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Old Aug 8, 2006, 10:40 PM Local time: Aug 8, 2006, 10:40 PM #1 of 73
Japanese Scientists Play God

Quite literally.

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http://www.casavaria.com/sentido/sci...w-universe.htm
PHYSICISTS IN JAPAN PLAN TO CREATE NEW UNIVERSE IN LAB
USING THE HIGGS FIELD, SCIENTISTS THEORIZE IT IS POSSIBLE TO CAUSE A 'BABY UNIVERSE' TO BREAK OFF FROM OUR OWN, SAFELY
2 August 2006

A radical new project could permit human beings to create a "baby universe" in a laboratory in Japan. While it sounds like a dangerous undertaking, the physicists involved believe that if the project is successful, the space-time around a tiny point within our universe will be distorted in such a way that it will begin to form a new superfluid space, and eventually break off, separate in all respects from our experience of space and time, causing no harm to the fabric of our universe.
My mind is absolutely fucking blown.

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Old Aug 8, 2006, 10:44 PM Local time: Aug 8, 2006, 08:44 PM #2 of 73
Probably fake, but whatever.

This just seems so over-the-top ridiculous that it's funny.

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Old Aug 8, 2006, 10:52 PM #3 of 73
I find that to be fucking awesome.

Soon we can finally market marbles with little universes within them.

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Old Aug 8, 2006, 10:53 PM Local time: Aug 8, 2006, 09:53 PM #4 of 73
Even with a understanding of things like String Theory, this just simply goes well beyond my comprehension.

I hope something educational comes out of it, and that the scientists are right that the experiment will be completely safe.

I wouldn't like it either if we hear in the news that Japan has disappeared all of a sudden.

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Old Aug 8, 2006, 10:53 PM Local time: Aug 8, 2006, 09:53 PM #5 of 73
Interesting, but later in the article it says that the whole thing would happen so quickly that absolutely nothing would be observed. How then could you even tell if it was a success?

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Old Aug 8, 2006, 11:13 PM Local time: Aug 8, 2006, 10:13 PM #6 of 73
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The key is a monopole, a unique sperical particle with only a north or south pole, only one charge.
'Kay, good luck with finding one of those.

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 04:37 PM #7 of 73
Originally Posted by Merv Burger
I find that to be fucking awesome.

Soon we can finally market marbles with little universes within them.
Aw, I'd prefer bouncy balls. Marbles hurt like a bitch, but those bouncy balls with a picture of Saturn and what-not inside them are mmm mmm chewy! =)

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 04:45 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 09:45 PM #8 of 73
Originally Posted by knkwzrd
Interesting, but later in the article it says that the whole thing would happen so quickly that absolutely nothing would be observed. How then could you even tell if it was a success?
Exactly what I was thinking, they would have to refine their observational equipment considerably to even witness it. Also I don't understand how they can proclaim it completely safe. How can they know that until the damage is done; it's not like anything of the sort has been done before...

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 04:47 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 09:47 PM #9 of 73
I read something about this in New Scientist. Something about this kind of experiment worries me, but I have my doubts as to their chances of being successful.

http://www.newscientistspace.com/cha...-universe.html

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 04:50 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 10:50 PM #10 of 73
String Theory - heh, someone in japan obviously understands that now

Had a whole discussion about this with a housemate. Some mega complicated shit but bloody interesting

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 05:06 PM #11 of 73
This is neat. It's ironic too, because I just recently within the last few months read a science fiction novel about an experiment exactly like this going awry. Hot. <3

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 05:13 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 03:13 PM #12 of 73
Is there anyway I can read up on this subject? Because, let me tell you, to a layman, that whole explaination made no fucking sense.

But I AM intrigued, admittedly.

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 07:18 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 04:18 PM #13 of 73
Reality is stranger than fiction.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Aug 10, 2006, 08:39 PM Local time: Aug 11, 2006, 02:39 AM #14 of 73
I have a strange feeling in my stomach while reading this oO

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 08:47 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 07:47 PM #15 of 73
So the Japanese have made it to Mormon heaven where they're space gods that rule over their own universes... awesome.

It's a considerable upgrade from the ant farm.

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 09:26 PM #16 of 73
Intresting, but how do they plan to create a universe when they dont even fully understand how one works?

also...

the particle accelerator that would prove the higgs field theory isnt even finished yet. and its in switzerland, not japan.

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 11:28 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 10:28 PM #17 of 73
Sweet shit. Sounds like something straight out of a sci-fi anime... o.o;

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Old Aug 10, 2006, 11:37 PM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 08:37 PM #18 of 73
Any word on how they're going to do it? With hypothetical particles with near-magical properties whose discovery alone would change the conceptions of the laws of the universe?

Well hell, if that's it, why has it taken them so long?


Hurrah for QUESTIONS. But seriously, theoretical physics really bugs me. It's interesting farfetched and all, but until it's actually proven, it sounds like bad science fiction and people are willing to believe it because "scientists said so."

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Old Aug 11, 2006, 12:11 AM Local time: Aug 11, 2006, 12:11 AM #19 of 73
Is it just me, or does anyone else think it's a bad thing that scientists now have to assure us that the fabric of space-time won't be ripped apart by their experiments?

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Old Aug 11, 2006, 12:13 AM Local time: Aug 10, 2006, 11:13 PM #20 of 73
Join the club, shit always seems like it could hit the fan with these new "discoveries" and "experiments" taking place...

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Old Aug 11, 2006, 04:40 AM #21 of 73
If the Japanese blow up our universe with paradox trying to do this, I'm gonna be mighty pissed.

Thankfully, the Japanese are the smartest beings in the universe, so I guess I'll trust them to this for the time being . . .

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Old Aug 12, 2006, 02:04 AM Local time: Aug 11, 2006, 11:04 PM #22 of 73
Originally Posted by Solis
Is it just me, or does anyone else think it's a bad thing that scientists now have to assure us that the fabric of space-time won't be ripped apart by their experiments?

I would have to agree. While this may be very interesting, and shows that we, as humans, have advanced in our studies to the point of where we might actually do ourselves more harm then good. If this experiment goes wrong, there could be dire consequences, and I do not even want to imagine how many lives would be at stake for such a cause. Some things should not be tampered with, and I believe that this is one of them. Though, if the earth was to even become inhabitable, then maybe this research would be of some use. Other then that, I am not really to sure this is a stable idea.

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Old Aug 12, 2006, 02:07 AM Local time: Aug 12, 2006, 01:07 AM #23 of 73
Don't worry, if it turns out to be a disaster, the survivors will invent time-travel and go back to stop them from trying the experiment.

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Old Aug 12, 2006, 02:11 AM Local time: Aug 11, 2006, 11:11 PM #24 of 73
Originally Posted by Dhsu
Don't worry, if it turns out to be a disaster, the survivors will invent time-travel and go back to stop them from trying the experiment.
Why is all of this starting to sound like some corny SCIFI film or anime? :lolsign:

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Old Aug 12, 2006, 02:20 AM Local time: Aug 12, 2006, 01:20 AM #25 of 73
Because it's JAPAN.

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