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Old Oct 16, 2006, 12:30 AM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 06:30 PM #1 of 17
Problems in Photoshop

Alright. This has been pissing me off for far too long and I need a solution sometime soon.

Whenever I save a signature as (save for web) a jpeg, and open it again in photoshop, the background color is 141A4E instead of 14194E. If I save it as a PNG8, it turns into 10184A. It's also 10184A if saved as a gif.

Of course, I don't want to save it as a gif, because the quality will be shit. I want to know how I can save images as jpegs, which will be 14194E after I've saved them. Currently they're turning into 141A4E after being saved into jpegs.

I've installed the latest photoshop and it's still doing the same thing. Additionally, 14194E seems to work if I save in PNG24, but that's hopeless for large images because of the file size.

Also, there's nothing wrong with my current ava/sig set, but it looks misplaced in IE, but I suppose there's nothing that can be done about that.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 01:35 AM Local time: Oct 15, 2006, 11:35 PM #2 of 17
It changes because of the jpg compression. Same with gif and PNG8. PNG24 uses more colors, so your original color choices are preserved.

I don't think there's any way to have jpg save your original color choices. I just did a test of both saving methods using the maximum setting (lowest level of compression) and both yielded the same color after saving (141A4E)

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 03:14 AM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 09:14 PM #3 of 17
This is trash.

It sucks because I have next to know experience with actual transparancy and I don't want to end up using fuckin' gif. There's always a quality loss when you use transparancy.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 03:26 AM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 01:26 AM #4 of 17


256 colors, adaptive color palette. It's not really that bad. Not as good as the png, but...well you gotta take what you can get with gifs.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 03:35 AM #5 of 17
What version PS you using? I have no problems with colors using CS2.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Oct 16, 2006, 03:38 AM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 09:38 PM #6 of 17
Right now I'm using 9, previously I was using 8 and it happened with both of them.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Oct 16, 2006, 03:55 AM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 10:55 AM #7 of 17
Have you some weird kind of color management activated? And you do work in RGB right?

Sorry to ask such basic questions, but I haven't ever heard of this problem before.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 04:13 AM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 10:13 PM #8 of 17
Yes for RGB, no for the other thing.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 05:10 AM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 12:10 PM #9 of 17
Actually, I do have that problem, I only never knew about it. My sig is
141A4E too.
I can't tell the difference in any of my browsers though...
The GFF background-color may not be websafe? ='D

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 05:39 AM #10 of 17
Using Firefox, I see no obvious discoloration.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 10:49 AM Local time: Oct 17, 2006, 04:49 AM #11 of 17
Yeah well, it looks fine in firefox. But my current signatures are saved as PNG24's, which means having larger signatures would be pretty much impossible because of the file size they'd be.

I know it's possible to save jpg's as 14194e and have them stay that way, or at least I'm pretty sure it's possible. It's not my current ava/sig that's the problem, it's saving them in general.

Also, saving as a .gif results in the background changing into 141C4D, so, uh..

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 12:37 PM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 07:37 PM #12 of 17
I can save 14194E fine using PNG8, PNG24 and GIF, but yep, JPG will always turn it to 141A4E. The concequences of compression ~

Using Photoshop 7 4evar btw

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 12:45 PM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 07:45 PM #13 of 17
Originally Posted by Elixir
Also, saving as a .gif results in the background changing into 141C4D, so, uh..
But saving as gif would save you all the trouble, because you you could make it with no background at all.
I don't use it much anymore, but you can try and take a look at this ooold one:



Just have that single floating layer in your photoshop and save for web.
I haven't done anything in png yet, but I thought you could do the same thing here also..?

EDIT: For your purpose it's better yet:
"An image in a lossless PNG file can be 5%-25% more compressed than a GIF file of the same image. PNG builds on the idea of transparency in GIF images and allows the control of the degree of transparency, known as opacity. Saving, restoring and re-saving a PNG image will not degrade its quality. PNG does not support animation like GIF does."

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 02:00 PM Local time: Oct 17, 2006, 08:00 AM #14 of 17
Yeah. Well. I've been up for hours trying to figure this out, and there hasn't been a proper solution. I'd really like to know how others are saving/having jpg signatures with 14194E, because whatever I do compresses it into 141A4E, which is pretty annoying.

I'm too tired to mess around with gif at the moment. But I'll try it out when I wake up. I'm well aware transparancy also works for PNG8, but I'm pretty sure it's a worse quality than gif. I can't say for sure.

Anyway, I'll mess around with gifs later. Right now I can't seem to find a solution though.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Oct 16, 2006, 02:11 PM Local time: Oct 16, 2006, 09:11 PM #15 of 17
Originally Posted by Elixir
Yeah. Well. I've been up for hours trying to figure this out, and there hasn't been a proper solution. I'd really like to know how others are saving/having jpg signatures with 14194E, because whatever I do compresses it into 141A4E, which is pretty annoying.
Do you have a sample of a JPG having 14194E? =/

And PNG > GIF. Really.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 02:58 PM #16 of 17
PNG > ALL quality-wise
GIF > PNG compression-wise. Seriously.

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Old Oct 16, 2006, 05:58 PM #17 of 17
yes I have the same problem with sig, and yes it's because of the compression on .jpg when you reduce the size to 75kb oe less.

and for someone that make a lot of sig I can see the different in color and it's driving me nuts XD (like malmer I can se a little rectangle around your picture, yes it's really minimal and it's just because I'm use to it that I see it)

the thing I do is I put the good color and load the file and check the "new color" that it change too. If it change for a color darker than what it's suppose to be, then I put a color lighter before re-saving it till I get the color I want after the compression...

yes it's a lot of trouble XD but like I said it's driving me nuts when I see the rectangle of the blue background XD

but not most of the time, like you see I can see it a little on my sig now...but I really have to look hard to see it so it doesn't bother me that much XD

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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