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Old Oct 13, 2011, 05:24 PM Local time: Oct 13, 2011, 05:24 PM #1 of 73
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My political history is a little sketchy but didn't Roosevelt dismiss all elected officials in the House for exactly this issue we're dealing with today?
Wait what?!

While the powers of the presidency grew tremendously under Roosevelt, and continued growing from then to the present day, I'm pretty sure they haven't gotten to the tyrannical level represented by the ability to dismiss the House.

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Old Oct 14, 2011, 01:23 PM Local time: Oct 14, 2011, 01:23 PM #2 of 73
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I can tell you now that this whole movement thing has received exactly zero news coverage over here
That's not true. One of the defining images of this whole thing first showed up in the Daily Mail.

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Old Nov 15, 2011, 01:46 PM Local time: Nov 15, 2011, 01:46 PM 1 #3 of 73
I guess the question that is on my mind is does this signal a death knell of sorts for the movement?
No, but shit like this does.

Well, shit like that and all the crime and disease Occupy camps attract.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Nov 15, 2011, 06:50 PM Local time: Nov 15, 2011, 06:50 PM 1 #4 of 73
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The point is that it DOESN'T have clear goals, though.
Well, that's just stupid. If the movement doesn't have any clear goals and just exists as an unorganized mass to complain, all it's doing is inviting groups with goals and organization (like various strains of Communists and anarchists, who are currently aligned in their desire to destroy capitalism) to co-opt it for their own purposes.

If you don't want the Communist or anarchist agenda to become, de facto, the Occupy movement's agenda, Occupy needs to put forward one of its own. Just complaining isn't going to do anything, and letting the Black Bloc and the Reds be the face of the movement isn't going to make the general public more sympathetic.

It would also help to stop all the assaults and rapes. Seriously, that shit ain't cool.

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