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[Movie] WWE/TNA fanfiction thread
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Old Sep 20, 2006, 04:40 PM #651 of 3609
DDP has already in TNA though, as much as I love him, I hope for something bigger concidering Dixie's statement. This better not be a let down...

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 10:28 PM #652 of 3609
Seems The Boogeyman got released, check the link below
http://www.wrestling4life.com/

Not that he was a good wrestler, but he had a great gimmick.
Its pretty insane to go from squashing booker t at wrestlemania to being released the same year =/

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 10:35 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 08:35 PM #653 of 3609
Booker T AND JBL

I blame Johnny Ace...

Future WWE

--Someone has an affair with a worm, the boogeyman comes back claiming that it was Johnny Ace who released him over the phone. Boogeyman has a fued with the person, loses a contract laddermatch, is forced to the other brand and starts getting beat by like...Rob Conway. oh wait...nvm

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 11:42 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 11:42 PM #654 of 3609
All of the extremely gimmicky type wrestlers have failed getting over now for a long time because of polololololitcal correctness. Hassan fell victim. Kerwin White didn't last very long. No one refers to Mark Henry as Sexual Chocolate anymore. Val Venis is still Val Venis and not "Big Valbowski" anymore. Boogeyman was no exception really.

Though I will admit, it's shocking to have someone like Tatanka still employed over Boogeyman. WWE logic fails anew.

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Old Sep 21, 2006, 01:38 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 11:38 PM #655 of 3609
Unlike Boogeyman, Tatanka actually knows how to work and crap

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Old Sep 21, 2006, 02:19 AM Local time: Sep 21, 2006, 02:19 AM #656 of 3609
So do most of the younger and unpushed talent, of course. That's the fatal flaw in the system.

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Old Sep 21, 2006, 07:02 AM #657 of 3609
I'll miss his entrance. That crazy walk of his. Conway huh... don't know why Vince made him a lolrob so fast. He was undefeated for a bit with his Buff Bagwell inpersonation.

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Old Sep 21, 2006, 07:22 AM #658 of 3609
Since this is the only wrestling thread...a slight detour, but did anyone ever watch the CM Punk VS Austin Aeris World title match? Wow, talk about emotion.

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Old Sep 21, 2006, 02:23 PM Local time: Sep 21, 2006, 02:23 PM #659 of 3609
Most ROH matches have that level of emotion to them, one I remember in particular was Colt Cabana vs. Homicide in a Chicago Street Fight for what was the final match of their long as hell feud. Believe that match was at Better Than Our Best 2006 for ROH.

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Old Sep 21, 2006, 04:53 PM #660 of 3609
loooooooooooooooooooooooool

2 Cold Scorpio signed with WWE

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Old Sep 21, 2006, 05:27 PM Local time: Sep 21, 2006, 05:27 PM #661 of 3609
Ladies and gentlemen, TNA is completely fucked now.

The big announcement is none other than Vince Russo, the legendary promotion destroyer, going back to TNA to take creative control.

ROH is the last bastion of decency.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 12:12 AM #662 of 3609
^actually, theyre saying its not vince, and to be honest, I dont know who he is =/. I was out of the loop about 3-4 years ago when my interest in wrestling cameback afterwards.
Anyway, to kill low ratings, theyre making a huge hype about this.

I have to wonder though, is TNA a threat to wwe? From what Ive read on both sides of the spectrum, its been yes and no. Right now from what I see, TNA is taking a nose dive to puke quality. Its been a wwe imitation, I started watching cause a bunch of people told me it was more wrestling oriented. All its becoming is predictable matches, one sided beatdowns and plots that go nowhere. Theres hardly any decent matches in there now.
And why the hell is joe facing jarrett? Its retarded and it doesnt matter.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 01:02 AM #663 of 3609
Vince Russo was part of the team that hurded in the attitude era in the late nineties and 2000.

Russo then left WWE/F in hopes to solidify his reputation as the ONE who put pro wrestling back on the map AND basically save the WWE/F from what was looking like in 96/97 to be certain death. He then went to WCW, and did some of the craziest things. The first was, he put himself and Ed Ferrera on TV as the "Powers That Be", some all-knowing, all-powerful entities. It failed. They also had some bewildering events such as turning a freshly-turned Heel Goldberg back to a face (which was bewildering as one month earlier Goldberg had seemingly sided with him, and then the next Russo was saying he didn't like Goldberg), turning Sting Heel (which failed miserably), and having Hogan for no reason just lay down for Sting.
They managed to disgrace the Cruiserweight title. First, the title was held by Madusa, whom, while was a decent wrestler, was half-retired and had no business holding the most valued strap in the company (yes, above the world title). Then, they had her job to Oklahoma...a JR rip off for the Cruiserwight title.

For whatever reason, he had Scott Hall throw the TV title into a dumpster. HE also had Chavo become some sort of salesman, and Duggan cleaning toliets. Don't worry though, they brought the TV title back, after Duggan found it in a dumpster. True story.

If that wasn't bad enough, the managed to cripple the world title line, right when it DIDN'T need to be crippled. The world title was vacanted in November of 99, only for Bret to win it. Bret then had to end his career due to his match with Goldberg (which had the bewildering finish of Piper ending the match for no real reason. I don't think Piper ever did explain that), and furthered that by having the injured (but at the time, no one knew what extent it was) Hart come back together with Hall and Nash to create the NWO for the fourth time. Anyway, Bret had to vacate the title because of his injury, only for Benoit to win the strap. Now, the next part isn't his fault, but Benoit left, in which they vacated the poor belt again, only for Sid to win it. Almost. Nash vacated the strap YET AGAIN, only for Sid to beat him and someone else for the belt. Again. Then things seemed to settle down when, wait a second, Russo is back again and be vacates ALL the straps yet, which includes the world title yet AGAIN. That means the world title had almost as many vacancies in the last six months as it had ACTUAL CHAMPIONS.

But what champions there were. Jarrett, Booker T, David Arquette. What? In what had to be the final blow to the title, an ACTOR won the world title. This crippled morale (as if there wasn't a problem already), and made the world title worth nothing more but a piece of tin. Oh yeah, he also booked himself to win the title. In a cage match. WIth Booker T, who by this time was the only, truly, built up champion they could have after Hogan and Flair's reputations were tarnished ( see below). Oh, and there were title changes. Many of them. Jarrett managed to become a three time champ within just two or three months. Also, remember Booker T's thing of "five time" WCW world champion? Well, WCW closed in March of 2001 and he won his first world title in July of 2000. You can do the logic on that one.

More, at the time of the massive stripping of the belts, he decided to have the Millionare's Club VS the New Blood, as suddently and without real explanation, guys who were feuding with each other one week prior were now buddy~buddy. Don't worry though, this did not last. Within the first week, Booker T left the group, and soon many others did as well, making the entire angle worthless within two months.

During this time, he also managed to tarnish the legacies of Hogan and Flair. It was obvious with Hogan, as he stuck Hogan in a feud with Kidman. Not a bad idea, except Kidman looked bad in the victories he got (constant interference, help from Russo, etc). Eventually, Hogan won, and Kidman, who DID have some victories against him, lost the next time in Viagra in a pole match.

ANyway, back to Hogan. Come Bash at the beach, he basically ripped Hogan apart, had Jarrett (who was champion by now) lay down for him, and award him the title as some sort of "retirement" title. He then basically retired Hogan.

As for Flair, he had some sort of crazy set of ideas for him. The first was to turn his son against him. Then have his son basically grab his mother and sister to force Flair into a match. Flair lost it, and had his head shaved. Also, for whatever reason, they spilled red "blood" over him. By the way, Flair is a 16 time world champion. Who did he beat for his final world title?
a.) Jeff Jarrett
b.) Booker T
c.) Bill Goldberg
d.) Sting

If you guessed any of those, you are wrong. Flair won the strap from Jarrett, got hurt, and then instead of waiting one week for Flair to recover, they gave the title back the next week to Jarrett, who lost it to Nash that night. Nash then handed the title back to Flair the next week, whom promptly lost it. Yes, Ric Flair did NOT win his final world title. It was handed to him. Blah.

Goldberg's career was killed by Russo too. More or less he had Goldberg had to break his winning streak or leave WCW. An idiotic angle with a loss-loss outcome. either fans had to watch Goldberg win 186 matches, or have him, even somewhat tarnished now thanks to all that had gone down but still popular, leave WCW. He lost and left WCW. He lost to Luger and left WCW. He and his coach, the man who trained him, lost to Luger and I think Bagwell, and Goldberg left WCW.

Then there was Steiner, whom I think Russo pushed simply because Steiner would have pounded him down if he had not. Seriously. However, Russo was soon gone, but Steiner was not. I will say that Steiner at least had a lengthy reign and the idea of him taking out all the faces until an eventual showdown by one last heroic face against, was appealing. However, by this time, WCW was basically done with.

Russo didn't kill WCW. He contributed greatly to it's demise, but he isn't the single person who did it. It was due to a variety of issues. Nonetheless, after this happened, Russo has had a very bad stigma on him. He went back to the WWE for about a week, before leaving again (he was unable to get along with those there...and given the things he said, no wonder). He also had some time in NWA/TNA, in which he initially was in a series of angles that gave a more R or M rating to the show and gave it the feeling of WCW on it's last days (which is what they want to AVOID). So, with all of this, there is fairly good reason to be concern about Russo...

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 01:38 AM #664 of 3609
Well apparantly, the big announcment is not Russo, but he IS now a part of the booking team. He's replacing Mike Tenay, and Scott D'Amore...

So now we have:

Vince Russo
Jeff Jarrett
Dutch Mantel

as the booking team for TNA. While i'm not too fond of the idea, I kinda look forward to what's gonna happen...

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 03:19 AM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 03:19 AM #665 of 3609
When I first announced it, that was the plan, but I guess now they are either saving face by delivering a new plan or perhaps I was mistaken. Who knows.

Either way, Russo better not run the company into the ground now that he has clout again.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 10:08 AM #666 of 3609
Well I heard that not too long ago he "found god" so maybe he changed his ways a bit.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 03:10 PM #667 of 3609
Mortis, that post was a blast from the past @_@ and all true. It's good that the old WCW title is now more in check and is actually being around someone's waist.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 04:02 PM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 04:02 PM #668 of 3609
They don't even recognize it as the "old WCW title" anymore.. it's official title history at WWE.com clearly indicates that Triple H was the first one to hold that title after it was handed to him by Bischoff.

The new lineage of the belt is pretty much bent and tainted, much like the belt itself is today.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 07:01 PM #669 of 3609
The old Raw/Heavyweight title (that is now moved to Smackdown!) was the old WCW title.

The Smackdown! tag team titles were initially the WCW tag team titles.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Sep 22, 2006, 08:08 PM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 08:08 PM #670 of 3609
You say this as if you think I had absolutely no idea that was true. Regardless of what they "initially were" I'm telling you what they are currently recognized (or not recognized) as.

Goldberg's "winning streak" was not ended by Luger. It ended in a match against Kevin Nash at Starrcade 1998 when Scott Hall used the infamous taser on Goldberg which allowed Nash to get the powerbomb and the victory. There was a new winning streak, which is the one you were talking about, but he went through that in order to deal with problems on his shoulder. It had nothing to do with killing his career, since obviously when he appeared in the WWE people more than ever chanted the Goldberg chant.

Also concerning your logic of David Arquette with the title, do you not realize that EVERY wrestler is an actor? If they brought me in and told me I would win the title for a little while, the LAST THING I would do would be argue that I'm "not a wrestler" and just not do it. To be able to be the one raising your hand after the 1-2-3 with the big gold belt in your hand is certainly not a travesty in the least. Sure, he wasn't a wrestler. Sure, he was only there for a short time. You have to realize however that such events add much needed fire to the unpredictability rating. Even with Russo in the company, that still kept people watching.

I assure you I know my history and facts well, so there's no need to think I don't know something about the industry.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 08:20 PM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 07:20 PM #671 of 3609
Some person earlier asked why Joe is facing Jarrett... This is for 3 main reasons.
1. Fans
The fans hate Jeff Jarrett, and they do not want to see him holding the belt for a long time, unfortuantly all the match does is provide temporary satisfaction, seeing Jarrett get his ass beat.
2. Cash
Would people pay to see Jarrett get his butt whipped? Like it or not, they would...
3. Possible Storylines
Joe vs Jarrett for the Title? Just a possibility for a match later.

Also, for another fact, the US Title is also the WCW US Title!

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 09:27 PM #672 of 3609
Well next week on Smackdown history will be made. RAW Champion and Smackdown Champion will meet in the same ring. 6 man tag style; I'm real sick of 6 man tags, they're so boring. This could be the thing that sets the end to the brand split in motion.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 09:29 PM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 08:29 PM #673 of 3609
Or it could screw the whole thing up...
There's always that chance.

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 09:45 PM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 07:45 PM #674 of 3609
In reality, the old WCW title died when WCW was bought, it was used as a toy during the Invasion Angle.

Now, the World Heavyweight Title looks the same as the WCW title but not the same...cause hell...I've seen in PNW wrestling The Blue Meanie having a belt that looks like it too...no joke

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Old Sep 22, 2006, 09:49 PM Local time: Sep 22, 2006, 08:49 PM #675 of 3609
Heh.... The Blue Meanie, are you serious? Anyways that doesn't completely surprise me...

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