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[:plant:] The GFF Game Club [Now Playing: Max Payne] Now with less spoiler tags
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Old Mar 30, 2010, 01:23 AM Local time: Mar 29, 2010, 11:23 PM #201 of 235
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Old Mar 30, 2010, 12:51 PM Local time: Mar 31, 2010, 03:51 AM #202 of 235
Terror From the Deep is technically harder but UFO on anything above average difficulty is hard as fuck. The new game I started yesterday was on the second difficulty up from the bottom and after 4 months (Of a game that generally runs to three years for a winning game) I'm already having to either save every turn or pick my fights better. The main problem is that research takes that much longer and until you get laser rifles and some armour, your team are walking funerals.

When TFTD was made, it was based on an early version of UFO that was bugged to play every skill level as beginner, so they ramped the difficulty up based on how hard UFO's Impossible mode was, but with it actually playing as beginner. As such, playing with anything above easy skill in TFTD requires advanced knowledge of the game and a shit ton of luck.

It is an amazing game though and if Ikaruga can be considered an approachable game, then I reckon people could cope with UFO. The trick really is just not become too attached to your soldiers...
Thought I might chip in on this considering I've been playing this a fair amount very recently and am actually pretty close to finishing it for my first time. I personally found it to be insanely hard until I was more familiar with the game mechanics. The psionics/molecular control mechanics in particular are really overpowered (both fighting against and with) in my opinion. Pretty awesome game though, I've only really begun to appreciate the strategic & tactical depth in my recent playing.

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1) Buy about 10-20 electro flares right off the bat, and avoid night missions like the plague until they arrive. (You might want to keep avoiding these non-terror night missions anyhow)
2) Save about 30-40 action points for soldiers covering areas you haven't secured. Getting them to end their turns kneeling is also generally a good idea.
3) Never send lone soldiers to scout/clear areas unless absolutely necessary. (Groups of about 2-4)
4) Researching Laser Weapons -> Laser Pistols -> Laser Rifles off the bat is a really really good way to start your research & manufacturing.


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Old Mar 30, 2010, 02:44 PM Local time: Mar 30, 2010, 08:44 PM #203 of 235
To expand on that, if you're doing a night mission it makes sense to put the flare in the left hand of the two people first off the drop ship so they don't waste APs getting it out to throw it. Also, it's often worth chucking a couple of smoke grenades out of the drop ship before you leave, especially on terror missions where there are likely to be a few aliens watching you land.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 11:39 AM Local time: Mar 31, 2010, 04:39 PM #204 of 235
If anyone else is interested in voting you have a few hours left to do so, so get on that.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 04:17 PM #205 of 235
Sorry about that, Tails. I meant to get with you on Ikaruga the other day.

I haven't gotten around to get to play this but I recall seeing a video of some dude using two fighters with both hands on the keyboard (not sure if its two keyboards) but watching him beat it with SSS rank was insanity. But massive props and pretty awesome to watch. Synchronicity and all that.

Anyway, can't wait to see what's the vote will be for this month. I'm willing to go for Machinarium or Yakuza 2 action.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 04:18 PM Local time: Mar 31, 2010, 09:18 PM #206 of 235
Right, the votes are in and the game for this month is:



Max Payne

I'll set another month on it, so we'll say the end date for this one is 30th April. If you don't have the game you can pick it up on Steam here: Max Payne on Steam. It was also released on Mac (no idea if that still works though). Used copies can also be had on original Xbox and PS2.

Also, a quick change to the rules: open discussion is allowed for the entire duration of play, though if you can spoiler tag chunks to prevent whole-sale give-aways for people who haven't gotten to where you are yet, etc, that'd be good (bascially: be courteous).

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 04:26 PM Local time: Apr 1, 2010, 12:26 AM #207 of 235
Hot damn I'm going to replay the hell out of you.


Also philia I'm fairly sure the video had the guy using arcade sticks (or a cabinet in this one).

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 04:38 PM #208 of 235
Yeah that was it. I must be thinking of that keyboard with another shump or something.

But man that's pretty awesome.

And MAX PAYNE.

This game was awesome then, and still is today. We got into the two installments immediately when they first came out and we both played them back to back and enjoyed the hell out of them.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 04:58 PM Local time: Mar 31, 2010, 02:58 PM 1 #209 of 235
Oh, what the fuck. You looked at my ranking correctly, right Omagnus? Like, how I put Max Payne last?

Ah well. I'll just pass.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 05:09 PM 5 #210 of 235
What kind of fuckwad passes on playing Max Payne? It's not like it's too powerful for anybody's PC these days. Do you just not have the $10? Do you need $10? I will give you $10 to play Max Payne. I will do this.

Pretty much my proudest stupid gaming achievement is playing through with the kung fu mod without firing a single shot, just bashing in heads with the fighting staff.
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Save for the ending at the helipad, where you have no choice but to use a gun of some kind.
Pretty much the only time I've set an optional "condition" for myself in a game and followed through on it, since it really becomes a totally different (and much harder) game that way. So goddamn satisfying. MP2 is technically superior in every way, but it's just lacking the heart of the original, somehow... and the upcoming MP3 fills me with no confidence whatsoever.

Funny as hell, it was the worst thing I could think of.

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 05:33 PM #211 of 235
This one I'll actually do. Max Payne has been sitting in front of me for at least a year now. Doing this should give me SOME motivation to play it. And Pang, save yourself the 10 bux and yell at everyone to buy a used copy at Gamestop. You could buy two used copies there with that 10 bux.

It beats getting frustrated at Shepard and Garrus for taking too much damage in Mass Effect.

(I was really hoping for some Yakuza though. )

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 05:37 PM Local time: Mar 31, 2010, 03:37 PM 1 #212 of 235
What kind of fuckwad passes on playing Max Payne?
A fuckwad who played it too many times back in the day.

Not to mention that I actually don't have $10 to spare (Skills was frustrated by the same thing when I didn't have the money for Perfect Dark).

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 05:53 PM Local time: Mar 31, 2010, 04:53 PM #213 of 235
If you played it then you still have it.

it's not like anyone with three or more firing brain cells would have gotten rid of it or nothin

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 06:00 PM #214 of 235
Maybe he just played it so damn much that his system exploded, tragically taking the innocent disc along with it

This is the only plausible explanation really

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Old Mar 31, 2010, 08:18 PM Local time: Mar 31, 2010, 06:18 PM #215 of 235
A fuckwad who played it too many times back in the day.

Not to mention that I actually don't have $10 to spare (Skills was frustrated by the same thing when I didn't have the money for Perfect Dark).
Do you have PayPal? Because I WILL FUCKING GIVE YOU $10 to buy this game.

Fuckwad.

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Old Apr 1, 2010, 07:05 AM Local time: Apr 1, 2010, 01:05 PM #216 of 235
this owns

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Old Apr 1, 2010, 07:43 AM Local time: Apr 1, 2010, 01:43 PM 1 #217 of 235
Does anyone have a piano transcription of

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Rota's Theme from La Strada?

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Old Apr 1, 2010, 07:49 AM Local time: Apr 1, 2010, 01:49 PM #218 of 235
I remember back when I first saw Max Payne I was tempted to think of it as a gimmick driven game and dismiss it on that basis. How wrong can you be. The storytelling is probably the strongest of any shooter I ever played, and while the gameplay is based on the bullet time mechanic, it never really feels like the type of shallow and gimicky game I initially mistook it for.

I love the character of Max Payne. I love his twisted half smile, I love his voice, I love the way he's right out of every old detective film ever.

Goddamn I love this game. Only decision that remains is whether I replay it on XBOX or spring for the Steam version. I'm not much good with mouse/keyboard controls, but I heard the PC version looks a lot better so...

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Old Apr 1, 2010, 09:28 AM 1 #219 of 235
hm, wonder what happens with post-merging

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Old Apr 1, 2010, 10:12 AM 1 #220 of 235
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Old Apr 1, 2010, 10:14 AM Local time: Apr 1, 2010, 03:14 PM #221 of 235
You are now entering the realm where the supernatural becomes the natural, you have stepped into the *name pending*

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Old Apr 1, 2010, 02:23 PM #222 of 235
And if there aren't enough votes by Sunday night, then it's discretionary whether the week is extended, Simple enough.
Yeah, everyone knows the rules now. If you get your votes in, you get them in. Anybody who votes Sunday night or later knows they're tempting fate.

My delay this month is purely attributed to SAUS. Now that the trackload is manageable, I'll be back on schedule.

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Old Apr 1, 2010, 07:37 PM Local time: Apr 1, 2010, 05:37 PM #223 of 235
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Old Apr 8, 2010, 12:48 AM Local time: Apr 7, 2010, 10:48 PM #224 of 235
I fired up Max Payne today just to go at least start it. I couldn't play it on my 360 because, for some reason, I couldn't see anything. I thought I'd fried my Xbox again but I tried it on my old Xbox and that worked just fine. I'm thinking it has something to do with the HDMI cable because I have component cables hooking up my old Xbox and that looks just fine. For the record, since I have a much nicer TV than I did the last time I played this game, I never noticed how great this game looked back then; it's a lot nicer than I remember.

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Old Apr 22, 2010, 01:13 AM Local time: Apr 22, 2010, 12:13 AM #225 of 235
So I've been trying to play on New York Minute, since I've never beaten it on that before. Yeah.

Uh.

I'm not really getting anywhere. This was not a good idea.

Has anyone here got anything they can offer me for general pointers? I understand getting by under the wire is how this works but I feel like I'm succeeding more on luck than brains in the rare occasion where I do?

Or am I just doing that shittily? Maybe trying this coming off of such a lengthy hiatus is not the best idea.

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