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[PS3] PlayStation 3 Fan Noise. Annoyingly loud, ain't it?
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Chie
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Old Dec 27, 2007, 11:13 AM #276 of 836
I don't suppose theres a hack for the ps3 to play burned ps2 games is there.
I don't want to get rid of my modded one yet >_>

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 11:23 AM #277 of 836
There is no way to mod a PS3 as of this time.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 27, 2007, 11:29 AM #278 of 836
yeah I know theres not mod but since the psp is so small and so full of possibilities I thought there would be some hacks for the ps3 as well because of the whole harddrive built into and stuff *_*

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 12:50 PM Local time: Dec 27, 2007, 06:50 PM #279 of 836
yeah I know theres not mod but since the psp is so small and so full of possibilities I thought there would be some hacks for the ps3 as well because of the whole harddrive built into and stuff *_*
I heard there's a way to use Swap Magic discs, but it is blocked in the later firmware upgrades. It also requires you to perform a hardware mod so that you can swap the disc without pressing the eject button.

I am not doing a hardware mod on a 300 quid console I just bought. Or rather... am just about to buy.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 02:11 PM Local time: Dec 28, 2007, 03:11 AM #280 of 836
I'll even wait a year after the first modchip is released before I ever get mine modded. Damned expensive huge black box...... of goodness lol

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 03:38 PM #281 of 836
PS2/1 games look hideous on PS3.

Keep your old systems.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 03:47 PM Local time: Dec 27, 2007, 12:47 PM #282 of 836
PS2/1 games look hideous on PS3.

Keep your old systems.
You have your PS3 set to 1080p output for the PS1/PS2 upscaling? Playing games from my PS2 on my HDTV looks bad to the point of unplayable while the PS3 upscaling actually makes most of them look pretty damned good.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 04:38 PM #283 of 836
PS3's upscaling is laughable, and results in an image that looks as if it was smeared with vaseline (no smoothing). Allowing my TV to upscale results in a better image, but the PS3's awful deinterlacing creates an image that is still unnaturally soft.

If the PS3 could output the original 480i signal, all would be well.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 05:02 PM Local time: Dec 27, 2007, 02:02 PM #284 of 836
The PS3 uses Nvidias per-pixel adaptive deinterlacing and scaling found in the latest PureVideo. I doubt there is a TV out there with better scaling and deinterlacing hardware, but maybe they are using some shader settings that don't look good to you and unfortunately there is only an on/off setting for it. Maybe one day they'll allow for more user control of the scaler like sharpness level during the inverse transformation.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 05:30 PM #285 of 836
I dont see anything wrong with the PS3's upscaling. I'm playing FFVIII on my PS3 right now and it looks great compared to it running on a ps1 or a ps2 on a HDTV.

Just a nice heads-up:

IF ANYONE WANTS ASSASSIN'S CREED (PS3):
It's only $28 over at Best Buy this week.
($37.99 sale price +$10 off any PS3 game coupon)

The coupon's here, in case you want $10 off any other PS3 game, too.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/251/bestbuy1lh6.jpg

Enjoy!
I dont see that coupon on their website.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Dec 27, 2007, 05:42 PM #286 of 836
I dont see that coupon on their website.
Yeah, I know, that coupon's not on their website. That's why I gave a link to it from a CheapAssGamers.com post.

That's a coupon they gave out for some Playstation Underground membership or something, I don't know. It doesn't scan properly, but it works when the cashier keys in the SKU number.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 05:59 PM Local time: Dec 27, 2007, 12:59 PM #287 of 836
I know that PS2/1 emulation on the 80GB model is laughable, but does Sony have any intention on improving it (firmware upgrades that allow more games to be played)? I'd buy a 60GB model, but I just don't trust buying it used. Finding it new won't be easy.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 06:07 PM Local time: Dec 27, 2007, 03:07 PM #288 of 836
I know that PS2/1 emulation on the 80GB model is laughable, but does Sony have any intention on improving it (firmware upgrades that allow more games to be played)? I'd buy a 60GB model, but I just don't trust buying it used. Finding it new won't be easy.
Software emulation is above 90% now and hardly laughable. And yes they seem to fit in small fixes for BC in nearly every firmware release.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 06:19 PM Local time: Dec 27, 2007, 01:19 PM #289 of 836
Software emulation is above 90% now and hardly laughable. And yes they seem to fit in small fixes for BC in nearly every firmware release.
Ah, that's good to hear. Guess I was reading an old article.

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Old Dec 27, 2007, 07:20 PM #290 of 836
For example Ar Tonelico and Growlanser Generations never worked before the latest update, but now they're fine.

Also for thoes trying to argue whether Megalith is right or not it's useless. Megalith is pretty much a videophile / audio quality freak. Not that there's anything wrong with that but the more one knows the more things they notice. Myself personally, I think that 75% of PS2 games look like crap anyway so I don't really care. And all that I do play on it are 2D fighting games, so I wouldn't be able to tell you whether it's better or worse.

But I'm sure the PS3 upscaling is fine for most who can't tell the difference.
(I also have the 60Gb system, so there may be a difference compared to the 80Gb version, I don't know)

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Old Dec 28, 2007, 05:22 AM Local time: Dec 28, 2007, 06:22 PM #291 of 836
I just noticed it now, when did we get this new visual thing when we play musics? Before, we had only two, the huge swirl which was like the ps3's XMB Background, and then the wave thing that changes colors, now we have one that shows us the moon, and the earth? It depends perhaps on the current time I guess since its night time here

-edit- Ah, Earth Visualization... came with 2.10.... meow~

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Old Dec 28, 2007, 05:42 AM Local time: Dec 28, 2007, 11:42 AM #292 of 836
The Earth Visualization is pretty awesome, now we only need a visual theme like the one in folding@home a.k.a. the best PS3 game there will ever be.

Well yeah okay we don't really need stuff like that, but it would be cool anyway.

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Old Dec 28, 2007, 09:03 AM Local time: Dec 28, 2007, 10:03 PM #293 of 836
There are some visualization in the psp that would look good in HD.... I wonder why they wont 'port' those? :|

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Old Dec 28, 2007, 06:18 PM #294 of 836
There are some visualization in the psp that would look good in HD.... I wonder why they wont 'port' those? :|
I wanna see 2nd visualiation from the PSP on the PS3, it's the one after the colored dotted bars.

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Old Dec 28, 2007, 06:38 PM Local time: Dec 29, 2007, 12:38 AM #295 of 836
Can I use the LCD monitor for my PC as an HD monitor for my PS3? The monitor's native resolution is 1280x1024, so I imagine it should be able to handle 720p from the PS3. It is a 4:3 aspect ratio screen, so I assume I'll get a letterbox display with black borders.

Since gaming and Blu-Ray is all I would use HD TV for, I'm tempted to buy a widescreen monitor rather than an HD TV. Is that a sound decision? It can do double duty that way, saving my limited space. If this will work, what cables and such do I need to make it all work together?

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Old Dec 28, 2007, 07:16 PM Local time: Dec 28, 2007, 06:16 PM #296 of 836
Look for a monitor with HDMI input. Or buy an HDTV and let it double as your monitor, using a VGA cable with your PC.

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Old Dec 29, 2007, 05:44 AM #297 of 836
If you're looking at an LCD monitor with an HDMI input, it's gonna cost you arround 600$ - 700$. In that price you can get an HDTV or add a couple hundred dollars maybe, I think those Vizio TV's are pretty cheap. I hear that LCD monitors dont serve that well for using it as a TV as well, but it could be wrong so I'm not sure. Like russ said, buy an HDTV and you could use that as your PC monitor.

Heres one for 550$ Vizio Inc. - Products - VIZIO VW26L HDTV it's not 1080p but I dont know if you care about that or not, but yea Vizio is pretty cheap.

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Old Dec 29, 2007, 08:06 AM Local time: Dec 29, 2007, 08:06 AM #298 of 836
Can I use the LCD monitor for my PC as an HD monitor for my PS3? The monitor's native resolution is 1280x1024, so I imagine it should be able to handle 720p from the PS3. It is a 4:3 aspect ratio screen, so I assume I'll get a letterbox display with black borders.
As long as you have an DVI port, you can use a HDMI-DVI cable to connect the PS3 directly to it (and then get audio through the standard AV cable or an optical audio cable). Pretty sure games will be letterboxed, but otherwise it will work the same as if you're hooking it up to an HDTV.

Although I hear there used to be a requirement of having HDCP on your monitor for that to work, but supposedly it was removed in later firmwares so you can hook it up to any monitor. But I haven't had experience with this myself so I'm just going by what I've heard others say.

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Old Dec 29, 2007, 09:33 AM Local time: Dec 29, 2007, 03:33 PM #299 of 836
After a little research, it seems like my monitor doesn't support HDCP, so if Sony did not remove it I definitely need to buy a new monitor. It seems unlikely Sony would remove that anyway, because... it's apparently part of the HDMI specification, and the PS3 is sold as compliant with that. I feel like I should have a widescreen anyway, so I'll just go shopping once my wallet has taken some time to regenerate.

Thanks for the advice, it's going to come in handy on my search. I hope I can find something that does acceptable double-duty. The PS3 and the PC are the only sources of high resolution content I have, so it would make sense to me to integrate them while keeping my SD TV around for the old consoles.

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Old Dec 29, 2007, 10:12 AM #300 of 836
Most definately. Last thing a person wants on their new HDTV is a HUD burn-in of an old NES or SNES game. heh heh

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