[Movie] WWE/TNA fanfiction thread

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Originally Posted by CapturedPenguin

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Midgets, dick jokes, bare naked asses. Oh DX how I missed you so

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Originally Posted by Wojo

I said that WCW sucked dick

WCW "sucking dick" was the catalyst that gave rise to the entire "attitude" era of the WWF in order to regain it's win over the rating wars. There would be no Stone Cold Steve Austin, Mankind, Corporate Ministries, DX, or any of the sort if WCW had not have been winning the ratings war for a year and a half.

It's people like you that don't give WCW enough credit for being a fucking viable wrestling company that gave a lot back to the industry. Stand behind the entire goddamned industry for once, not a single fucking promotion.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by The B0mb

DX was never anything but a nWo rip off. Even tho I have always HATED DX. (I always watched WCW back in the day and nothing else)But even I was dissapointed. They played KING of KINGs? WTF? They should have played the DX theme song or busted out the shirts. All they did was pose and had JR screaming DX was back before HHH or HBK announced it was in fact true. I thought it was lame the way JR was yelling DX is back when all they were doing was fighting the spirit squad.

No. I don't agree with you. what they did was right for the first time. They didn't make of it a big surprise, they gave the fans a taste of what to expect on the next RAW so they do tune on the next RAW to see if DX is REALLY back! Remember last time DX was to come back? Michaels ended on a wheel chair! I know this is not like last time, but what they did was perfect to get fans tuning in last night.

Originally Posted by The B0mb

WWE has just been like this for about 5 years now. Living off their history. They need to focus on NEW! We want to see NEW stuff. Not things that were "cool" in the late nighties. Sure a small % of that is fine. Everyone likes to see big names return. Stone Cold should not come back. But we all know that he will and stunner everyone and then walk out the next day. Stone Cold can be like Hogan and have guest appearences. He will never return to full time wrestling.

If you call people like Carlito or Masters or MNM NEW then i can tell you one thing: WWE is as good as DEAD! If they focus on those people, then they are wasting their time and better go home instead. WWE is living from its past and it took Vince many years to figure that out, hence why the past is haunting the present. As for Stone Cold, see the reaction of the fans whenever he comes back. I know he won't be coming back as a full time wrestler, but his presence from now and then gets Vince money, which is why he's bringing the past back. NEW means less money and OLD means a lot more money.

Originally Posted by The B0mb

As for ECW.. is they have a chanceto change things if Vince wanted to change things. ECW could be where the new guys are made and pushed. Then they can go onto the WWE "Big time". But after tuesday ECW is not looking good. I hope they turn it around. Or at least make ZOMBIE WORLD CHAMPION!!

New guys? Here also getting new guys into ECW will be like shooting ECW in the head. ECW will die out if they bring new guys, hence why the OLD great people who made its legacy are back.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Kostaki

WCW "sucking dick" was the catalyst that gave rise to the entire "attitude" era of the WWF in order to regain it's win over the rating wars. There would be no Stone Cold Steve Austin, Mankind, Corporate Ministries, DX, or any of the sort if WCW had not have been winning the ratings war for a year and a half.

Thats an invalid argument sorry. That's a little something called competition. Thats like saying without Coca-Cola, Pepsi wouldnt be where they are right now.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Yes, because WCW Fired Austin because they were winning the Monday Night Wars

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Wojo

Thats an invalid argument sorry. That's a little something called competition. Thats like saying without Coca-Cola, Pepsi wouldnt be where they are right now.

LOL. Invalid my ass.

What you fail to realize, is that what you're saying actually is true. Without Coca-Cola, Pepsi wouldn't be where it is. Without Pepsi, Coca-Cola wouldn't be where they are. Each of them have aggressively marketed against each other and have literally swamped out brands like RC Cola because of such competition. Remove one or the other from the equation, and a brand like RC Cola might be on top right now. That's how it works.

Without WCW, the WWE would not be where they are right now. Without WCW, the WWE has been failing horribly in keeping interesting storylines going while building new stars. The entire attitude era was born solely on the premise to oust WCW, like in the example above with Coca-Cola and Pepsi. The AOL/Time Warner merger is what killed WCW, not industry competition. Only now that TNA has emerged, are they taking a stance on attempting to bring back what was once interesting.

This is fact, as much as you'd like to consider it invalid.

Originally Posted by Slash

Yes, because WCW Fired Austin because they were winning the Monday Night Wars

Steve Williams was released from WCW long before the "Monday Night Wars" even began. He went to ECW for a year before actually going to the WWF. Remember, he came into the WWF at the time not as Stone Cold, but as the Ringmaster managed by Ted DiBiase. He then developed into the Stone Cold gimmick and it took off in 1997 and 1998 which is one major piece of what turned the tide in WWF's favor. I will admit, the Stone Cold character was one of the best characters the WWF has produced and it's sometimes tough to find the right formula for the right wrestler. Bischoff failed to do it, but Vince and company struck gold with it. Had WCW not fired Steve Williams, and had ECW put the title on him when he was feuding with Mikey Whipwreck, there is a huge chance that there would be no Stone Cold Steve Austin. This is how it works.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Kostaki

LOL. Invalid my ass.

What you fail to realize, is that what you're saying actually is true. Without Coca-Cola, Pepsi wouldn't be where it is. Without Pepsi, Coca-Cola wouldn't be where they are. Each of them have aggressively marketed against each other and have literally swamped out brands like RC Cola because of such competition. Remove one or the other from the equation, and a brand like RC Cola might be on top right now. That's how it works.

Without WCW, the WWE would not be where they are right now. Without WCW, the WWE has been failing horribly in keeping interesting storylines going while building new stars. The entire attitude era was born solely on the premise to oust WCW, like in the example above with Coca-Cola and Pepsi. The AOL/Time Warner merger is what killed WCW, not industry competition. Only now that TNA has emerged, are they taking a stance on attempting to bring back what was once interesting.

This is fact, as much as you'd like to consider it invalid.


Steve Williams was released from WCW long before the "Monday Night Wars" even began. He went to ECW for a year before actually going to the WWF. Remember, he came into the WWF at the time not as Stone Cold, but as the Ringmaster managed by Ted DiBiase. He then developed into the Stone Cold gimmick and it took off in 1997 and 1998 which is one major piece of what turned the tide in WWF's favor. I will admit, the Stone Cold character was one of the best characters the WWF has produced and it's sometimes tough to find the right formula for the right wrestler. Bischoff failed to do it, but Vince and company struck gold with it. Had WCW not fired Steve Williams, and had ECW put the title on him when he was feuding with Mikey Whipwreck, there is a huge chance that there would be no Stone Cold Steve Austin. This is how it works.

Don't forget about WCW's wonderful ratings idea by giving the Heavyweight Championship to David Arquette.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Slash

Don't forget about WCW's wonderful ratings idea by giving the Heavyweight Championship to David Arquette.

I never said that WCW was perfect in any way, both companies have tried ridiculous things in order to grab higher ratings. Vince McMahon has also given himself at the title on one occasion too. I can pretty easily compare the Arquette bit with Vince putting "God" in storylines and in matches as well as Katie Vick.

They went back and forth, did a lot of good and a lot of shit. Again, that's how it works.

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Originally Posted by Kostaki

Steve Williams was released from WCW long before the "Monday Night Wars" even began. He went to ECW for a year before actually going to the WWF. Remember, he came into the WWF at the time not as Stone Cold, but as the Ringmaster managed by Ted DiBiase. He then developed into the Stone Cold gimmick and it took off in 1997 and 1998 which is one major piece of what turned the tide in WWF's favor. I will admit, the Stone Cold character was one of the best characters the WWF has produced and it's sometimes tough to find the right formula for the right wrestler. Bischoff failed to do it, but Vince and company struck gold with it. Had WCW not fired Steve Williams, and had ECW put the title on him when he was feuding with Mikey Whipwreck, there is a huge chance that there would be no Stone Cold Steve Austin. This is how it works.

What happened to Austin is what is happening now to Jeff Jarett in TNA. He never was that great in WCW and was fairly decent (while a lot consider him to be a bad wrestler). Yet in TNA, he has found his place and maybe he's still a bad wrestler but he's playing the heel part pretty good. So if WCW was still around, he wouldn't have had all this glory (that he probably doesn't deserve...Yet i am not here to judge).

Another exemple: JBL. If it wasn't for the WWE not wanting those old WWF tag teams like the Hardyz, the Dudleyz, APA, Edge & Christian, he would be a heel title holder for so long. So the disolution of those Tag Teams gave JBL his push, Jeff Hardy his push in TNA etc... So whenever something is gone, someone takes advantage of it.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Those two examples are good with the exception of a few minor details. Jeff Jarrett in general is the one that basically helped create the TNA brand, and most of his heel gimmick such as him beating people over the head with guitars came about because of WCW. But your last part holds perfectly true, if WCW was still in business there may have been no TNA. Though comparing Jarrett and Austin's popularity is beyond impossible.

JBL like John Cena is one of those weird cases where no one particularly gave a damn about their title runs because they're horrible wrestlers, yet they remained with a job and the title for a good long time. Though JBL in general only became "JBL" because Ron Simmons retired due to internal depushing of the tag team division.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Kostaki

LOL. Invalid my ass.

What you fail to realize, is that what you're saying actually is true. Without Coca-Cola, Pepsi wouldn't be where it is. Without Pepsi, Coca-Cola wouldn't be where they are. Each of them have aggressively marketed against each other and have literally swamped out brands like RC Cola because of such competition. Remove one or the other from the equation, and a brand like RC Cola might be on top right now. That's how it works.

Without WCW, the WWE would not be where they are right now. Without WCW, the WWE has been failing horribly in keeping interesting storylines going while building new stars. The entire attitude era was born solely on the premise to oust WCW, like in the example above with Coca-Cola and Pepsi. The AOL/Time Warner merger is what killed WCW, not industry competition. Only now that TNA has emerged, are they taking a stance on attempting to bring back what was once interesting.

This is fact, as much as you'd like to consider it invalid.

Ok congratulations you just discovered capitalism. I still dont see what your point is and it seems like a colossal waste of time explaining it. I said WCW sucks and that is my opinion because I dont like it and never liked it. End of story.

FELIPE NO

Originally Posted by Kostaki

Those two examples are good with the exception of a few minor details. Jeff Jarrett in general is the one that basically helped create the TNA brand, and most of his heel gimmick such as him beating people over the head with guitars came about because of WCW. But your last part holds perfectly true, if WCW was still in business there may have been no TNA. Though comparing Jarrett and Austin's popularity is beyond impossible.

I did NOT intend to compare Jarett to Austin in ANY way. Austin is a legend, Jarett is just another wanabe who thinks he attained fame. But Jarett was an exemple to how some made a business out of WCW running out. Jarett hasn't changed a bit, he's still the same old boring Jarett from WCW, but at least he's the big picture here (Unfortunatly!). A lot of people say that TNA is the successor of WCW because of the general chaos, the spontaneous shows that seem so real while they're nothing near. WWE seems more stereotyped, like in every show, there is a certain patern followed and everything is typically programed. WCW and TNA are more chaotic. You don't know what will happen, who will come out, who will win. Which is what is keeping TNA holding!

Originally Posted by Kostaki

JBL like John Cena is one of those weird cases where no one particularly gave a damn about their title runs because they're horrible wrestlers, yet they remained with a job and the title for a good long time. Though JBL in general only became "JBL" because Ron Simmons retired due to internal depushing of the tag team division.

Do you know why JBL or Cena (especially Cena!) had the title for so long? One reason: MONEY!

Vince thinks this way:
Vince=Money
Money=Champion
Champion=Cena because Cena=Money (guess how many fan bought the Cena T-Shirt or the chains or tuned in to see their little champion rise above all the other wrestlers).

So until Cena stopped bringing Vince money, he was still champion. THe second he found that something else is a better money dispenser (ECW), he gave the title to the best ECW guy around.

So at the end, it's all about Vince getting rich.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Why is it the best WWE shows happen in Fayetteville when I'm not there.

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The whole DX segment had my laughing so hard I was almost crying. "Shane.. are you mildly retarded."

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by dagget

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The whole DX segment had my laughing so hard I was almost crying. "Shane.. are you mildly retarded."

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I loved how all that crap poured down on the MacMahons and The Spirit Squad. I also liked when Triple H when he was acting like the chairman, I like dicks, small dicks, big dicks, short dicks, long dicks, fat dicks, skinny dicks, white dicks, small dicks, I love dicks! Also when Michaels was doing Shane's little dance was funny too.

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DX is the best thing that happened to RAW since the split of the two brands!!!

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by dagget

Why is it the best WWE shows happen in Fayetteville when I'm not there.

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The whole DX segment had my laughing so hard I was almost crying. "Shane.. are you mildly retarded."

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Dude, i was laughing my ass off when they showed that clip of Vince McMahon's performance at the 1987 Slammy Awards

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Anyone think we should ditch this 20 page topic in favor of smaller and easier to read topics?
Or at least split the brands like 1 topic for TNA and one for WWE.

Anyway, last weeks TNA was pretty good. I was like "holy hell" when Team canada got disbanded. They were jobbing alot, but with a better push, they couldve been a more dominant faction. Canadian destroyer ftw
And chrisitian seems to be going into a heel direction lately. I really dont care cause this guy was practically handed the belt. hes been champ for months and on TNA a bit longer, yet Ive only seen him fight twice, and it wasnt that impressive. So Im placing my money on joe to win the fatal fourway and get the belt from jarret.

How ya doing, buddy?

Why bother splitting? No one has talked about TNA matches..for like..ever.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

there hasnt been any tna topics, as everything seems to be focused on wwe.
I also dont like skimming through 20 pages just to see if a topic has been covered.
If there were individual topics, more can be discussed, but keeping everything in one thread limits discussion cause people are trying to keep up with the events rather than small details which would still be informative. Should there be topics, they wouldnt make a huge difference, but it would be more convenient.

Though its just a suggestion.

FELIPE NO

With both DX and ECW's return, TNA has been a washout. Apparently, people care more about seeing Triple H moon McMahon or Sandman beat himself in the head with a beer can before a match (fun fun fun) and then legally beat someone with a kendo stick during a match (also fun) than seeing whatever the hell TNA is showing.

How ya doing, buddy?

Hey, I liked seeing Sandman beating the hell out of the stripper because it was actually one of the WWE creative writers. Sadly though...who loves the fact that in ECW, there are extreme rule matches...lol....EXTREME Fucking RULE Matches!? WTF...Bring back Jericho...

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I honestly was pissed off when Jeff Jarrett walked out of Slammiversary as champ (well, he was "stripped" of it at the end). but only to have Jim Cornette give him back the title 2 weeks later... Then have 4 (or was it 5) people battle it out at the next PPV, with the winner getting a shot at Jarrett that night, all while Jarrett not even having a match of his own? That's almost as bad (or worse) as the hijinks surrounding Triple H when he had the World title.

ECW needs to get be on it's own as oppsed to having these "interpromotional" matches. ECW doesn't need the like of Edge and John Cena "helping out" and being on TV nor does it need Vince McMahon (and his good-for-nothing WWE creative writing team) in complete control of the show. The hardcore WWE fans really bring down the atmosphere that a real ECW crowd brings to the table.

DX brought entertainment where it was really needed. They've pulled some wacky shennanigans since their reformation, and always came away laughing. But of course, the reality is that it won't last forever. Honestly, Vince and Shane really need to get off TV. When was the last time Mr. McMahon made an appearance on Smackdown? And Batista's coming back when?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Batista, Back this friday.

---TNA

TNA is lost right now because they aren't like...the ECW of Wrestling anymore because well...ECW is back.

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they're really pushing that joe will get the title because he lost the X-div title to senshi so yeah

WWE

Its funny that WWE is making fun of Joe too with Umaga.

WWE managed to get Sabu back and there is always a chance they can pull Raven and Rhino back to WWECW. Sandman is partially screwed because Metallica is being a bunch of dickwads and wanting shit loads of money to use that song...its a matter of time before WWE does a cover of the song.

People needed to Make ECW really ECW
-Raven
-Meanie
-Simon DeanNova
-Rhino..cmon...the last TV champ and heavyweight champ?
-Super Crazy
-Rey Rey
-Tanaka
-Mike "Sellout" Awesome

I'm sure that just those few can help the newcomers from OVW and DSW become ECW wrestlers...plus if the house of hardcore was opened up again...that'd be nice.

Axl fucked up the thing for the Balls/Axl team because Axl No-showed and thats gay.

Unfortunately Lance Storm is no longer going to wrestle so the Impact players are out of the question.

I like how they are still making Tommy Dreamer the lover of violence which is good to have back.

I've also read reports that Test is fairly impressive in ECW but I wish ECW would have control from only Dreamer and Heyman.

How ya doing, buddy?

rofl.

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NIP SLIP omg.... I love DX. I almost hate to see it end when it will eventually.

Also, why the main event today is

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RVD vs Cena vs Edge for the title

Is because

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RVD was busted for pot with Sabu.

lol.

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