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Any particular reason why 1024 x 768 is the default screen resolution?
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Old Apr 8, 2006, 06:26 PM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 01:26 AM #26 of 51
It's sad to see that people are actually stupid enough to run LCDs at non-native resolutions for work. Kinda defeats the purpose of getting such a display in the first place. Aside from the obvious saving of space.

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Old Apr 8, 2006, 06:30 PM Local time: Apr 8, 2006, 01:30 PM #27 of 51
Originally Posted by Roph
The computers at work, I turned a couple up to 1280x1024 (their native), and was told to put them back on 1024x768 =\
You know, I did the same thing at work a few times before (they are using those huge 22" CRT monitors too.) Nearly all of the people that use them on a daily basis would tell me to switch it back to 800x600 or 1024x768. But I think I convinced at least one to upgrade to 1152x864 =p.

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Old Apr 8, 2006, 09:57 PM Local time: Apr 8, 2006, 07:57 PM #28 of 51
I think it's only at 1024x768 because most people don't buy monitors above 17". Really good defaults for each size would be (balanced between resolution and ease of reading):
14" 640x480
15" 800x600
17" 1024x768
18" 1152x864
19" 1280x1024
21" 1600x1200
22" 2048x1536
23"+ Anything at or beyond this on a PC monitor is almost certainly in widescreen resoultions a or above 1920x1200)

That's how you should assess things. Anyone who runs at 800x600 on a 19" or above is really wasting the potential of their monitor. And usually I try to go for the highest resolution I can get 85Hz on (on a CRT, but considering I have an LCD now, why hold back? I pumped my resolution up to 1440x900 and it's easy on the eyes and gives me a lot of work space).

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Old Apr 8, 2006, 10:34 PM #29 of 51
well I've been following this thread and I decide to try to go higher then 1024x768. I tried 1280x1024 and really I don't like that, the text is SO small!! but from the reply of sega, I have a 18" monitor so I guessed
that the perfect resolution should be between 1024x768 and 1280x1024, I tried 1152x864 and really I think it's perfect XD so I guess I'll stay with that ^^ ( I may even try that in game if my comp can XD)

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Old Apr 9, 2006, 01:49 AM Local time: Apr 9, 2006, 05:19 PM #30 of 51
1280x1024 on a 19" LCD produces small text for me, and even smaller on a 17" hence why I'd rather get a 19" even though you get the same resolution. Sure it's finer on a 17" but for people doing anything with text, I think it's a bad idea. Probably is good for gaming though.

Having said that I have a 19" set at 1280x1024 and with 120dpi fonts. Sure everything looks big but I don't want to be inches away from the screen just to read the damn text. And dual monitors for the productivity. At work I sometimes work on workstations having 4 or more displays with 1600x1200 on each

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Old Apr 10, 2006, 12:57 PM #31 of 51
You can make the text bigger no matter what resolution you are using.

It may look fugly though.

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Old Apr 10, 2006, 02:22 PM #32 of 51
Originally Posted by wtran168
1280x1024 on a 19" LCD produces small text for me, and even smaller on a 17" hence why I'd rather get a 19" even though you get the same resolution. Sure it's finer on a 17" but for people doing anything with text, I think it's a bad idea. Probably is good for gaming though.
I use a 17" at 1280x1024, and I don't have any problems with text or anything. And yes, I'm using it at the default DPI fontsize.

I don't know what your problems are, guys. You must have really bad eyes, or something.

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Old Apr 10, 2006, 03:08 PM Local time: Apr 10, 2006, 08:08 PM #33 of 51
Originally Posted by RacinReaver
You know, I've never understood the complaining about a monitor at 60hz. I've never had one that had a higher refresh rate and I've never had problems sitting infront of them for 8+ hours a day. =\
It is because your eyes get used to the particular refresh rate so you don't notice that it is uncomfortable. However, once you do begin to use a higher refresh rate, for instance 85Hz, then return to 60Hz, your eyes will then notice the difference.

Personally I prefer higher resolutions because of the sheer workspace available. (Though whenever I step up a resolution, it eventually feels small.) At the moment it's running 1600x1200 at 75Hz. The computers used in my school are capped at 800x600 and isn't user changeable. Though the refresh rates are fine, the workspace is far too small to be efficient.

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 11:42 AM Local time: Apr 11, 2006, 09:42 AM #34 of 51
Originally Posted by Merv Burger
I use a 17" at 1280x1024, and I don't have any problems with text or anything. And yes, I'm using it at the default DPI fontsize.

I don't know what your problems are, guys. You must have really bad eyes, or something.
They probably can't stand watching a screen at 1280x1024 at below 85Hz. Last time I checked, most 17" CRT screens can't pull 1280x1024 at a refresh rate above 60-66Hz, which if they're like me, would strain their eyes to the point of pain.

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 11:56 AM Local time: Apr 11, 2006, 10:56 AM #35 of 51
Originally Posted by Merv Burger
I use a 17" at 1280x1024, and I don't have any problems with text or anything. And yes, I'm using it at the default DPI fontsize.

I don't know what your problems are, guys. You must have really bad eyes, or something.
I think it's just a case of not everyone being as lucky as me {in that I am farsighted}. Whenever someone is looking at my laptop screen {14.1" with 1400 x 1050 resolution}, they will always make a comment to the effect of "how can you see that?" I like being able to sit five feet from my laptop screen and still read the text on it. I do this in the evenings when I'm sitting on my couch watching tv or playing video games, while my laptop is turned on with an realtime updating MLB scoreboard going. Thank you, farsightedness!

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 02:20 PM #36 of 51
I know some public libarary that are still on 640x480 and they're not 14 inches monitor. @_@

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 02:47 PM Local time: Apr 11, 2006, 12:47 PM #37 of 51
Originally Posted by BigCN401
I know some public libarary that are still on 640x480 and they're not 14 inches monitor. @_@
Generally government and business monitors tend to go for the lowest supported resolution by the OS. It's stupid, the highest resolution I've seen at a library was 800x600 on a 15" LCD, even though it probably wasn't even the native resolution.
Why buy LCDs when you're not going to run them at their native resolution?

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 03:19 PM #38 of 51
Amen to that. Saving space doesn't count for crap when your display is unreadable because of tearing.

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 03:29 PM Local time: Apr 11, 2006, 02:29 PM #39 of 51
I have users who have 19" LCDs running 800 x 600. This is not a joke. They had been using 15" LCDs, then we moved their department into a new building and one of the people who already worked there went by their area and was like "LOL how do you people use those postage stamp sized monitors, get them to order you some 19" ones". So the right person approved the purchase and I ordered them. Immediately had to lower the resolution to 800 x 600. I was saddened greatly by this, especially considering that my monitors in my office are only 17".

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 03:52 PM Local time: Apr 11, 2006, 01:52 PM #40 of 51
The only upside to using lower resolutions on LCDs is now they scale better (due to more pixels and blending).
But I have problem: I use a widescreen LCD and when I try to use 4:3 resolutions (in fullscreen programs that don't support widescreen), it stretches them to 16:10, I wish I could find a way (other than PowerStrip) to easily and quickly force 4:3 for gaming and such.

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 05:59 PM #41 of 51
You can set some of them to 4:3 on the monitor. For example, I can set mine to 4:3, 16:9, or 1:1.

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 06:03 PM #42 of 51
So yeah, I'm one of those using a 17" monitor with a resolution of 1280x1024. Is that bad for the monitor? Because it looks fine to me.

Then again, my dad is one of those people who has the 19" monitor but has a resolution of 1024x768....yeah should be switched, but he likes the large size of the monitor for watching movies, etc.

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 06:12 PM #43 of 51
Originally Posted by Omnislash124
So yeah, I'm one of those using a 17" monitor with a resolution of 1280x1024. Is that bad for the monitor? Because it looks fine to me.
If the monitor supports it, then there's nothing wrong with setting it to 1280x1024.

I still don't see how people find 60Hz so bad. But I'm a person who has been using computers since monochrome displays.

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 06:17 PM Local time: Apr 11, 2006, 04:17 PM #44 of 51
Originally Posted by Merv Burger
If the monitor supports it, then there's nothing wrong with setting it to 1280x1024.

I still don't see how people find 60Hz so bad. But I'm a person who has been using computers since monochrome displays.
It depends on the person, I think. I used to be fine with 60Hz on CRTs... for a long time actually. As I got older though, it started to irritate my eyes, to the point where I went down from 1600 x 1200 on my 17" CRT at 60Hz (which I now find too small, honestly) to 1280 x 960 (none of this 5:4 nonsense) at 85Hz which I find much more comfortable.

But like I said, with LCDs 60Hz obviously isn't a problem. And considering that my PC is on just about never (now that my damn Radeon 9700 seems to be fried), I'm looking at LCDs most of the live-long day. As soon as I have money, I'm re-buying myself a 20" widescreen LCD (had to sell my Dell for cash... being a college student sucks).

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 06:35 PM #45 of 51
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I still don't see how people find 60Hz so bad. But I'm a person who has been using computers since monochrome displays.
Agreed. Take my Trinitron G200. 1280x1024x60 is perfect. 1280x1024x75 and 1280x1024x85 I can detect flicker and it hurts my eyes.

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 07:47 PM #46 of 51
i actually like 1152x864 a lot. i used to have my 17" crt at 800x600 for a LONG time. people would come into my room and switch it to 1024 because they thought my computer had defaulted to 800x600 on accident. then i switched to 1024, then to 1280, but 1280's refresh rate was 60hz, so 1152 had a refresh of 75, which is better on my eyes.

on another note, i really hate 800x600 now.

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Old Apr 11, 2006, 08:50 PM Local time: Apr 11, 2006, 06:50 PM #47 of 51
Originally Posted by Merv Burger
If the monitor supports it, then there's nothing wrong with setting it to 1280x1024.

I still don't see how people find 60Hz so bad. But I'm a person who has been using computers since monochrome displays.
Meh, I used to think the same a few days ago. Then I noticed that my eyes were starting to hurt a bit when I looked at the monitor for a long time, so I decided to up the refresh rate. But whoops, my monitor (which is probably going to die in a few months ) doesn't support anything above 60Hz at 1280x1024. I tried 1280x800 for a few days, but I couldn't stand the vertical stretching so I put it down to 1158x864 and haven't gone back since. <3

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Old Apr 12, 2006, 02:24 PM Local time: Apr 12, 2006, 12:24 PM #48 of 51
Originally Posted by Murdercrow
Meh, I used to think the same a few days ago. Then I noticed that my eyes were starting to hurt a bit when I looked at the monitor for a long time, so I decided to up the refresh rate. But whoops, my monitor (which is probably going to die in a few months ) doesn't support anything above 60Hz at 1280x1024. I tried 1280x800 for a few days, but I couldn't stand the vertical stretching so I put it down to 1158x864 and haven't gone back since. <3
You said your monitor's going to die? What symptoms is it exhibiting?
Generally setting the screen to an unsupported resolution will not damage it, unless you switch to it frequently.

I've noticed I like using widescreen much more than 4:3, even when I had a 4:3 CRT monitor, I'd run it at 1280x768 (actually that's because it was the highest resolution it could pull at 85Hz). But on a real widescreen LCD, 1440x900 looks incredibly detailed and smooth.

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Old Apr 12, 2006, 03:02 PM Local time: Apr 12, 2006, 01:02 PM #49 of 51
Originally Posted by Kaiten
You said your monitor's going to die? What symptoms is it exhibiting?
Red lines whenever there's something against a white background after it wakes up. It fades after a few minutes, but it's always there.

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Old Apr 12, 2006, 09:25 PM Local time: Apr 12, 2006, 07:25 PM #50 of 51
Originally Posted by Murdercrow
Red lines whenever there's something against a white background after it wakes up. It fades after a few minutes, but it's always there.
Possible, but my monitor (before it died) made a 'pop' every so often when staring up, during use and shutting down. If you hear a popping noise, chances are it's close to dying. Otherwise it could just be your picture is screwed up (much like dead pixels on a LCD), hopefully it's just a benign annoyance.

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