[PS3] PlayStation 3 Discussion Thread

Metal Sphere said above that they will be swapable, yes.

And is running ethernet through the baseboards really that geeky anymore? Don't tell me I'm alone, guys. ;_;

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I use a wireless ethernet adaptor from Linksys, so unless Wifi is supposed to be faster or something, then that'll do just fine.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Colonel Skills: No, but Wi-Fi is still better.

Don't take this the wrong way, but just because you don't have a use for the more expensive features doesn't mean that they're useless. They're just that way to you.

Personally I won't use the memory card reader either, but the larger HDD would be great seeing how my 360 is ALWAYS full of demos and videos. As for the Wi-Fi I'm too lazy to run wire and if you look at it from the 360 point of view, think of it that you're paying for the $100 Wi-Fi attachment and getting the memory card reader and the extra 40GB for free.

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Isn't Ethernet still faster than Wifi at this point? or has Wifi caught up? I personally would not mind a single ethernet cable running between a PS3 and a router if needed. And, I am inclined to agree, the XBox360's Core package was definitely lacking a lot of things.....too much to make you want to buy it. I mean, it was still functional, but marginally. The PS3, ironically, is the exact opposite. The Core package of the PS3 is fully functional already. The Premium PS3 is just extras that you really don't need. It may be nice to have, but you don't need it.

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I couldn't have compared the bundles any better myself.

As for Wi-Fi, if you are running 802.11g (which most are) then as long as you're within 100ft of the router there is no difference in performance. If you're much further then 100ft or if you live in a house of stone or metal then you might want to consider going wired. If you want more accurate reports on Wi-Fi performance, then it is easy to find comparison reports via google.

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Soldier: Your wireless set up is the same basic thing here. Instead of running an ethernet cable to a wireless adaptor, you'd just be using the built in wireless of the PS3.

Slayer: Ahahaha, what? Wifi isn't "better" at all as far as pure speed or anything goes. It's slower than 10/100 ethernet, and WAY slower than gigabit LAN.

If you're going to talk about the speed of one's internet connection, you're right. But then again they could be using 802.11b and not notice a difference in their broadband speeds. Everyone should know this by now.

If you mean it's "better" simply because you don't have to trip over cables or take ten minutes to run them through the house, I guess that's true. But it's not "better" than an elegant wired solution in performance by any stretch, especially for a console that won't be moving around a lot and basically be sitting on your home theater rack for a number of years.

But if you're going to use the PS3's media connectivity features (which you seem keen on) by connecting it to your home network, the wired solution would be both more reliable and faster.

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Who cares about the stats. The only part that matters is if it works fine for online gaming... and it does. I've run my 360 both ways and I've never had any problems due to the fact that I'm using Wi-Fi. The only times that you would NEED it wired is if you meet the exceptions that I mentioned earlier, or if you're streaming videos... that's it. You're not going to be doing anything else that requires more then 802.11g and if you do have a or be just spend the $40 and get a G router.

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In that case, I have no reason to replace my ethernet adaptor, which still works fine for PS2.

And again, you can get a HD with far more space for far less the price, if you wait for a rebate special. Maxtor brand 120GB for $20 is the norm. In fact, perhaps you can use some spare PC HDs and transfer stuff to the PS3. Maybe someone will even come up with the PS3 equivalent of HD Loader, at least for PS2 games.

As for the card reader, I haven't brushed up on what card slots the 60GB version has over the 20GB, but I did read that they'll release peripherals for the missing slots anyway, and that shouldn't cost more than $20-30.

So in total, you only need to spend around $40-$50 to get what's missing from the 20GB system, assuming you don't have any spare HDs lying around.

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Well, you went around touting it as "better", and I'm asking what you mean by that. It's not. It's often the simpler solution and has no real downsides outside of LAN speeds, but it's hardly "better". If you're going to say such a thing, you should expect someone to call you on it, that's all.

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Hence the point of two options correct?

I was speaking idiomatically.

I have no issue with having both options present. I am just correcting your mistake. You misunderstand me, sir.

We should avoid derailing this any farther though.

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Alright then, back to the matter at hand for the moment. This will be my final say on the matter for there are other subjects that can be discussed here aswell.

First I want to apologize if it seemed or if I worded myself to make it seem that I was saying that Wi-Fi is better. Because that is imposible. Wireless can never be better then wired, doesn't matter what you're talking about, it can only hope to be equal at best.

What I meant to say is that Wi-Fi will get the job done. If you're playing games, streaming music, or viewing pictures.. Wi-Fi gets the job done with no real noticible hinderance. If you are doing more intensive things like streaming video, there will be a noticible percentage difference between Wi-Fi and Ethernet, but once again it will get the job done.

Is it worth the extra money? If you already have a ethernet cord right there probably not. But if you already have a Wi-Fi router, or don't have an Ethernet cable where you need it to be, Wi-Fi is a worthy option. If you take your console to people's houses when you go to visit and there's the possibility that they might have Wi-Fi instead of hardwire, then it may also be worth considering getting Wi-Fi enabled PS3.

That is my case my good sir, and I stand by it.

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Question, I plan on using the PS3 solely for games and movies (since I hear it has other functions, none of which really interest me, personally), so is the 20GB version fine for that? Or is the 60GB version better just because it has more memory for games?

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The 60GB version will be good for thoes who are planing on downloading lots of demos, trailers and such from Sony online, as well for thoes who are planning to rip every CD in their collection. For every one else, 20GB should do fine. And as stated before, at any point you can replace your HDD with a larger one of ANY brand of HDD in the future if you do decide that you need more space. So unless you think you need the 60GB model, or that you need one of the other functions on the Premium PS3, the basic model should do most people fine.

The only hook is that Sony has said that 70-80% of PS3s shipped to North America will be the Premium model, so getting that cheaper Core model, might be a bit tricky at launch.

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Not if you make sure to reserve the 20gb model early.

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Originally Posted by Vash

Question, I plan on using the PS3 solely for games and movies (since I hear it has other functions, none of which really interest me, personally), so is the 20GB version fine for that? Or is the 60GB version better just because it has more memory for games?

Get the 20GB model. If all you're going to use it for is games and movies, as the console should've been from the get go, then you'll be set with the cheaper unit.

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Good to know, thanks guys

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Not a problem, most people seem to have these questions since Sony's not going to fully clarify launch details until the October event they're planning.

I was speaking idiomatically.

So... is there any information about the backwards compatibility at all? How it'll work and all, if PS2 games will look somewhat better, etc?

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I know that I haven't heard anything other then it's going to be FULLY compatable with ALL PS1 & 2 games. I wouldn't be surprised if the PS1 part has the same enhancements it had on the PS2. As for the PS2 component, Sony's not releasing all the details until october, so you'll probably have to wait until then to know for sure.

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That's a downer. They could at least release a screenshot of some PS2 game with the enhancements on, if it has any.

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I don't remember seeing any ps1 with the ps2 enhancement at the lauch of the ps2 so I don't see why they would have done it now...

anyway just a normal backward compatibility (by that I mean no enhancement) will still be better then the backward compatibility of the 360 >.>

if there's really some enhancement, I would really like to see Shoadow of the Colossus running on the ps3 (to see if it will help the framerate problem)

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Just by playing PS2 games on the PS3 should fix any frame rate issues there were with the original hardware, unless the problem lies in poor coding and not hardware limitations.

And like you said, just the fact that it has the ability makes it 1000000000000% better then the 360's ability... if you can even say that it has any ability. (No Shenmu, Unreal Championship 2, The Warriors or Kingdom Under Fire... who the hell's running that damn circus over at M$?)

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The PS3's backwards compatibility was touched on way back at E3 '05. Here's basically what was touched on:

• 13k titles to emulate (PS1 and PS2 numbers shown, I think it was 7k and 6k)
• PS1 Emulation achieved via software emulation
• PS2 Emulation achieved via hardware present in the PS3 (it's assumed Sony's simply dropping the PSTwo's Dragon chip, basically the EE+GS combined, into the unit)

We'll see clarification at that event in October. This is one of many issues on people's minds. Online is another vague area.

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Originally Posted by Inhert

I don't remember seeing any ps2 with the ps2 enhancement at the lauch of the ps2 so I don't see why they would have done it now...

Yeah I don't remember seeing any ps2 enhancements on the ps2 either.

However, I do remember seeing some Vagrant Story (PS1) comparison pics.

And Metal, yeah, I remember seeing all that info. I was hoping there'd be some more news by now, but I guess not.

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