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Old Apr 5, 2006, 10:56 AM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 04:56 PM #1 of 70
Apple's Boot Camp

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

So what do you think? Will this be the smartest move Apple ever made?

I think it's really smart. Apple does it all (almost, at least.) Switching has never been easier.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 11:19 AM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 10:19 AM #2 of 70
That looks to me like it would be something more geared towards people who have always used Macs to be able to get some experience in Windows before moving completely to a PC. That of course makes little sense.

Wait, no, that makes perfect sense. People will start buying Apple computers and installing Windows on them. Sucks to be osx~

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 11:57 AM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 09:57 AM #3 of 70
Frankly it's surprising, but it makes sense. If using Windows XP on a Mac would get more Mac users, then I guess Apple's all for it.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 12:23 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 10:23 AM #4 of 70
I've been waiting a long time for this to happen. I think it's unanimous that Mac hardware is probobly the most beautiful inside and out, but switching to MAC OS isn't something I, and probobly many others, where not interested in.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 12:35 PM #5 of 70
Considering that enthusiasts already got Windows XP to work on iMacs, this isn't really all that surprising.

Mind as well give everyone the easy solution.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 12:49 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 06:49 PM #6 of 70
which is exactly what apple wants. They don't like people fiddling about with their hardware, using it inappropriately. If I was still actively using my windows PC, this event might have pushed me to the Apple side. Fortunately for me I fell for Apple last summer when I was finally able to afford the insanely expensive Ipod... Later on I buyed my first Apple powerbook. I can't possibly imagine ever buying a windows PC ever again, now that boot camp has been introduced. I think many others will feel the same way.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 12:52 PM #7 of 70
The importance of this is that unlike the hacked solution, this provides full driver support.

And the target audience is most likely those who have a Mac, and like OSX, but need to run a Windows application or two. And for those that want to play Windows only games, no longer have to buy a whole new machine just to get in a few games.

It's great, and I'd be a heck of a lot more interested in it if they had a mid-range headless Mac.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 12:56 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 06:56 PM #8 of 70
Why headless? The Apple monitors are top of the line.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 01:08 PM #9 of 70
I think this is a great move... Now any tightass PC users who are too afraid to switch over will have less trouble doing that.

Use Mac OS for a stable, working environment for every task you have, use WinXP for games. I'm sold.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 02:48 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 03:48 PM #10 of 70
Finally.
Now all I need to do is save up a couple years worth of funds, and I will actually be able to take advantage of this.
Seriously, Mac should work more on trying to decrease the costs of their hardware.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 02:49 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 11:49 AM #11 of 70
So could someone explain the reason to buy Apple at 4 times the cost of a Wintel machine? You know if MacOS runs on a Intel iBook, it's going to work the other way around.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 03:33 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 01:33 PM #12 of 70
Originally Posted by Fjordor
Finally.
Now all I need to do is save up a couple years worth of funds, and I will actually be able to take advantage of this.
Seriously, Mac should work more on trying to decrease the costs of their hardware.
Since they pretty much design and sell everything without 3rd party help, I don't see a price drop happening any time soon.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 04:40 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 10:40 PM #13 of 70
There shouldn't be a price drop. What they offer is of supreme quality, and quality costs money. Pay and enjoy, or don't pay and get stuck in the world of Windows.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 04:44 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 10:44 PM #14 of 70
Well uhh I dunno but Apple just gave up everything that made them special. What a fucking shit is that, I mean it's good for the fucking company, they will sell like 500% more computers now, but uhh, it's a tragic day for all hardcore fans. Oh well.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 04:47 PM #15 of 70
Originally Posted by MagicalVacation
There shouldn't be a price drop. What they offer is of supreme quality, and quality costs money. Pay and enjoy, or don't pay and get stuck in the world of Windows.
You seem to forget that Linux is just fine for some people. Granted, a considerably smaller number than Windows or OSX...

Don't get me wrong, I have few problems with Macs. (One being their tremendously short half-life. Also, unfortunately, the price range for good/better Macs is still somewhat inaccessible for some.)

Relating more to the topic, it is good that Apple has decided to give its users the easy route to running XP on their Mac. I wonder how long it will be until OSX works on PCs...

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 04:48 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 10:48 PM #16 of 70
Originally Posted by Snowknight
Relating more to the topic, it is good that Apple has decided to give its users the easy route to running XP on their Mac. I wonder how long it will be until OSX works on PCs...
Why the freaking fuck would anyone prefer OSX over Windows (even Windows 95)

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 04:49 PM #17 of 70
Originally Posted by Musharraf
Why the freaking fuck would anyone prefer OSX over Windows (even Windows 95)
In many aspects, OSX is--for some, anyway--easier to learn.
Maybe it... looks friendlier?
(I'm really hoping that this won't turn into an OS war now ;_; )

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 04:49 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 11:49 PM #18 of 70
Wow, this is nice news. Hoever, I have no idea how Macs look like from the inside - do they have powerful graphical cards?

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 04:50 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 10:50 PM #19 of 70
Originally Posted by Snowknight
In many aspects, OSX is--for some, anyway--easier to learn.
Maybe it... looks friendlier?
Well it's not like Windows welcomes you with a message like "hey you cocksucker which virus do you want today?"

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 04:51 PM #20 of 70
Originally Posted by Grawl
Wow, this is nice news. Hoever, I have no idea how Macs look like from the inside - do they have powerful graphical cards?
You can certainly purchase one when customizing a Mac upon ordering. (We had to for my school.)
I believe that, for example, the MacBook Pros come with an ATI Mobility X1600.

Originally Posted by Musharraf
Well it's not like Windows welcomes you with a message like "hey you cocksucker which virus do you want today?"
No, it's not.
I suppose that, for another group of people, OSX feels much smoother. (The eye candy, perhaps.)
Maybe someone who actually owns a Mac could answer this without causing a flame war. (I can only tell of what I hear users--mainly at school--say about it.)

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 05:21 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 11:21 PM #21 of 70
Well, unless you've actually USED a mac with OSX, you can't really get deeper into this...

Once you've worked with OSX for about two weeks, you know why you'll never go back to Windows.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 06:29 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 03:29 PM #22 of 70
I think this isn't too bad, as long as XP doesn't run more slowly than it would on a similairly priced non-apple machine. I'm a bit skeptical however; when operating systems are emulated (VMware), the performance goes downhill. This is becuase not only does the computer have to process the emulated OS, but it has to process it`s own commands simultaneously. Unless Apple has somehow allowed XP to function independantly, I don`t think It will go over that well.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 06:31 PM Local time: Apr 6, 2006, 01:31 AM #23 of 70
Originally Posted by Musharraf
Well it's not like Windows welcomes you with a message like "hey you cocksucker which virus do you want today?"
Did you know that Search is called Find on OSX?

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 06:59 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 04:59 PM #24 of 70
Now all we need are Macs equipped with windows to be standard.

Who needs MAC OS, it's all upside down anyway.

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Old Apr 5, 2006, 08:08 PM Local time: Apr 5, 2006, 07:08 PM #25 of 70
I'd rather be able to install OSX on my PC. Much more convenient, considering the hardware costs.

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