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Casino Royale - New Bond, New Girl, New Villain
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Old Sep 8, 2006, 10:09 AM Local time: Sep 9, 2006, 02:09 AM #51 of 128
Maaaan, the music to that trailer is awesome as well.....

Can't wait for the score to be released.

And since this hasn't been posted yet: Chris Cornell, of Soundgarden/Audioslave/Temple of the Dog fame wrote and performed the song, which is titled 'You Know My Name'.

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Old Sep 10, 2006, 02:42 AM Local time: Sep 10, 2006, 06:42 PM #52 of 128
Originally Posted by Tama8-chan
Maaaan, the music to that trailer is awesome as well.....

Can't wait for the score to be released.
Don't be fooled by the trailer. It's highly unlikely Arnold's score will sound anything like that (apart from the use fo the theme, obviously).

Sounded very generic to me and the choral version of the Bond theme at the end was truly over-the-top and unnecessary.

Still, that's not to say we can't look forward to the score. But I'm a bit tired of Arnold's Bond efforts. He was fresh and great in TND, and also for a lot of TWINE, but Die Another Day left much to be desired.

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Old Sep 10, 2006, 04:16 AM Local time: Sep 10, 2006, 08:16 PM #53 of 128
I was really disappointed with the Goldeneye score by Eric Serra (which was an attempt at modernising Bond, but just didn't work), and the score for Die Another Day, which was all over the place.

Arnold's score for TND was definitely his best.

Company Car from the TND soundtrack is the best take on the Bond theme ever.
Kudos to Arnold for that.

I also like how he used the tune for KD Lang's 'Surrender' in many of the tracks in TND, which he also did in TWINE (which was also a good score) where many of the tracks reflected the tune for 'Only Myself to Blame' by Scott Walker.
He may definitely do that with Casino Royale, considering he's said that the James Bond theme won't be present in the score at all until near the end or AT the end of the movie.

There were rumours that he was going to take cues from the On Her Majesty's Secret Service theme song, but that was denied.

I'm still looking forward to the score though, considering there's not many of the 'standard' action scenes in this movie that he can use his techno remix stuff on, and that it's not as camp or light-hearted as Brosnan's outings.

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Old Sep 10, 2006, 05:14 AM Local time: Sep 10, 2006, 10:14 AM #54 of 128
I'm guessing a lot of people will probably be aware of this, but if not: there's a Dave Arnold project called "Shaken and Stirred" where he re-worked a number of the old theme songs in collaboration with the likes of Pulp, Aimee Mann and Chrissie Hynde. It's a really good album, or so I think, and worth checking out if you like your Bond music.

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Old Sep 10, 2006, 05:36 AM Local time: Sep 10, 2006, 09:36 PM #55 of 128
Whoa!

Must find this album!!!

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Old Sep 10, 2006, 07:14 AM Local time: Sep 10, 2006, 12:14 PM #56 of 128
If you have a huge amount of trouble tracking it down, let me know as I do have it.

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Old Sep 13, 2006, 09:06 AM #57 of 128
Originally Posted by Majin yami
I really want this to be more like the Bourne movies. Now those were some damn good films!

The bourne movies sucked hardcore. If ever a James Bond movie ended up like bourne, I'd drop my fanship of the series right there.


On topic, I think Craig will be pretty damn good as bond.

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Old Oct 26, 2006, 12:55 PM #58 of 128
Bumping this thread because it becomes more relevant in the coming weeks.

I'm very interested to see where this movie goes - as it's both the 21st Bond movie but also a prequel (as it involves Commander Bond's assignment to earn a 00 agent status)

From what I've seen Craig looks great in the part - very much like the Timothy Dalton type Bond (though his 007 movies were fairly subpar), where he's angrier and more aggressive. Much more like the agent Ian Flemming wrote about instead of the stupid pun-driven Bonds in View To A Kill or Die Another Day.

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Old Oct 26, 2006, 03:01 PM Local time: Oct 26, 2006, 10:01 PM #59 of 128
The Movie Bond has evolved into something diffrent the Flemming Bond was, that's true, but it's not something I'd dislike...
Though a "True Bond (c)" Movie would be a cool thing...
Maybe even set in the 70s or rather 80s to minimize hilarity...

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Old Oct 26, 2006, 03:17 PM Local time: Oct 26, 2006, 03:17 PM #60 of 128
Man, the trailer looks awesome, and I think it will really shine. It seems like the series has been refreshed for the movie coming out at the end of the year. You know, its hard to believe after all these years they still make Bond movies.

Isn't this the 21st James Bond Movie?

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Old Oct 27, 2006, 12:15 AM Local time: Oct 26, 2006, 10:15 PM #61 of 128
Now, as much as I hear people saying that there hasn't been a true Bond film since Connery was around, one can't deny that every Bond film made has always been quite a spectacle to behold and this is no different. I'm actually looking forward to this film myself.

Daniel Craig as the new James Bond raised a few eyebrows at first, but at the time I'd only seen him in Tomb Raider (which sucked donkey ass like the cure for cancer lied within.) but after seeing him in Layer Cake and Munich I can totally see him in the role of bond. (Although, he WAS pretty good in Road to Perdition) Eva Green as the new Bond girl is... making me melt... I LOVED her in Kingdom of Heaven (Her character was my favorite in the film) and even though she'll be in more of a materialistic role in this film, I have no doubts about her performance being jawdropping.

Chalk this one up as a must-see for me.

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Old Oct 27, 2006, 06:05 PM #62 of 128
well this bond movie sounds like it's an interesting spy thing, and it sounds good and all, but i think the only bad thing about this is the actor. he does not have the bond look or style AT ALL. it sort of destroys the whole outlook on bond. so i'm still debating whether to see it or not when it comes out. hmph.

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Old Oct 28, 2006, 01:46 PM #63 of 128
Originally Posted by highlush
he does not have the bond look or style AT ALL.
As opposed to the heavy comedic efforts of View To A Kill or Die Another Day? If anything, Daniel Craig is *more* like Bond than some of the other actors - certainly Roger Moore.

Really depends on where you're coming from, though. Sean Connery is the quintisential movie Bond but Timothy Dalton is still the most like the character in the novels. Brosnan, while a touch wooden at times, seems to understand that Bond is "bigger than life" and kinda runs with it. George Lazenby isn't bad either - On Her Majesty's Secret Service is probably the best movie in the series - but with only one outing, you don't have much to go on.

Craig is very, very similar to Dalton's acting. I'm very interested to see what he gives - the trailers make Bond look more weary and earthy than previous installments which should give the series a nice level of believability its been lacking.

In other news, I have a copy of David Arnold's score already. He said early on that it was most like On Her Majesty's Secret Service as it lacks use of the Bond theme. He's only half correct - the final track ("The Name's Bond...James Bond") is a suite of the famous theme - and theres a couple hints at it through out the score where Arnold plays the ostinato without the melody (think of John Ottman's Superman Returns, where you usually hear just the "climbing" bars without the theme following).

The score is more introverted and dramatic than any Bond score in years, similar to The Living Daylights but with a better handling of the synth. Yes, the score has synth but used in a way similar to Tomorrow Never Dies (ambiance instead of instrument).

"Miami International" is probably the best cue on the disc - running just short of thirteen straight minutes and culminating in some bitch'n fight music.

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Old Nov 2, 2006, 05:12 AM Local time: Nov 2, 2006, 02:12 AM #64 of 128
Craig cannot drive man tran. Aston Martin had to make up a DBS with an automatic for him. Absolutely disgraceful F-- will not watch again

I jest of course. I'm a fan of the Bond series and am currently rewatching some old ones, Moore/Connery and the like. I'm somewhat skeptical about Craig as he doesn't capture the Bond "look" for me, but I cannot jump to any conclusions.

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Old Nov 2, 2006, 05:50 AM #65 of 128
I have an odd feeling that this movie will either really impress me, or completely suck. I say this because the trailer looks so promising, and if it ends up sucking it'll be to the extreme due to the hype I've given this in my mind.

So, here's hoping for a good movie.

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Old Nov 2, 2006, 11:16 AM Local time: Nov 2, 2006, 05:16 PM #66 of 128
I just heard the new Bond theme and I must say it is somewhat mediocre; I just don't like it that much. Cornell is a solid artist and he can produce something better than that. I can except the departure from a more standardised swarve and mystical Bondesqe theme seeing as this is a new chapter in the franchise but this just doesn't fit in the jigsaw. (Who knows maybe it will grow on me just needs a few more listens).

But in the end its the film and not the opening song that is of the utmost importance and fingers crossed it does look good with proper live action stunts instead of a barrage of CG. Tomorrow is the first time the press will actually get to see the film, but not only that this will be the first time the big wigs at Sony who green lighted the project will get to see it too and I can only hope Mr Craig lives up to their expectations this Friday and ours on the 17th.

EDIT: One thing I must say the music video itself increases my hunger to see this film it looks so intense; seeing Bond covered in his own blood is a first. So far no news on a single release nor has this been slated as of yet to be included in the soundtrack I hear.

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Old Nov 2, 2006, 12:05 PM #67 of 128
Originally Posted by El Ray Fernando
I just heard the new Bond theme and I must say it is somewhat mediocre; I just don't like it that much. Cornell is a solid artist and he can produce something better than that.
Agreed. I like Cornell too and I love Bond music - but the song its pretty bland. It also lacks a more orchestral backing. The lyrics for the song are perfect but what good is that if the music sucks?

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 06:47 AM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 10:47 PM #68 of 128
Originally Posted by LeHah
In other news, I have a copy of David Arnold's score already.
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Old Nov 3, 2006, 08:50 AM #69 of 128
Originally Posted by Tama8-chan
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Here, on my MP3 player. I get stuff in advance, either through album promotions or because I know people on the INTARWEB who are the best at what they do.

If you want, theres a review of the album here - http://www.musiconfilm.net/get_review.php?id=140

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 04:05 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 03:05 PM #70 of 128
For some reason, I think Craig looks like a Russian MMA fighter. He hardly looks suave. I'm afraid that these new Bond flicks take themselves way too seriously. I'm just hoping that the plot is decent and not just a 2 hour showcase of stunt sequences and explosions.

Oh, and here's Eva Green's bush to add to Devo's earlier posts.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 05:05 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 02:05 PM #71 of 128
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Oh, and here's Eva Green's bush to add to Devo's earlier posts.
Wow, I just noticed how huge of a set she's got. Deng.

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Old Nov 4, 2006, 07:04 AM Local time: Nov 4, 2006, 01:04 PM #72 of 128
Last night was the exclusive first screening for the press and the executives at Sony, and I managed to pick up a selection of newspapers and magazines this morning and the reviews are in.

Basically after reading the reviews/articles the bottom line is that the critics thought Daniel Craig was absolutely 'sensational' as Bond and that the film was 144 minutes of excellence, some critics even touting him as being better than Connery and Moore. It seemed many didn't care that they had departed from the original formula, many loved the fact that they saw a Bond truer to Flemming's original writings, hard, gritty, yet deeply sensitive.

I seriously can't wait to see this film now.

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Old Nov 4, 2006, 08:40 AM Local time: Nov 4, 2006, 02:40 PM #73 of 128
Originally Posted by El Ray Fernando
Last night was the exclusive first screening for the press and the executives at Sony, and I managed to pick up a selection of newspapers and magazines this morning and the reviews are in.

Basically after reading the reviews/articles the bottom line is that the critics thought Daniel Craig was absolutely 'sensational' as Bond and that film was 144 minutes of excellence, some critics even touting him as being better than Connery and Moore. It seemed many didn't care that they had departed from the original formula, many loved the fact that they saw a Bond truer to Flemmings original writings, hard, gritty, yet deeply sensitive.

I seriously can't wait to see this film now.
Yes, also here is some more confirmation of what you say:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6116286.stm


I too am getting really hyped about this film, and I have always thought that Daniel Craig will do a good job as bond. One of the critics on the BBC link says that it is the ''best film since Goldeneye'': this is also music to my ears: I absolutely loved Goldeneye - easily pierce brosnans best film.

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Old Nov 4, 2006, 10:22 PM #74 of 128
Trailers look great, story sounds great, and everything seems promising to me. I think I can make time for Casino Royale when it hits theatres as I've seen the last two in theatres as well. I agree that David Arnold's score for Die Another Day was rather disappointing, so I'm hoping he makes a comeback for this film. If the music is good enough, I may buy the score soundtrack (which doesn't include the title song, surprisingly).

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Old Nov 16, 2006, 07:29 PM Local time: Nov 17, 2006, 12:29 AM #75 of 128
Just got back from seeing the film and I must say it was really rather good. Daniel Craig did a top job as Bond and the film worked, it is exactly what the franchise needed in my opinion.

With regards to the music, as it has got some comments here, I thought it was good. I even thought the title theme worked within the context of the film, especially as an instrumental motif.

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