[General Discussion] ...That was it?

Star Ocean 3 was so lucky it had such stellar gameplay or I would have never touched it again after that horrible twist. I'm sure pretty much anyone who continued after it felt the same way though.

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I quit the game when that plot twist happened. I was so pissed you wouldn't believe it. What a copout!

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Originally Posted by Forsety

Star Ocean 3 was so lucky it had such stellar gameplay or I would have never touched it again after that horrible twist. I'm sure pretty much anyone who continued after it felt the same way though.

You mean, forcing ourselves to continue for completion purposes?

I'm one, but I'm in no great hurry.

The idea behind the plot twist was nice, but it never should have been done. The message the game was trying to convey could have been done differently.

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I stopped playing SO3 after the twist. I really couldn't face an entire disc more of the game if that was the kind of idea they were coming up with.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Leknaat

Don't you mean "contrived?" It would have been nice if things were left up in the air--you know?

In a sense, yes...but in a realistic sense, I was exaggerating. I can get carried away when it comes to Final Fantasy and exaggeration. (The plots seem exaggerated some of the time, anyway...I've been influenced!)

Originally Posted by Leknaat

And if Necros never existed.

Ah, yes. In a good world, it wouldn't have existed. But alas...

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Originally Posted by Shin

I stopped playing SO3 after the twist. I really couldn't face an entire disc more of the game if that was the kind of idea they were coming up with.

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I think the whole idea of "People who think they are Gods call themselves 'The Creators'" was a much better idea to go with. Instead of--Oh, by the way--you aren't real, you're a program in a huge video game. Then turning into a giant cosplay thing later on....

I'd rather fight a megalomaniac who THINKS he can control lide, rather than some computer programmer.

Muzza--FF plots exaggerated--surely you jest.....

But, come on, you have to admit, with FFIX "What happened to Zidane?" would have been much better than what we got.

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Uh-huh, I jest. Just satirizing my sense of exaggeration. And I agree whole-heartedly regarding the Zidane thing. But that would have never --and never will- happen, specifically in a FF game, when the main character is concerned. Can you imagine the tumult that would transpire on FF-fan-forums? Catastrophic.

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While there are worse examples which have already been mentioned in this thread, Chrono Cross definitely comes to mind. The game had a decent buildup, a fairly challenging second-to-last boss (which could have very well been the last boss)...

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and then they just randomly decide to throw in the whole "Lavos is still alive kinda sorta and you have to save the girl or else you get no ending!"

Honestly, that just kinda made me go...why? It had virtually nothing to do with the plot, and on top of that, it was an INCREDIBLY easy boss. After I beat the game and started a New Game+, I managed to go back and beat him using Serge alone. It's pretty sad that you can defeat what should be the most difficult enemy in the game with a single character...hell, they might as well have just forced you to only use Serge in the battle by default. And while the "real" ending at least somewhat wrapped everything up, it still felt like a letdown.

Oh, and actually going back to the topic creator's point about FFX, wasn't the auto-life thing because of the Faith? At some point earlier in the game, one of them tells you that when you finally do face Yu Yevon that they would be helping you, and I think Yuna even mentions that she wondered what he meant after that, so I assumed they were responsible for the whole invulnerability thing.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

To be fair, You can do that in Chrono Trigger too.

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SO3 actually had me playing for most of the game and enjoying it up until the big plot spoiler.

Tales of Legendia was somewhat similar, but not exactly the worst. Just that the ending was soooo drawn out was essentially the worst part IMO. And EVERYONE had to put in their own two cents. Repeatedly.

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Definately gotta agree with the others, that Star Ocean 3's infamous plot twist got to me.

If Star Ocean 3 was a stand-alone game, then I wouldn't have mind it so much, but unfortunately the games are connected, as pathetic as those connections are. Since it pretty much means that the first two games were just a joke. It didn't mean anything at all.

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