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Anyway, the trailer is just... underwhelming. Spoiler:
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
Last edited by Final Fantasy Phoneteen; Mar 19, 2008 at 12:06 PM.
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So I may have miss this up until now but uh Evokers = glasses now? If so...ahahaha!
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I really don't know what all the fuss is about. Persona 3 did exceptionally well so they are releasing Persona 4 which looks similar (due to using the same engine). Since Persona 3 did well, why go out of the way to make Persona 4 and risk killing the franchise. Going from Persona 2 to Persona 3 was in itself a pretty big risk to accomplish, hence why not ride on Persona 3's success and have Persona 4 be similar?
Heck, here is a good example of what happens when a franchise is changed just a bit: Seiken Denetsu= Started out pretty solid and then mutilated with several changes by Square Enix after Seiken Denetsu 3 till Dawn of Mana (instead of boosting up levels, how about the player goes back to lvl 1 yay!) Seriously, if Persona 3 did so well, why bother changing the format? I was speaking idiomatically. |
Seiken Densetsu sucks because of shoddy design; not because they tried to change anything. Shit, look at the more recent games-- they've been doing the best they can to replicate Secret of Mana in look and feel. The only decent Mana game to've come out lately, Heroes of Mana, is an RTS. So, change has no correlation with quality.
Using a new graphics engine is in no way "risking" the franchise nor is it changing the format, unless they decided to take it in a markedly new direction like a kid's game about learning the alphabet (O is for Orpheus!). I never said I'm surprised that they're going to attempt to run the series into the fucking ground. I just said I'm kind of disappointed. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
Last edited by Final Fantasy Phoneteen; Mar 19, 2008 at 11:34 PM.
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BTW, I think the glasses just lets them see the monsters. I doesn't seem like they're whipping them out, saying a little something, and BAM Persona. FELIPE NO The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
I think the point is they shouldn't have made a game so close to it in the first place. They could have extended development time and made a higher quality product but they chose to release it in rapid succession for sales purposes. (with FES inbetween for good measure...) A good business move obviously, but it *is* disappointing to those who don't fall into the hype of it all.
Glasses aren't the evokers either apparently, it's the cards they carry with them. Someone pointed this out at another forum and after re-watching the trailer I'm inclined to agree with it. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Personally, I think people were expecting a little too much to come from this title. Jam it back in, in the dark. The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
I see hype for it everywhere is why I brought that up. That anyone who announces even the slightest disappointment is pretty much crucified on the spot for not orgasming over the prospect of the game. I guess I can't explain well what I'm trying to say here, but basically Persona 3 is still fresh in a lot of people's minds and they are taking advantage of that by offering a game incredibly similar.
I don't have any problem with the same team making the game, nor does it even bother me that they are using the same engine (many games do this, but they at least heavily tweak it in the process); the problem here comes from the fact that the game looks nigh on identical, visual-wise and gameplay-wise. I mean, IDENTICAL; as in you'd think this was just an add-on like Aegis' after-game quest in FES. It *screams* quick cash-in which, of course, disappoints me. I mean, if you look closely at the video Igor sports the same portrait they used in Persona 3. They could have at least re-drawn the guy. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
However, if a third game rolls around and after two years (or more) of development it's little more than the last game with a graphics improvement, then you'd have a damn good reason to be upset.
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
I really enjoyed the look of P3, so seeing another take on the same style doesn't bother me at all. What I'm afraid of is everything that could have used some improvement in the last one remaining static. Not necessarily carrying over, just no steps shown towards improvement. Ally ai will probably still be flimsy. No depth added to social links. Arbitrary barriers in the dungeon that associate to in game time and events. Repetitive goals. Bloated playtime that has too little happening in too long a span of time.
Despite the above, I really did enjoy P3, swear to god, but I found it far from perfect and more like a good start. Touched on an idea that could be done better with a magnificent result. And I know we know hardly anything about the game still, but it's just a hunch that these things will be largely left alone. Another point that makes me a bit trepidacious is that I probably powered through P3 almost more for the particular charm of that title's style, setting, cast and the interaction between them. Whether or not that can be recaptured or done to equal effect, I'm weary on. I already like less the whole pumpkin orange color theme and in general what's been shown so far looks less vibrant in many respects. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? so they may learn the glorious craft of acting from the dear leader |
Then again, the multiple endings is a good sign, so I may be jumping to conclusions. Either way, we won't know until the game comes out. I was speaking idiomatically. |
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
And hell, if it's an "encore" game it might still be fantastic. I'll still buy it. FELIPE NO |
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? so they may learn the glorious craft of acting from the dear leader |
Persona 4 looks great. Persona 3 is my favourite modern RPG, not because of the story, characters or gameplay as such, but rather due to the overall mood, and it seems that Persona 4 will retain that. And the Japanese small-town setting is exactly what the game needs. It looks like Shenmue I. Great by that association alone.
In conclusion: Game of the Year 2009. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
I caved and checked out part of that video, mostly to listen to the music... I was curious if they changed the music to reflect the smaller town. I'm not sure what I think of the music, it sounds really similar, and I really associate that sound with a big city, it's really urban. I'm hoping that a couple tracks give a more "country" feel, maybe with some guitar or more analog drums or so... Anyway, watching that video made me kinda hyped for P4 as well, haha. BRING IT ON! To make this post a bit less of a senseless rant, here's the first fanart that I found of P4, I really like it: Spoiler:
There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Hmmm... The game has caught my attention. Looks like there are 3 more characters whose names they haven't released yet. The singer girl, the guy with the skull on his shirt and the kid with the hat. I wonder if there would also be an animal (O.o). Oh wait I think its the panda/bear thing. The new characters are shown in this movie
I think the movie can be downloaded at the p4 site but..My download wouldn't start. About Igor..I think his picture is almost the same as his pic in Persona 2 (except for the irises). I am sad though that the rest of the Velvet Room people are absent. I distinctly remember Belladona. Now it not even a Velvet Room..its more of a Velvet Limo lol. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. from the makers of Death Note!! Bakuman. Am happy..because AgitoXIII and Parasite Eve 3 is a comin to the PSP!! |
Here is more on the guy with the skull on his shirt for those who are curious:
Name: Tatsumi Kanji Persona: Takemikatzuki (personally I like the design) http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/919...8368352yd6.jpg http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/248...8439563wt9.jpg I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Why hello there.
Spoiler:
Secret: It is a very large jpeg. I was speaking idiomatically. |
July 10th, eh? So we'll probably be seeing this sometime next year then if we're lucky! Honestly, I still think it is too early to get another persona game. They should wait at least another year or two and put it on the PS3.
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
FELIPE NO |
I applaud NIS for using 2D graphics and sprites on the PS3. We don't need every game to look like a next gen first person shooter or Metal Gear Solid 4.
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
On one hand, I'm glad that they are announcing a new Persona game, but on the other hand I'm a bit worried. The time between 2 and 3 (and Fes) was long enough to create something fresh and original, instead of just making a few changes to the second game, and with the release of yet another game, I fear that some of the creativity and originality will be lost, just to be able to ride on the success of the third game.
Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Most amazing jew boots The text is part of the image and the two squires aren't exactly even. |
WOW super awesome... why haven't I heard about this???? Grrrr and I thought I was up to date with RPGs >....<
Similar art and setting (love it) - hmmm is there any indication whether a North American release is underway or considered? This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. ^By Auro from the FFXII board... Thanks ^^ |