Ys The Ark of Napishtim Music Question (PAL Version)

Yesterday I got the PAL version of Ys The Ark of Napishtim (PS2) and browsing through the credits in the gaming manual I noticed something weird. No mention of Falcom Sound Team, instead there´s an obscure "Hawaii Audio Team" (composer names: Lisle Moore, Brady Ellis, Tino Salki, James Guymon, Kurt Bestor, John Hancock, Chuck E. Myers). I know that there was the intention to replace the famous Falcom OST with alternative music for the western release - US fans were protesting against the change and the soundtrack remained untouched.

Now I feel kinda pissed, the music was one of the primary aspects for me buying the game. Unfortunately no european reviewer ever refered to the possible change, there seems to be no information on the internet either. Now I´d like to know if the music of the PAL version really has been altered. I can´t check for myself, because I don´t own a PS2 yet (it should arrive next week). If the game doesn´t feature the original soundtrack (which I mean literally), I´ll have to get rid of it and buy the US version.

Maybe there are PAL gamers (or other Falcom fans) who can clear this up? Thanks in advance.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Why don't you download the OST to make sure? =/

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Which OST do you mean? I have the OST done by Falcom, but I can´t listen to the music in the actual game to compare if it´s the same, because I still have no PS2. I tried ripping it on my PC but it looks like extracting Psf2 files is not that easy and requires some skills. And I´ve yet to find an "Arc of Napisthim PAL OST" (which naturally won´t exist anyway).

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Ah ... I've got to admit I didnt think you could have bought the game without owning a PS2 ...

Well hmm, I guess we're waiting for someone who played the PAL game, now.

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Interestingly enough, I never noticed anybody complaining about it. I guess most PAL gamers who bought the game are not familiar with Ys and its music (and those who are most likely imported the game as it became available in the US). I did notice that the music of Napishtim did not recieve too much attention in most German magazine reviews, some even said that it was just average and shallow - which might be an indication for an alternate OST. On the other hand, it´s just a matter of taste and I guess not everyone is a fanatic when it comes to traditional Falcom tunes. Well, I´ll know for sure when I´m able to check it out myself, but it would be cool if anybody could confirm or deny it just now.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Duh. I need to stop answering threads in the morning when I am still lacking coffee. I kept reading "Oath in Felghana" instead of "Ark of Napishtim". >_<

And yes, Ark of Napishtim music was altered in the US version BUT they added the original music as a bonus option in the end. I don't know about the EU version, but I don't see why they would have removed that option.

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Originally Posted by niki

Duh. I need to stop answering threads in the morning when I am still lacking coffee. I kept reading "Oath in Felghana" instead of "Ark of Napishtim". >_<

And yes, Ark of Napishtim music was altered in the US version BUT they added the original music as a bonus option in the end. I don't know about the EU version, but I don't see why they would have removed that option.

*drinks another cup*

Good morning niki, hope you are feeling more active right now.

I didn´t know that the US version actually had alternative music, so how did you access the genuine soundtrack? Via option menu screen (the manual does not indicate that such an option exists) or through a cheat? Honestly, when it comes to european ports everything is possible, but as you said, scrapping the music option doesn´t make sense at all.

Btw. what happened to your Falcom Wiki site?

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Well, I'm only repeating what I heard/read, as I never played the PS2 version at all myself. I think it was just a regular option. =/

And it's still there, only at a different URL. I lost some data in the webhost move so I can't say I'm that motivated about it, but heh I still do tiny updates when I feel like it. ^_^;

http://www.raborak.com/saladedemais/....php/Main_Page

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I actually did a rip of the orchestrated "additional" songs that they included with the game in the US version. The actual game retained the original soundtrack for us, while Crevia's Trials only used the orchestrated alternate music. The orchestrated pieces were supposed to be part of the entire soundtrack until people bitched en masse to Konami about it, and they not only changed it back but allowed us to play both their original PS2 port and the PC port on the PS2 version.

I'm not sure if they've officially released the orchestrated alternative tracks on disc since then, but my rip should still be floating around somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Kostaki

I'm not sure if they've officially released the orchestrated alternative tracks on disc since then, but my rip should still be floating around somewhere.

http://www.gmronline.com/info.asp?CatNumber=none0184

Can't remember how it was released though.

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@niki thx for the url

Hmm, so those "new" or "additional" tracks are probably just a bonus and not suitable to replace the original score. I´m just asking myself what´s the deal with "Hawaii Audio Team" and those seven (!) composers listed in the credits. And no mention of Falcom Sound Team after all. Strange.

Double Post:
Dunno of this indicates anything, but this is what the bgmdef.txt on the DVD looks like:

; id file
0 BGM_STOP
83 New_Cannan3
81 YS6_03
75 YS6_06
67 YS6_07
71 YS6_10
74 YS6_12
66 YS6_13
77 YS6_14
78 YS6_19
41 YS6_ORG01
64 YS6_ORG03
43 YS6_ORG04
65 YS6_ORG05
44 YS6_ORG06
59 YS6_ORG07
45 YS6_ORG08
47 YS6_ORG09
46 YS6_ORG10
48 YS6_ORG11
49 YS6_ORG12
50 YS6_ORG13
51 YS6_ORG14
52 YS6_ORG15
53 YS6_ORG16
70 YS6_ORG17
54 YS6_ORG18
55 YS6_ORG19
60 YS6_ORG20
61 YS6_ORG21
56 YS6_ORG22
62 YS6_ORG23
42 YS6_ORG24
58 YS6_ORG25
68 YS6_ORG28
69 YS6_ORG29
63 YS6_ORG30

Unfortunately no track titles, but maybe somebody could compare it with the file in the US game, if it´s identical I guess chances are good they didn´t change anything.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'm pretty sure Hiroyuki Nanba composed the orchestrated soundtrack for Ys VI that was ultimately rejected.

That's why that Hawaii sound team is a definite shock.

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Darn, my PS2 still hasn´t arrived yet. I decided to have it modded, so I didn´t just buy it in a shop on the street. I hope I´ll have it until friday at least.

Slightly off-topic but similar aspect: What exactly is the soundtrack of Guilty Gear XX #Reload? Since there appears to be no OST (apart from the alternate Korean version) I assume it´s identical to Guilty Gear XX (which isn´t a bad thing to me, I love it), am I right?

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Originally Posted by Cyrus

Slightly off-topic but similar aspect: What exactly is the soundtrack of Guilty Gear XX #Reload? Since there appears to be no OST (apart from the alternate Korean version) I assume it´s identical to Guilty Gear XX (which isn´t a bad thing to me, I love it), am I right?

That's right. The Japanese version of GG XX #Reload has the same soundtrack as the regular version (i.e. GG XX).

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Thx seanne. At least one thing that´s cleared up for now.

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