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Why is the murder rate in the US so high?
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Old Mar 4, 2008, 12:35 AM Local time: Mar 4, 2008, 12:35 AM #1 of 83
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I'm not pretending that felons don't have means to obtain firearms. Very few gun murders are committed with guns that are licensed to the killer, I'd imagine. But that's no reason to make it easy for everyone to pick up a gun.
It's pretty simple to get a gun illegally regardless of the laws. The guns just have to disappear from the system. They're either "stolen" and have the serial numbers filed off, or they're produced in black market shops.

So long as guns are ubiquitous, there will also be a lot of illegal firearms floating around. You can't stop it short of draconian measures that shouldn't have to be put up with.

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Old Mar 4, 2008, 12:46 AM Local time: Mar 4, 2008, 12:46 AM #2 of 83
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(where it's easier to get a gun legally than illegally)
Shouldn't this be considered a good thing? If legally owned firearms were being used in crimes that'd make them easier to track.

I think you're confusing the issue of how guns are acquired illegally in the first place.

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Old Mar 15, 2008, 02:48 AM Local time: Mar 15, 2008, 02:48 AM 1 #3 of 83
Maybe the reason so many blacks are criminals has more to do with drugs being one of the few ways to make money in the ghettos besides prostituting, than 50 Cent.

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Old Mar 15, 2008, 05:08 PM Local time: Mar 15, 2008, 05:08 PM #4 of 83
White kid doesn't understand crime causation and black culture? Well I never.

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Murder then turns out to a way of making more money, of finding your way out of the ghetto, of actually having a comfortable standing in life.
In black markets, murder is a tool to force out competition or to guarantee the honoring of informal contracts. That's what happens when business can't be run legitimately.

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Old Mar 15, 2008, 05:11 PM Local time: Mar 15, 2008, 05:11 PM 2 #5 of 83
Did you stop to think that maybe violent music is symptomatic of a problem and not the cause of it?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Mar 15, 2008, 05:16 PM Local time: Mar 15, 2008, 05:16 PM #6 of 83
So you think that Immortal Technique has more influence in regards to the "Don't Snitch" movement than police abuses and their incompetent protection of state's witnesses?

Just keep riding bikes around your cul-de-sac, honky. Tipper Gore could not link causation to suggestive lyrics, what makes you think you're right?

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Old Mar 15, 2008, 05:32 PM Local time: Mar 15, 2008, 05:32 PM #7 of 83
Rap music is only indicative of what people already think. Music speaks to people because it plays to their state of mind. If Public Enemy spoke to a disenfranchised demographic, it shouldn't have been surprising that a large portion of their fanbase was young white suburbanites.

Your claim that rap music influences behavior doesn't hold water, since the hyper masculine and misogynistic culture existed before Hip Hop was even folk music.

Blacksploitation Films embodied similar problems with black culture long before rap.

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Old Mar 15, 2008, 05:43 PM Local time: Mar 15, 2008, 05:43 PM #8 of 83
People do the soulja boy because they're retards, but soulja boy didn't make them retards, therefore QED you are an idiot.

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Old Mar 15, 2008, 05:52 PM Local time: Mar 15, 2008, 05:52 PM #9 of 83
Right, but you haven't shown why we should care about soulja boy's influence. Bad Rap is not a problem that needs to be addressed, it's the society that creates bad rappers like soulja boy, but you continue to insist on beating the Hip Hop stick like the uninformed middle class cracker you are.

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