Casino Royale - New Bond, New Girl, New Villain

Originally Posted by Majin yami

I used to be really skeptical about having Craig as Bond, but the promo pics, set pics and that trailer have made me believe that he could be the best Bond yet (yes, even better than Connery).

I don't think he will be better but he will come close, alot will depend on the film of course.

I think he will silence alot of the critics and the haters and hopefully those morons who plan to boycott the film because he has blonde hair when in the book its supposed to be black (oh noes!!).

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Brosnan was the people's choice for Bond in the early 80s, but because of his commitment to Remington Steele, they had to bring in Timothy Dalton, who, although brought out what people say to be the 'real Bond - hard edge, cold as ice, but still with a bit of humour here and there - was TOO serious, especially after the camp and over the top humour that Roger Moore brought in.

Brosnan's Bond was serious, but there was a more relaxed feel to it. He looked a lot more suave, more cool, more gentlemanly than Dalton's revenge-exacting, Miami Vice-inspired bastard.
There was only one moment of that for Brosnan, and that was in The World Is Not Enough when he kills Elektra King.

If you notice, Connery also has moments of that too. One example I remember off the top of my head is in Dr No, when he tells Quarrel to get that photographer chick. He was very much the bastard.

I think Craig IS going to be rather serious in the movie, maybe a little more than we're used to from Brosnan's movies.
I reckon it'll turn out great though.

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I think Craig may have the acting credentials to pull off Bond, I have no doubt about it. But the man looks like a weasel: ugly ugly ugly. And it's not the blond hair. He looks like he's spent way too much time out in the sun, like he's aging prematurely or something. He doesn't carry the patient but cunning, suave, self-confidence that his predecessors had.

Tama, I didn't know Brosnan was originally tapped so early... interesting.

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Originally Posted by LizardSC

Tama, I didn't know Brosnan was originally tapped so early... interesting.

Dalton was asked to play Bond when he was in his twentys but he refused the role saying he was too young, of course he later agreed and did 2 films.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Just saw the teaser.

I like how he's even uglier on film.

The new score sounds good though.

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I have to agree with Megalith. The guy simply isn't attractive. Or maybe I should say he's not "pretty". He looks like he could be in an action movie, just not a Bond movie. That's why when I saw the trailer I was like, "is this even real?" because he's a pretty average looking guy. Sean Connery was hotness, though.

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Daniel Craig should have been the villian, but I've never heard of this Mads Mikkelsen guy. I wonder who the second Bond girl will be. They better have one because Eva Green is not hot enough to balance out Daniel Craig's ugliness.

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lol you guys are so superficial...

I understand that you want the character of Bond to be perfect, IE played by a very attractive actor. But c'mon! You guys are being silly.

Edit: I was confused why they picked Craig in the first place since he's not really well known. I just watched Layer Cake however, and I can't wait to see what he does in the role. Hopefully this movie will bring back some self-respect to the series. Die Another Day was just so remarkably horrible. (I hope others agree with me)

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Originally Posted by Troy-Bagnell

lol you guys are so superficial...

It's a Bond film. I expect hot men, hot ladies, fiendish villains, effortless bullet dodging, and assorted silliness.

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Just saw the trailer, I must admit that I also had doubts about Daniel Craig but he seems alright so far. Should be a decent movie. I didn't like Layer Cake very much, but this movie looks like it has some potential.

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Originally Posted by Troy-Bagnell

lol you guys are so superficial...

I understand that you want the character of Bond to be perfect, IE played by a very attractive actor. But c'mon! You guys are being silly.

Edit: I was confused why they picked Craig in the first place since he's not really well known. I just watched Layer Cake however, and I can't wait to see what he does in the role. Hopefully this movie will bring back some self-respect to the series. Die Another Day was just so remarkably horrible. (I hope others agree with me)

I agree that Die Another Day was absolutely atrocious. But I am enjoying this discussion of Daniel Craig's ugliness, because he IS ugly. Maybe I've been spoiled by the handsome, sophisticated looks of Brosnan and Moore (although Moore started looking kinda bad by the end of his run); but Eleo is right, this is Bond, not some ordinary spy. We expect over-the-top glamour.

Btw, I know there is no Q or R in this film, but is Judi Dench confirmed as reprising M?

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She's in the trailer.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Anybody have an English trailer yet? And in quicktime, Windows Media is not the bees knees.

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Sony said that that teaser was not the real teaser trailer.
Thats most likely why we havent seen an English trailer.

The real one will be released in the next week or so, apparently.

One of the things about James Bond is EVERY action has emulated Bond so much, that even though he has his own style, he has become indistinguishable from recent action heroes and movies.
Die Another Day, while it had the campiness, was just too much.
And while it did well at the box office, was just not what Bond was all about. All you needed to do was to take away 'Bond, James Bond', and 'Shaken, Not Stirred', and he would have become like every other mindless action hero.

With the way they're doing with this movie so far is that, yes, while it does have some mindless action, it's more because Bond is not yet a full 00-agent. It's when he becomes one, and is sent on the actual Casino Royale mission that he becomes the person we know from the older movies.

Thats what i HOPE will happen.

Craig MAY NOT have the chops to be Bond.
But judging by that awesome teaser poster, it seems he's doing well.
We'll all just have to see the movie in November to find out for real.
Or, at least, when the theatrical trailer is released.

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Well, it appears it IS the official teaser.

Couple links there. Straight from Sony's site, a mirror (that doesn't require you to download some gay plugin), and a link to the French one again.


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It looks good... it just doesn't seem, or feel, like a Bond film to me beyond the classic music that plays in the trailer. Just, hopefully, it's better than Die Another Day, which shouldn't be hard.

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I really want this to be more like the Bourne movies. Now those were some damn good films!

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Originally Posted by LizardSC

Maybe I've been spoiled by the handsome, sophisticated looks of Brosnan

I'm sorry what? In my opinion he looks like a short hairy Irishman, no wait...he is.

I think the problem is that Connery set the bar too high for all the others, he is the benchmark and none of the others have topped him yet.

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Admittedly, Casino Royale will be my first James Bond movie, so I can't join into all this discussion about who's the best Bond and such.

Anyways, despite my not being a Bond fan, I've always associated Pierce Brosnan with the image of James Bond because he was Bond as I was growing up. The first promo photo of Daniel Craig as Bond surprised me, as I was used to Brosnan.

I find that Craig fluctuates between looking very Bond-ly and looking like he needs some plastic surgery. It's a little distracting; he looks dreadful in the teaser poster and downright creepy in the casino shot at the end of the teaser trailer whereas a couple of the production stills make him look much, much better.

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No one's talking about the Danish guy. I think he's Danish anyway. He's been in the Pusher movies, and he looks pretty damn sinister. I guess eye scars are the latest Hollywood trend (see A History of Violence, movie with guy missing an eye, etc.).

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Have they even announced who is doing the theme tune? If not who would be a suitable candidate?

I think it should be somebody of the more older genertion, as it is going back to the beginning of Bond (Well sort of).

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Well, the new Casino Royale Trailer is out!!

Check it out here!

Looks like a classier, more dangerous Bond more than ever now.

For an indication, check out the trailers for the previous Bond movies here:

Miss Moneypenny's Rolodex
Click on the relevant movie title, and scroll down to the bottom to see the trailers.

You notice that there's a HUGE difference....

Very much looking forward to it!

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Just watched the new trailer and fuck yes this looks cool. I'm so going to see this without question.

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Holy shit. Gonna have to see this on opening day, it looks amazing.

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