X-Men 3

Originally Posted by LeHah

The movies and the comics are such polar opposites in so many ways, they barely connect to each other. While the Pheonix Saga in the cartoon was pretty spot-on in terms of the original story - they even animated panels from the comic for the cartoon - X3 only has Jean as a "greater entity". Thats as far as the connection goes.

(As for X3 - Iceman doesn't die - but something does happen to Rogue)

Thanks for the response. From what I saw from the Marvel Comic special they had where they identified the characters, it does seem far off base (Iceman is suppose to be in his 20's and never really dated Rogue according to the special). From what it sounds like, it seems as though the director may have tried to incorportate WAY too many things in the film.

I'm not a fan of chick-flicks, so reading this statement from the director has me worried: "“My input really has been just trying to make a more emotional film. A film with more heart and more pathos.” Hmm. Ratner is in talks to return for a spin-off film about Wolverine."--Source

I think the first 2 X-Men films had a good balance of "pathos" (wow, someone else knows that word) and butt-kicking action, which has me wondering if they are just showing some of the action parts from a movie that could easily go sappy if he overboards on the emotion.

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Originally Posted by Visavi

Iceman is suppose to be in his 20's and never really dated Rogue according to the special.

Bobby Drake has been with the X-Men since it's original inception back in the 60s. Rogue came onboard in the late 70s(?) after a stint with the Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants. She absorbed the powers of Ms Marvel which is where she gained her invulnerbility/flight/strength - they covered this topic in an episode of the cartoon.

I was speaking idiomatically.

try mid-ish 80s. That's when Rogue joined. It was in Uncanny X-Men 171.

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Ah, you're correct. I remembered the cover but got the date wrong completely.

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Originally Posted by LeHah

Bobby Drake has been with the X-Men since it's original inception back in the 60s. Rogue came onboard in the late 70s(?) after a stint with the Brotherhood Of Evil Mutants. She absorbed the powers of Ms Marvel which is where she gained her invulnerbility/flight/strength - they covered this topic in an episode of the cartoon.

I like that episode of the cartoon series, if it's the one I'm thinking of. Anyway, I knew the comic book was out in the 60's, but the profile they gave for Iceman when he was created was that he was in his 20's (not that he was written in the 80's but that was his age when the series began supposedly). It was on the History Channel in case someone else caught it.

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Thanks to Darko, I was able to hear the X-Men 3 score a couple days early. (I tend to get score CDs weeks in advanced but my editor sometimes keeps the really good ones for himself, the jerk)

I didn't know what to expect from John Powell - drumloops? synth? - but it wasn't this. This is really, really wonderful. The theme for the X-Men is bigger than Ottman's and the motif for Jean/Phoenix is beautiful and unrestrained. Lots of anvils too - think Don Davis, not James Horner. By the film's finale ("Phoenix Rises"), the score reaches Lord Of The Rings perportions. I know I still have half the year left but this is probably the best action score of 2006.

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Originally Posted by LeHah

I didn't know what to expect from John Powell - drumloops? synth? - but it wasn't this. This is really, really wonderful. The theme for the X-Men is bigger than Ottman's and the motif for Jean/Phoenix is beautiful and unrestrained. Lots of anvils too - think Don Davis, not James Horner. By the film's finale ("Phoenix Rises"), the score reaches Lord Of The Rings perportions. I know I still have half the year left but this is probably the best action score of 2006.

Seriously?

I enjoyed Ottman's score, thought it was well done. But if you're right and it is better, then I have yet another reason to see this movie. While an excellent score cannot save a bad movie, it can still make it bearable and in time, it will result in me purchasing the soundtrack.

Is there a way you can upload it?

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I'm curious, has FOX ever bothered to market the cartoon series on DVD? If they have, anyone know where I can get my hands on a copy? I can still remember in elementary school, coming home and turning on the X-Men cartoons so long ago. I'd love to see them again.

As for The Last Stand, I'm looking forward to it. The 7 minute trailer on Dell seemed just fine with me, but I'm more interested how they'll translate some of the various new characters into the film (As I recall, Colossus was in love with Kitty Pryde). I can only hope that it'll be a good film and I'll get my moneys worth.

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I dont think so, never as a complete series at least. I'm pretty sure, however, that you can buy fan-made dvds of the series on e-bay.

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Thats too bad. They'd probably make a reasonable amount of money puting them into production too. I'll have to check eBay when I get home later. Thanks.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by BucPride

I'm curious, has FOX ever bothered to market the cartoon series on DVD?

Its funny you should mention this. I found this link somehow - http://www.mediaenterprises.tv/produ...roductid=16281

Its a rip off though. Don't bother.

The X-Men cartoon plays on Toon Disney last time I checked, along with The Tick, Spider-Man and even Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends.

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Originally Posted by LeHah

I didn't know what to expect from John Powell - drumloops? synth? - but it wasn't this. This is really, really wonderful. The theme for the X-Men is bigger than Ottman's and the motif for Jean/Phoenix is beautiful and unrestrained. Lots of anvils too - think Don Davis, not James Horner. By the film's finale ("Phoenix Rises"), the score reaches Lord Of The Rings perportions. I know I still have half the year left but this is probably the best action score of 2006.

So we're finally on the same page about a Powell score.

I hope we get do this again sometime!

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Originally Posted by LeHah

The X-Men cartoon plays on Toon Disney last time I checked, along with The Tick, Spider-Man and even Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends.

I thought I was the only person within this generation that has heard of Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends. It's corny, but I still watch it whenever I have the chance. The most recent episode had the X-Men on it and had Cyberia (?) take over Cerebro and Firestar had to stop repressing her memory of her ex and fight him.

Also, Dave McCoy from MSN Movies wrote a blog entry earlier and it wasn't encouraging, but I still can't wait for the film...a little worried, but anticipating the release.

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Originally Posted by LeHah

Its funny you should mention this. I found this link somehow - http://www.mediaenterprises.tv/produ...roductid=16281

Its a rip off though. Don't bother.

That sucks. What I've found on eBay is encouraging though. Hopefully, I'll get one of the DVD sets to check out all the old episodes. Eventually, I'll have to look on Toon Disney to check out The Tick.

How ya doing, buddy?

Is anyone really excited about this?

Even after all the few dozen of minutes of crap that's been surfing around?

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Hey! Ebert And Roper are going to review X-Men 3 today. Check your local listings.

EDIT: They gave the movie two thumbs up. Over all it was a pretty good episode - they gave a good review for the DaVinci Code but also pointed out its flaws (its better as a movie than a book, a lot of the stuff is far-fetched, the controversy around it is BS, etc) and they gave a pretty glowing review for X3 (Good performances, has some ethical questions that can be applied else where, you find yourself agreeing with Magneto's POV, etc)

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That's great. 4 more days till it's released over here and needless to say, I can't wait.

I was speaking idiomatically.

I apologize if this is a little off-topic, but does anyone know who the American Indian person in some of the X-Men comics and "Spiderman & his Amazing Friends" episode?

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never saw the show but i'd take a guess and say forge. He's the only native american character I can think of outside of moonstar.

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Wasn't there also a fella who was given powers by ancestral spirits who was native american as well? Can't remember his name but I 'm fairly certain he was a really minor character.

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I am definitely looking forward to X3. I will be very interested to see how much time is supposed to have passed between X2 and X3. It seems like things will be happening on a grand scale in X3, which to me should mean that quite a bit of time has passed.

I think Rogue is interesting, because she's not really Rogue. I think they morphed the role that Jubilee plays into Rogue's character, so that Wolverine could be a father figure to her. They really need to find a way to remove the lameness of her current state of power in the new film.

I can see how they added Beast and Angel to please fans of the comic book, but I really don't see how they will add to the film in a serious, positive way. (Except that Grammar's acting should be superb.)

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Originally Posted by speculative

I think Rogue is interesting, because she's not really Rogue. I think they morphed the role that Jubilee plays into Rogue's character, so that Wolverine could be a father figure to her.

Before Jubilee it was Shadowcat/Spirte/Kitty Pryde. They just recycled the same father/daughter relationship from better years.

Originally Posted by speculative

They really need to find a way to remove the lameness of her current state of power in the new film.

Hehehehehehehehehe

Spoiler:

Rogue takes the cure at the end of the movie

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Lehah that isn't fair. I am so tempted to see what is in that spoiler. I can imagine what it might say though.

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Well, keep in mind of something. The original end of X2 was different - so who's to say anything of changes to X3?

Magneto kills Stryker by impaling/strangling him with chains and Jean just "dies". The part with Stryker "drowning" and the Pheonix thing was a very last moment change to the film - so late that they show Magneto kill Stryker in the comic book adaptation.

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