Chrome, Google's browser

Jesus Christ you're one of them

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I tell Google everything. Looking through my Google web history is quite enlightening, as they capture all the webpages I look at - and not just sites reached through a search. Amazing that they know what sites I visit via bookmarks!

Also, props to Chrome for crashing far quicker than either Internet Explorer 7 or Firefox 3, when I direct it to cool2.php

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Originally Posted by Ultima

Isn't that only if you allow it to? Just send it lots of porn.

I'm not sure. If I have fully understood the article there is no config options to switch this on/off. I dunno about that privacy mode though, maybe it behaves different there.

@Zergrinch: Why don't you just use your regular browser-integrated history for that? That one is totally local and not visible for anyone else without access to your system.

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Originally Posted by LiquidAcid

@Bigblah: Who tells you that I'm using Google as a search engine?

To comment this a bit more:

1) I'm using a stripped down Seamonkey build, no integrated search feature activated
2) Adblock+ blocks most ads, modified hosts file does the rest
3) Cookie usage is restricted
3) I can fire up a I2P router for additional security/anonymity

I'm well aware that Google is collecting data. But it's IP-based data, maybe cookie supported (see above), so it's rather useless for them if the ISP uses dynamic IPs. Furthermore I can SSH-tunnel through my University server, effectively using this one as a proxy, making it nearly impossible to figure out who of the thousand of students is currently browsing the web.
And yes, I know some guys from the computer labs which run the network, this data is not recorded (currently at least...)

You're taking this way too seriously, and furthermore, I really don't like you so I'm going to kindly tell you to shut the fuck up and leave forever.

Google also said they will retroactively change their Chrome EULA, giving you even more reason to stfu and leave.

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Originally Posted by LiquidAcid

I'm not sure. If I have fully understood the article there is no config options to switch this on/off. I dunno about that privacy mode though, maybe it behaves different there.

@Zergrinch: Why don't you just use your regular browser-integrated history for that? That one is totally local and not visible for anyone else without access to your system.

The regular browser-integrated history has a max cap of, I think, 14 days wasn't it (in IE7). Not sure about Firefox.

But anyhow, this browsing activity is information I cannot access across different computers, or for that matter, different browsers on the same computer. Hence Google.

Besides, I don't consider what I browse as ultra top-secret information that must absolutely be safeguarded. If Google's employees want to know what I'm up to - out of several millions of other Google users, more power to them

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by LiquidAcid

@Bigblah: Who tells you that I'm using Google as a search engine?

To comment this a bit more:

1) I'm using a stripped down Seamonkey build, no integrated search feature activated
2) Adblock+ blocks most ads, modified hosts file does the rest
3) Cookie usage is restricted
3) I can fire up a I2P router for additional security/anonymity

I'm well aware that Google is collecting data. But it's IP-based data, maybe cookie supported (see above), so it's rather useless for them if the ISP uses dynamic IPs. Furthermore I can SSH-tunnel through my University server, effectively using this one as a proxy, making it nearly impossible to figure out who of the thousand of students is currently browsing the web.
And yes, I know some guys from the computer labs which run the network, this data is not recorded (currently at least...)

The only possible reason I can think of to be this paranoid and secretive about your web browsing would be if you were downloading kiddie porn or organising terrorist cells.

So what are you, a bomber or a nonce?

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That's the same broken argument you get from proponents of government sanctioned wiretapping. "If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear." LiquidAcid's approach might be somewhat overkill (the time invested in it alone, I suppose), but nothing wrong with protecting one's privacy out of the principle that it just isn't anyone else's goddamn business.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I probably haven't looked into it enough but I really don't like that the new tab shows your most viewed sites. I'd rather configure that to perhaps my favorite bookmarks or useful bookmarks. Let's just say I don't want to be at work and press ctrl-t and reveal to a coworker my browsing habits. That's pretty lame.

Also, the delete history doesn't work. That needs to be fixed.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by AcerBandit

I probably haven't looked into it enough but I really don't like that the new tab shows your most viewed sites. I'd rather configure that to perhaps my favorite bookmarks or useful bookmarks. Let's just say I don't want to be at work and press ctrl-t and reveal to a coworker my browsing habits. That's pretty lame.

Also, the delete history doesn't work. That needs to be fixed.

I actually like that frontpage, but you can change it to a more traditional homepage under the options. I would like it to be more customizable as well, such as by having the option to have pages never appear (right now, Google Chrome Help Centre is number 4, as an example), and to have more buttons (I'd like 16).

Also, since this is basically ripped off from Speed Dial on Opera, how come the numpad keyboard shortcuts don't work?

Anyway, I already like this browser a lot better than Firefox, which I never really liked. There are small niggles (such as ctrl+i for italics not working anymore on GFF ) but the 90% decrease in memory usage alone is enough for me to switch. I accidentally clicked on "Open all bookmarks" and it took about half a second to do just that. I have hundreds if not thousands of bookmarks. That was awesome.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

It's funny how typing ":%" in the address bar is fatal to Chrome...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

lol yeah just did that too

Were you on /g/? =')

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

I've been using Chrome at work, and while I'm impressed with how it performs for general browsing, it doesn't seem to like the work-related web apps the EPA uses. For travel arrangements, we use GovTrip, which opens a new window just about every time you perform an action (yes, it's terrible). I can't log in, because when I click to accept the terms, it just opens a new window with the same box to accept the terms and won't proceed beyond that. We use a different program to track correspondence, and I've had several problems with that. Most importantly, the program uses some kind of java applet to open any Word, pdf, etc. that's filed, and Chrome just sits there on the opening screen, without actually launching the applet.

It's a shame, because I really like what I see with Chrome. My only other big gripe is that with IE/Firefox, I constantly used the dropdown menu in the URL box to go to recently visited sites, and I don't see an easy way to do that in Chrome.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII

That's the same broken argument you get from proponents of government sanctioned wiretapping. "If you haven't done anything wrong, you have nothing to fear."

Full ack. I'm a bit allergic to surveillance (and I don't think that is limited to my person). We already had this in the past (see: Stasi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) and currently our government is on it's best way to what some call Stasi 2.0.
Not wanting this and protecting himself from it has nothing to do with paranoia, it's a (hard) lesson learned from the past. Some of you should really have a talk with people from East Germany who suffered greatly from the whole Stasi surveillance thing. That is nothing to laugh about...

Originally Posted by Cyrus XIII

LiquidAcid's approach might be somewhat overkill (the time invested in it alone, I suppose), but nothing wrong with protecting one's privacy out of the principle that it just isn't anyone else's goddamn business.

Oh, it's not really that much trouble to set it up.
Points 1) to 3) are a one time thing, I usually do this when installing a system. Point 4) (sry, it's not correctly labeled) is rarely used by me. But it's just a matter of starting an application and changing the proxy server in my browser, so it's really no rocket science.

Using the university proxy isn't also very hard. I usually have a SSH connection to the main university server open (to have access to my files there and to some superior CPU power *g*). If that connection is up it's also only changing the browser proxy. Really simple, so nothing that takes minutes of setup.

And everybody complaining about bugs in the beta:
chromium - Google Code

There is bugtracker hosted on the site, so if you encounter a bug look it up in the list and if you don't find it then post it.

@Memory usage: Initial releases usually have a very low memory consumption, compared to other applications that do the same thing. That was the same for initial releases of the FF browser.
Before jumping to any kind of conclusions most of you should wait for some final release and then track then memory usage with every following release. It's going to increase as well (same as FF), up to the point where everybody complains and a lot of code is rewritten to fix this issue (example: FF3).
I really don't think it's going to stay this way.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

A few issues I've come across:

1) There seems to be no real home page other than the "recently visited sites". If I'm browsing I can't simply click a home button which was a feature I really enjoyed in other browsers, especially at work.

2) No bookmark manager.

3) No click scroll wheel. ;___;

I will be adding more as I go along but that's whats been irking me so far.

How ya doing, buddy?

You can set a home page and make the home button show up under the Basics tab in the options menu.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by nuttyturnip

Most importantly, the program uses some kind of java applet to open any Word, pdf, etc. that's filed, and Chrome just sits there on the opening screen, without actually launching the applet.

You'll have to install the Java plug-in for Chrome. How you would do so though I have no idea. :/

While writing this post in Chrome, I've just discovered that the highlight color is white on dark blue. This makes it IMPOSSIBLE to see what you've highlighted on GFF. GJ, Google.

Also how are people getting Chrome to use only 15MB of RAM? According to my Chrome task manager, each TAB uses 15MB on average, and the browser itself sits at 70MB. I've got 7 tabs open and I'm using 160MB. I'm not really complaining since that's still comparable to FF3, and according to Google the difference becomes more dramatic as you open more tabs, but I'm just curious how other people are getting these results.

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Originally Posted by Dhsu

how are people getting Chrome to use only 15MB of RAM? According to my Chrome task manager, each TAB uses 15MB on average, and the browser itself sits at 70MB. I've got 7 tabs open and I'm using 160MB. I'm not really complaining since that's still comparable to FF3, and according to Google the difference becomes more dramatic as you open more tabs, but I'm just curious how other people are getting these results.

I've heard that too, but I really don't know what to tell you--I didn't tweak a damn thing about Chrome. Then again I get a very bad performance out of Firefox 3 and people keep telling me it's much less of a memory hog than FF2.

The highlight thing is a pretty annoying oversight for sure. It's like Google didn't test Chrome on GFF, don't they know it's the most important site in the world

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Xardion

You can set a home page and make the home button show up under the Basics tab in the options menu.

Yeah, you're right. I hadn't seen that quite yet as I've only begun using it at work today and haven't had much time to rummage through the options yet.

I still don't like how the tabs open up as recently visited sites.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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No, that's not it either...



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It's a work thing.

Tin foil hats don't work too well on bosses, after all.

I was speaking idiomatically.

You know, this little browser isn't too bad. However, I opened the task manager to see how much RAM it was using and I found that it always uses 2 processes even though I only have one window open. The one thing I did like about it though is that it only use about 15 MB for each of those instances. I also noticed that every tab I opened was creating a separate process and when said tab was closed, the process would end thus clearing that bit of RAM.

I don't know how they came up with that but, goddamnit, that's fucking genius. Where Firefox was clocking in a massive 275+ MB for me with my Gmail tab, my work email tab, GFF, stock.xchng and Digg open Chrome only clocked (an estimated) 120 MB.

That's a huge fucking difference for me, guys.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

You can grab the Chrome Nightly builds here if you want. I'm not exactly sure of the changelogs, but I'm hoping they're going to fix the carpetbomb thing. They've fixed the :% crashbug, at least.

Also, I like how you can drag Chrome's tabs around. You can reorder them, or even drag them out of the window and it'll automatically produce a new frame/window. I wish they'd add a few options to the browser, though. I miss middle-clicking links and automatically switching to a new tab.

I'm also not too fond of the blue 'frame' they give you in XP. I like how the frame sort of 'adapts' to either XP or Vista, but I think it should still try to follow your current visual style. The blue just doesn't fit, really.

[edit] Okay, checking out the latest build [1778], there's a 'Minor Tweaks' tab in the options. You can set it to 'Always ask where to download files'. I'm not sure if that'll be a fix for the carpetbomb, but it's a start.

FELIPE NO

What's this carpetbomb thing that you mention?

Also, Firefox 3 already gives the ability to drag tabs around, and to other Firefox windows. I suppose the ability to drag out to produce a new window entirely is an added innovation.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

If I remember correctly, Firefox 2 allowed you to switch tabs around too. I could be wrong though. I also want to know about this "carpetbomb" crash bug or whatever that is.

EDIT:
Is there any word on a Mac version of this?

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The 'carpetbomb' thing was a hole that was in the earlier builds of Safari, too. It's a WebKit thing, apparently. It basically allows a simple script to download and run [malicious or not] applications without you even knowing.

Also, I didn't actually know Firefox let you drag tabs around. I guess I never really tried it until I read that Chrome could do it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.