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Old Sep 24, 2008, 11:35 AM #1 of 13
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Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Sep 8, 2008 6:15:06 EDT

The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”

The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they’ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones.

Stop-loss will not be in effect, so soldiers will be able to leave the Army or move to new assignments during the mission, and the operational tempo will be variable.

Don’t look for any extra time off, though. The at-home mission does not take the place of scheduled combat-zone deployments and will take place during the so-called dwell time a unit gets to reset and regenerate after a deployment.

The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.

In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it.

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
Source. There's more, feel free to peruse the full article. I'm fairly certain the most important part is in the headline though.

I don't want to be an alarmist, or read too much into something, but am I the only one who sees this as validation for the 2ed Amendment? That is to say, the prospect of the Army being trained in "crowd control" is absolutely terrfying to me, almost as much as the fact I haven't seen diddly about this on the news. Inundate me with campaign clips and talk of financial downfall, but feel free to leave out the bit about the Army being permanently deployed on US soil why doncha?

Sheesh.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Old Sep 24, 2008, 12:34 PM Local time: Sep 24, 2008, 12:34 PM #2 of 13
Why the concern ... unless you have something to hide?

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Old Sep 24, 2008, 08:41 PM #3 of 13
I read half of that article and asked myself, "why not national guardsmen?"

Does the rest of the article answer this question?

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Old Sep 24, 2008, 08:45 PM Local time: Sep 24, 2008, 07:45 PM #4 of 13
You think that's crazy? Check this bunch of people out.

www.ufopflc.info

Not really tinfoil hat, but fucking crazy.

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Old Sep 24, 2008, 09:17 PM #5 of 13
You think that's crazy? Check this bunch of people out.

www.ufopflc.info

Not really tinfoil hat, but fucking crazy.
I dunno. I kind of like the idea.

Guess I'm crazy. ;_;

But seriously, if I could do that, I would do that.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 24, 2008, 09:28 PM Local time: Sep 24, 2008, 08:28 PM #6 of 13
I dunno. I kind of like the idea.

Guess I'm crazy. ;_;

But seriously, if I could do that, I would do that.
Go read the rules section and tell me how much you agree with them, Massafrass.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?


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Old Sep 24, 2008, 09:50 PM #7 of 13
Go read the rules section and tell me how much you agree with them, Massafrass.
I was looking for rules and more information. I failed.

Now that I've read them, ahahahha, you're right. For everyone else (if they're interested):
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# We shall not have any form of currency passed among the members in the community
# Follow the law of chastity. This involves: no sex before marriage, no committing adultery, or watching porn.
# Follow the word of wisdom. This involves not to eat or drink anything that is bad for the body like: Alcohol, Tobacco, coffee or tea, illegal drugs, chemical induced or enhanced food or drinks, or other harmful or addictive substances.
# Respect your Elders, your neighbours, your wife/husband, and your self
# I shall not take any thing that does not belong to me.
# There is only one God Jesus Christ we worship so there will only be one church.
# I shall not commit murder.
I still think the idea is cool, you know, getting back to the land and shit. But that shouldn't include shoving shit down peoples' throats. (Though I doubt a society of fucking zealots up in northern Canada are really practicing chastity.)

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Old Sep 24, 2008, 10:31 PM Local time: Sep 24, 2008, 09:31 PM #8 of 13
O, it's a fantastic idea. My favourite part is how they say no currency, but then clearly plan to exchange goods and services. As currency.

:applause:

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Old Sep 25, 2008, 02:34 AM Local time: Sep 25, 2008, 02:34 AM #9 of 13
These guys should come in handy with the pending financial armageddon knocking at our doorstep.

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Old Sep 25, 2008, 02:36 AM Local time: Sep 25, 2008, 01:36 AM #10 of 13
I sort of want to wait like... six years after they've gotten set up, and then just go up and open a little buddhist temple that also sells sex, murder-for-hire and tea.

Just to fuck with the clergy, man. Xtreme.

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Old Sep 25, 2008, 11:23 AM #11 of 13
I read half of that article and asked myself, "why not national guardsmen?"

Does the rest of the article answer this question?
No, it doesn't. That's probably the most worrisome part of this; everything described as the active unit's mission is, supposedly, under the responsibilities of either the National Guard or other, non-military, goverment organisations and the like. The fact the Army is being tapped for this kind of thing is setting off warning bells in my head.

At least I know I can couch-surf in Canada for a decent period of time if the shit hits the fan.

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Old Sep 25, 2008, 11:30 AM 1 #12 of 13
I can't get too worked up about this

How many soldiers do we have left that aren't in Iraq?

Like eight, maybe?

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Old Sep 25, 2008, 06:55 PM Local time: Sep 25, 2008, 05:55 PM #13 of 13
Shit man, I wish that the Army ran things in my town. Things would be a hell of a lot nicer here, that's for sure.

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