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Chocorific |
Mythbusting proper lossless rips
Hi there,
inspired by some discussion about lossless ripping on the #gamemp3s IRC chan (which resulted in me being kicked from the chan), I wrote this little "essay":
liquid EDIT: It's now also available in the #gamemp3s comment area (http://www.gamemp3s.net/2009/09/12/lets-take-some-e/). I know it's not exactly on-topic there but it looks like they really need it there. EDIT2: It was available... for a short time. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Chocorific |
@blah: Please read what Msia did write in the #gamemp3s release thread. They have this strange policy that enforces the use of the LAME encoder in EAC. I mean, they can just do whatever they want. But this policy is certainly stupid. How ya doing, buddy? |
Chocorific |
@Zergrinch: No, you're missing the point. I'm not requesting them to release the lossless rip. The main question is why they have this policy, which makes absolutely no sense.
i) Rerip the discs with LAME set as an external compressor ii) Transcode my lossless rip to MP3 via LAME Both i) and ii) are going to give identical results. Again, my question is "Why is ii) forbidden, but i) allowed". This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Chocorific |
And I think I have to state this again. This topic was never about getting the album released. That would be a nice side effect, but that's not the main point. The main point still is whether or not this rule makes sense. If I wanted to release it I could just transcode it and modify the information in the header of the logfile. It would be indistinguishable from a rerip.
I have the impression that this topic is rather a dogma than a rule. That would also explain better why I was kicked from the chan. Practicing rules as an end in itself, well... that's masturbation... (to pick up Kaleb.G's comment)
Even if I would post a pic of me holding the album, that would prove nothing. There will always be a rest of doubt. Like I already said to Msia, at some point you have to trust the one on the other side of the net. If they (#gamemp3s) can't do that, than that's fine with me. But I don't really see any obligations to do any more advances. Credit for releasing goes to #gamemp3s and not me (plus I don't want any credit). I don't gain anything from supplying the album to them. And I don't lose anything if they don't want it. However what I'm not going to do: Doing work twice just because of some ruleset that makes no sense in this context. Everything is available: The logfile, the cuesheet (I even submitted AccuRip results) and the original WAVs. You just have to pipe them through LAME and copy the tags. I simply don't get why this is forbidden.... I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
Chocorific |
There is the proper lossless rip which is still uploaded and also a VBR V2 encode. We're talking about the amagami OSTs here, which you can find in the Iwadare discography thread, which was started by me. I just thought it would be nice to also have it on #gamemp3s, in case the MU links go down. And it probably reaches a few more people there.
I was speaking idiomatically. |
Chocorific |
Are you paying me for doing this? It's pointless anyway, what is the point in me doing a ABX here?? No, like I already said, I don't have any obligations to do anything more. I provided a basis with the essay, everything else is "private study". I have backed up all my arguments with hard facts. If you're resistant to learning then I can't do anything about it You still seem to have the impression that I want to convince anyone on the "other side", eventually leading to the release of the album on #gamemp3s. Again, I don't really care about that. Yes, it would be nice to have the album released, but that's all. Would be nice, nothing more. The motivation for the essay came after I got kicked from the chan. I sorted my thoughts and wrote down what I could not say in the chan. If it helps some people to clear up some doubts about transcoding lossless material, then that's cool. If it makes user B realize that he/she was wrong, even better. If not, well, I don't really care. People have to be willing to learn and that's clearly not the case when I say: We're doing it this way, because it was always done this way. Most people (also Secret Squirrel) here seem to believe that my "goal" is to get this released. Again, this is not my motivation. If it was I would already have a torrent up on a small tracker and a link posted in the #gamemp3s comment area. I also would like to remind you all of the discussion in this thread: http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/my...on-thread.html (comment #29 for example) Back then it was about "when is a MP3 broken". What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
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