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Alright, ladies. I liked it just fine when it was a nice debate but now it's gotten well off into PP material, which I'm sure LordsSword wanted it to be anyway. Enjoy the view.
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What are you going to do to make people stop trying pass off their values on others at any rate? Fighting bigotry with more intolerance is a losing a battle. By continuing these pointless debates you've established one thing; they've won. As long as the debate continues they win. And they're the minority to boot. Now that's something to be enraged about!
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Yeah, from this point on I'm ignoring you completely. You clearly have no grasp of history, biology, or the real world. Kudos, sir, on managing to be as fucking idiotic as LordSword from a completely different perspective. FELIPE NO John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
LOL ignored for being level headed.
What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? It was lunchtime at Wagstaff.
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Jam it back in, in the dark. |
You guys know that if this issue comes up, you're supposed to do everything you can to stop it, right? That even if it does get through that it'll be overturned by the courts, right? That arguing until you're blue-faced on the internet isn't how you combat creation science, right?
Right? Right? Right? hey guys There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Not to say that you don't have a fat lot of nerve complaining about people fighting over the same hot button arguments but This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
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Just sayin'. ;_; I was speaking idiomatically. |
Being religious is no excuse, don't they teach critical thinking these days?
fucking kids What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
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I dunno what kind of wires got crossed, but basically Watts is saying that there isn't a massive Christian Right boogeyman out there that's forcing their agenda on the country at large. The fact that we're having a Creationist Science debate gives credence to their ideas, because it makes it seem like it's worth debating. There's nothing to debate. Creation Science isn't science, period. The vast majority of our public school systems think so. The vast majority of Americans think so. And our courts think so. Creation Science isn't science. That's as far as this needs to go. Still Watts, what were you inferring about agendas and evolution in schools? Because I don't see any kind of agenda unless it involves not teaching kids properly. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
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It's complacent or lazy to assume that other agendas are not at work in modern day curriculum. Presenting and passing on modern day values onto the next generation. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
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Your head---------------------------------> I was speaking idiomatically. It was lunchtime at Wagstaff.
Touching butts had been banned by the evil Headmaster Frond. Suddenly, Tina Belcher appeared in the doorway. She knew what she had to do. She touched Jimmy Jr's butt and changed the world. |
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
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Last edited by Bradylama; Nov 18, 2007 at 06:55 PM.
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I'll spell it out. Since the inception of public education and continuing well into this day.... the overall agenda is; Uniformity. -and when someone dares challenge that uniformity- Animosity. It's even easier to tell what's not being taught in public schools. Reading comprehension and critical thought. Though I do not know if that's intentional, or just a byproduct of so many simple minded people.
of natural selection it would've stressed three important values; freedom, competition, and the struggle for survival. The cornerstones of capitalism as far as I'm concerned. Which I have no problem with. But I'm not a Marxist. Surely they could complain about a bias in the way Natural Selection was portrayed. Science is not inherently bias or dogmatic. It just depends on how it's portrayed. (bold for emphasis)
I'm sure there was people who were skeptical about eugenics at the time. That's half the problem, because if you did you would not only just be met with animosity. You probably would've died in a concentration camp in Nazi Germany. The other problem of course is that the majority of people bought into the eugenics theory (that eventually led to the Holocaust) in the first place. The minority of skeptical people who were smart just kept their mouths shut or were marginalized.
underlining ideology has been stamped out. The degree of manipulation at work depends on the positions of influence former eugenicists hold in current scientific research. Like say, the Human Genome Project. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
really? where are you confused? Where do you think the science doesn't add up? Also I like how you're hopping on the train ride of "I don't agree with forcefully sterilizing people against their will" like this is a badge of honor. welcome to the rest of the world, numbnuts. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
How many times do I have to say I'm not for creationism, "creation science", or intelligent design? Nevermind, I'm just going to stop.
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Keep the change, kid. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
You've missed the point, Lurker. His argument basically boils down to: "You hate me because I'm different, while I hate you because you're all the same."
For someone who was screaming about a lack of critical thought, he's pretty quick to wave his arms around and scream AGENDA with no proof beyond his own petty paranoia. But he's right, you know. We're taught to think in a uniform fashion. Which is why anthropology always agrees with sociology, who always agrees with psychology, who always agrees with religious studies, etc. It's a pity. Smart enough to read Farenheit 451, not smart enough to apply the metaphor properly. Ah well, maybe the next one, eh Watts? Oh, and as a P.S. There is no big vast conspiracy pushing a scientific agenda. And even if there were, it would get overturned anyway. You see why your logic is burying you? I was speaking idiomatically. John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |