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View Poll Results: Protecting the agricultural sector | |||
is still vital to a country | 2 | 40.00% | |
should only be used to help farmers with unexpected changes | 1 | 20.00% | |
should not exist | 2 | 40.00% | |
Voters: 5. You may not vote on this poll |
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For the first time since WWII, a round of negociation for lower tarriffs might fail... In Quebec, when I compared to some prices in Saskatchewan, I feel like to paying too much (4l of milk is a dollar more expensive, the cheapeast bread also; eggs are 70c more expensive...). Cancelling EVERY SINGLE subsidies in and out of the country would significantly lower prices of goods AND would let developping countries depending on agriculture export more and probably improve their situation. But then, there is the question of how farmers would cope with climate changes and unexpected diseases... Is agriculture protectionism still necessary nowadays? Jam it back in, in the dark. |
As much as I support agricultural liberalization I just can't stand being in the same camp as some filthy Quebecois.
Choke on your beaver meat, frog. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Cycle de Doha : Michael Fortier tente d'apaiser les craintes | Économie et affaires | Radio-Canada.ca in short: Canada doesn't seem to want to move on agriculture subsidies. It's not like the conservatives could lose seats in Alberta... Speaking of which: are farmers still strong in the US? Apparently, Reagan lost a mid-term election because he didn't give enough subsidies This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Damn you, farmers! You took my Katie! Damn you to Hell!
But the issue of farm subsidies, as pertains to Reagan anyhow, is over twenty years old. Though many of Reagan's fiscal policies have had direct ramifications on our current economy, the global market is dramatically different. What does Reagan have to do with the current matter? More interestingly, what "mid-term election" did he lose? I can't recall him losing any public elections; the man was rather beloved at the time. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I was speaking idiomatically. |
Loaded poll question.
Who the hell is this Janus X kid? What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Agricultural subsidies are fucking shit. All the farmers over here bleat on about how they're abused by the supermarkets and how hard they work (Whilst raking in massive amounts for leaving their fields fallow) and how without subsidies they'd not be able to afford to keep the farm open. Well fucking sell it then you dicks. You're sat on a few million quid's worth of real estate and bitching about being poor meanwhile housing demand hugely outstrips supply because there's nowhere to build new ones. Does it never occur to these rural fucks that maybe the price you can sell your shit for is so low because the market is horribly over-supplied and you're all really lazy and inefficient? Market forces motherfuckers, learn about them.
I really fucking hate farmers. FELIPE NO |
Here in Canada, it's unelikely to happen: provinces like Alberta and Saskatchewan are deeply blue (conservative). I don't think the NDP could regain influence should the Conservatives go back on the right for economics What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
At least Tesco and the rest of them aren't able to get their mits into petrol retailing. Jam it back in, in the dark.
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As much as people like to see farmers as some salt of the earth Americana BS, they basically amount to a landed gentry with lobbying power way beyond what their voice should be in a pluralistic democracy. Even worse now that corporate farms are on the rise with their massive teams of lawyers and lobbyists. They also get farming subsidies. Farming subsidies are bullshit, especially while using the World Bank and IMF to tell third world countries that they can't institute similar programs while we force them to buy our subsidized surplus. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Some not totally horrible article about biofuels not being the second coming of Jesus. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
That the rentseeking is invariably honoured comes as much from governmental pragmatism as industrial lobbying: no nation wants to export its foodbowl to a foreign jurisdiction and bottom line simply because either the foodbowl's buyers won't play fair, or because poultry's ten cents cheaper wholesale at the moment from fucking Chile or somewhere. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
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Last edited by Cal; Jul 30, 2008 at 03:52 AM.
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I was speaking idiomatically. |
Did it help lowering food price? Can part of the deficit be blamed on this? AGRICULTURE: LA NOUVELLE PAC AMERICANA What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
As for your questions: no, and not really. FELIPE NO |
Ghost |
When prices are low farmers beg for help to "keep family farms going."
When prices are high farmers beg for help "to preserve our country's food production and increase food supply." This year congress passed a pretty disgusting but par for the course barrel of pork that largely helps major industrial farms increase their profits. Not that profits are bad, but why increase the handouts during record food prices and with all the ethanol hand-outs going strong too? Meanwhile the EU can't do shit to their locked-in farm subsidies and pay people to farm sheep on useless land because it looks nice and is local. Seriously. Of course, if they were really worried about food quality, they would ban what isn't safe and let farmers make the pitch for quality in the supermarket, rather than spend millions on subsidies and quotas. That said, being a small-time farmer is an extremely difficult, risky, and noble job. It's real tough for some. And it helps keep us from paving over our food supplies... What a mess. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
When Congress mandates that our gasoline has to have a certain percentage of ethanol mixture, while America's ethanol industry flounders the only choice is to throw more money at the problem. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
Too bad ethanol is a terrible "solution" and should never have been made into such a big deal in the first place.
There's nowhere I can't reach. John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
to brandylama: G is the scientific abbreviation of billion This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |