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Bolton resigns
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/12/...n/edbolton.php
Anyway, despite his hostile diplomatic attitude toward UN, and not forgetting, revising the entire draft of World Summit 2005 few weeks before the d-day, he's very powerful diplomat indeed. I actually dont have a lot of knowledge of american diplomats, what do you think of his resignation? Also, do you prefer an ambassador such as Bolton, or the softer ones? Jam it back in, in the dark.
Last edited by eriol33; Dec 5, 2006 at 01:17 PM.
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Yes, of course, diplomats are supposed to carry out their national interest, but what differs them are they approach to other, and dont forget about bureaucratic approach, we shouldnt seen state as single entity because the national interest could be considered as agreement between the officials.
Also, were the diplomats chosen before Bolton also tend to bash UN unilaterally? My lecturer even said that he is not even diplomatic. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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What exactly was wrong with the way Bolton approached the UN? He clearly reflected the Bush Administration's attitude towards the UN and I can see his departure as a bad thing. Bolton was the best UN ambassador we've had since the UN's formation.
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The problem of Bolton is, he is putting pressuring UN too much and being famous as UN-bashing ambassador. And also, his unilateral diplomacy raises critic even in bush administration itself. CMIW.
I was speaking idiomatically.
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And there was much rejoicing. Also, I love how to NP, "best" refers to "is an absolute affront to the entire world." Or have you really become so fucking ethnocentric that you believe in a father knows best mentality now, NP? What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
If Bolton's approach was getting results, then this would be a bad thing for the U.S. Unfortunately, Bolton has failed to advance American interests in the world body. For example, there hasn't been any substantial overhaul of the UN's administrative structure - a major goal of his going into the job - and two weak resolutions with respect to Iran and North Korea, two states contemplating the acquisition of nuclear fucking weapons. Mr. Bolton has done nothing so far to improve the U.S. standing in the world, nor improve its relations with the rest of the world. All he's managed to do is alientate traditional allies and further erode the U.S. image abroad. A change wouldn't hurt.
FELIPE NO
Last edited by lordjames; Dec 5, 2006 at 09:21 PM.
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Yeah, Max Power was a superb ambassador. Playing the biggest nuisance you possibly can and working toward near-universal disdain will work tops.
Good riddance to rubbish. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
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Last edited by Cal; Dec 6, 2006 at 04:00 AM.
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Like him or loathe him, I'm anxious to see how giving "the people" what they want works out for foreign policy.
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Why do all you liberals want an ambassador that advocates policies that make America weaker? I don't understand that shit.
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I guess the idea of foreign policy is to work together with other countries for the good of humanity and not to be the strongest.
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I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Hard to respect an international body when it pretty much gave us thumbs-up for an "illegal" invasion.
This is all empty politicking and bullshit. Bolton being out of the office doesn't change a single goddamned thing, it only means that el Presidente doesn't want to be caught with his pants down when a Democratic Congress turns down his appointment. Not like unilateral actions from a belligerent Executive are a new thing. I was speaking idiomatically. |
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Can't say I liked Bolton, but with the bias and anti-west mentality of the UN, he was needed I think. I just hope the next ambassador has similar balls, as it were.
The funny thing is, quite a few of the democrats that originally were against his appointment were just recently mentioning how well a job he was doing. Seems a bit odd to now throw a hissy fit. Oh well, as long as the next person to fill the postion doesn't bend over, well, let's hope some good comes from it all... Most amazing jew boots |
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And your view has always seemed to be "Everything America does is wrong, we should be more like Europe and allow them to set what our policy should be." That's not diplomacy either, fuck boy.
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On the other hand, if you can give the Europeans the idea that they are "setting our policy," when in fact that are not, then it would be infinitely better than saying "fuck you" in not so many words. A most effective form of diplomacy is one where you get what you want out of your neighbors while they are under the delusion that it somehow works in their favor.
There's nowhere I can't reach.
Last edited by packrat; Dec 8, 2006 at 09:51 AM.
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But what the Europeans unequivocally want is a weaker, neutered America that is forced to fall in lock-step with them, meanwhile, they find themselves being taken over by Arabs in their own countries and refuse to do anything to stop the eventual transformation into Eurabia.
I'm not saying that we should just say 'Fuck you' to Europe, but c'mon, you can't take them seriously and that's what a liberal's idea of Diplomacy is - being Europe's bitch. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
This Europhobia thing of yours is ridiculous, Night Phoenix. I can hardly believe you're seriously afraid of being "Europe's bitch".
I don't even understand what you mean by being "stronger" or "weaker" in this sense. Don't make it sound like America is at war with Europe, for god's sake. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
We might as well be. Europe's already doomed to be taken over by a flood of Islamic immigration. They are still on that appeasement shit after we bailed them out in World War II. Europe's gonna die, I'm just not sure if America's doomed to the same fate yet, but I see the writings on the wall. If we follow the lead of Europe, America's gonna die.
I was speaking idiomatically. |
Who feeds you conservatives this shit?
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
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First of all, Arab =/= Muslim, Arab is an ethnicity like Hispanic, and an Arab can be atheist, agnostic, Christian, Buddhistic, or just whatever the fuck he or she wants to be. The vast majority of Muslim immigrants to Europe aren't even Arab.... in the UK, Muslims are pretty much exclusively Pakistani and Indian, which are Asian. In The Netherlands/France/Belgium/Germany, most Muslims are North Africans (Algerians/Moroccans/Tunisians, some of which are indeed Arab, but most in Europe are Berbers, the original peoples of North Africa from before the Arab conquest), black Africans, and Turks. (and those aren't Arabs either, obviously) Second, yes, there's lots of Muslim immigrants.... does this mean they're taking over? Are Mexicans taking over in America? (actually, considering the type I'm talking to here, the answer would probably be yes ) I'm sick and tired of these paranoid islamophobic assholes spewing their shit about Europe, which, in 9/10 cases, they've never even been out of their own country. Muslims aren't some hostile takeover machine like you would love to think... most of them are born here and some immigrants even have grandchildren who are born here now... they are forever part of our country and anyone who doesn't like it can suck a big fat one, that's the only thing you can really do about it. And don't think you (random paranoid American guy) can come and tell me about this supposed islamic takeover of Europe... I was born and raised smack dab in the middle of a largely Muslim part of Amsterdam, went to a high school mostly attended by Muslims (which, ironically, was a Christian school ), and I wouldn't have had it any other way. Jam it back in, in the dark.
Last edited by Spinal Tap; Dec 9, 2006 at 01:26 AM.
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