree" bears ripe and many-colored fruit, and it's where one will find True Americanism, True Government, True History and True Science, to name a few.

"The Evolutionary Tree," a gnarled and twisted trunk with no leaves, bears the fruit of "Harmful Philosophies" and "Evil Practices" (promiscuity, genocide, homosexuality, bestiality, drug culture....).
See, see, because to stimulate a scientific debate, you gotta push your agenda, associate the other side with Nazis, and pit dueling trees against each other in your exhibits. Best museum ever already, right, guys?

How ya doing, buddy?
knkwzrd
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 03:43 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 02:43 PM 7 #8 of 270
Religion has no place in science and science has no place in religion. Be religious if you want, just don't pretend that perceived knowledge of a religion is tantamount to knowledge in any other field.

Sometimes I think all the world's problems could be solved if people knew how to recognize a fucking metaphor.

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LordsSword
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 03:52 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 02:52 PM #9 of 270
See, see, because to stimulate a scientific debate, you gotta push your agenda, associate the other side with Nazis, and pit dueling trees against each other in your exhibits. Best museum ever already, right, guys?
Ok, now we are geting somewhere. I didnt see a review thanks.

In their defence there are no rules on agenda pushing. We know the agenda of a place that talks about creation and really, are any of their statements untrue?

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Old Nov 12, 2007, 03:53 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 12:53 PM 1 #10 of 270
I invite all of you to climb out of the primordial slime and wash yourself clean with this concept: We are created with the capacity for unparalleled intellectual interaction for the betterment of each other & our world.
Please folks lets play nice.
We are vessels evolved to better pass on our DNA. Our lives are otherwise meaningless.

Deal with it.

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knkwzrd
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 04:01 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 03:01 PM #11 of 270
are any of their statements untrue?
Yes. That's the point of every post in this thread besides yours.

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Old Nov 12, 2007, 04:02 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 02:02 PM #12 of 270
In their defence there are no rules on agenda pushing. We know the agenda of a place that talks about creation and really, are any of their statements untrue?
Science, in its purest form, is free of agenda. That means waving SCIENCE around like a banner and then associating competing theories with moral depravity and genocide is, at best, hypocritical and completely cynical.

Besides. If the evidence for creation science was strong enough to stand on its own, there would be no need to manipulate the emotions of the visitors by invoking Nazism and bestiality, right~

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Old Nov 12, 2007, 04:23 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 03:23 PM 2 #13 of 270
We're not getting into it, LordSword, because it's been discussed here ad nauseum with a defender of your idiocy who was much more talented at it than you. And, you fucking moron, science never claims to be absolutely right. However, overwhelming evidence is overwhelming evidence. "because god said" is NOT overwhelming evidence. And neither is creation PHILOSOPHY about how extremely unlikely is equal to impossible.

You are, as always, not smart enough for us to waste actual conversation on. Go away.

I was speaking idiomatically.


John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD.

Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 04:23 PM 3 #14 of 270
The amusing part of this whole equation is that Creation "Science" conveniently discards many other branches of science in order to validate its thesis. Biology? Irrelevant. Archaeology? Unfounded. Geophysics? Rumormongers. Anthropology? Heresy.

Any field that attempts to use hearsay and folklore as its empyrical truth is as far removed from scientific method as it gets.

L. Ron Hubbard did more to bridge the gaps between science and faith than Creationists. This should tell you something.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 06:00 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 05:00 PM #15 of 270
Originally Posted by LordsSword
What is your opinion on creation science?
Science should not be made to change in order to accommodate religious wackos.

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Sarag
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Old Nov 12, 2007, 06:16 PM #16 of 270
As I understand it, creation science holds that there was a 'hydrosphere' that hovered above the atmosphere in the times before the great flood, so that is where all that water came from.

I don't know, sounds logical to me. Who knows how much water the atmosphere can hold?

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Old Nov 12, 2007, 06:19 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 03:19 PM #17 of 270
It also holds that a supreme being created in our image made this entire world in six days and happens to forget several billion years of history before then. Hmm.

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Old Nov 12, 2007, 06:25 PM #18 of 270
While I think it would be a great laugh to visit one of these museums, I wouldn't want to give these religious whack jobs more money to line their pockets with.

I'll continue to ignore them until they're starved out of attention and cash. Or, unless they decide to poke into my children's education or something of that nature.

(It's not a science. Science aims to hold no bias in study.)

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Old Nov 12, 2007, 06:32 PM 3 #19 of 270
I'd love to go to one.

I'd leave a giant fucking soft-serve Cleaveland Steamer right in the middle of the aisle.

"EVEN YOUR GOD CAN'T MIRACLE THIS AWAY, YOU CHRISTIAN BASTARDS"

Either than or go into the gift store and replace all the books with Nietzsche and Feuerbach.

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Old Nov 12, 2007, 07:18 PM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 07:18 PM 1 #20 of 270
Ok, now we are geting somewhere.
No, no 'we' are not.

Go peddle your christian "science" wares elsewhere. This is ridiculous.

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Old Nov 13, 2007, 12:09 AM Local time: Nov 12, 2007, 10:09 PM #21 of 270
But... but... WE RODE THEM.



I was speaking idiomatically.
Crash "Long-Winded Wrong Answer" Landon
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 01:36 AM 1 #22 of 270
FACT: The comic strip B.C. often depicted man and dinosaurs coexisting.

FACT: B.C.'s creator, Johnny Hart, was a devout Christian who often expressed his faith within the context of his own comic.

FACT: As a Christian, it was against Johnny Hart's beliefs to spread lies, especially lies against Christianity.

THESIS: As the comic strip was named "B.C.", or "Before Christ", it is logical to conclude that Christianity supports the existence of dinosaurs and, ipso facto, the theory of evolution during a period before the life of Jesus Christ - a direct contrast to the concept of Creationism.

CONCLUSION: LordsSword fails. LordsSword fails miserably.

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Sarag
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 10:27 AM #23 of 270
But... but... WE RODE THEM.

what the hell, that is the most retarded setup I ever saw. How the hell would a man sit on a saddle like that without falling into that wedge between the animal's back and bony neck-ridge? How would he steer?

lolling at the blanket, like that would make it moreo comfortable for the animal.

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Old Nov 13, 2007, 10:42 AM Local time: Nov 13, 2007, 11:42 PM #24 of 270
People steer elephants with their feet. I imagine you can do the same with a dinosaur.

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Sarag
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Old Nov 13, 2007, 10:59 AM #25 of 270
Those dudes must have huge feet.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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