Gang raped by 7 men? That's 200 lashes

Regardless of the amount of vitriol, I can't imagine any of you actually give two shits about the women of Saudi Arabia.

After all they're all terrorists, right

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

God says we should love everyone, even those of terrorist descent.

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I don't feel so remorseful for the woman.

First of all, she was meeting with a dude and probably didn't tell her husband about it. She probably didn't want him to know. That's kinda messed up.
Second, that's against the law. Bitch, whine, and moan about their laws all you want, she still broke the law and she knew she was doing it.
Third, she was being blackmailed for something, as stated in the article. So she probably has a history of doing shit she knows she shouldn't be doing.
Fourth, if there had been a man with her (one that was actually looking out for her), there might have been a slim chance the whole kidnapping and rape thing might not have happened.

Legal or not, what she did would be the equivalent of me heading into the hood to buy some drugs, then getting my ass beat to near death by a gang of dirty niggers on my way back home.

You put yourself in places you shouldn't be, shit might just go wrong.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Devoxycontin

HSharia isn't specified at all. Read his post again, places like Saudi Arabia cherry-pick the Qu'ran for their set of laws.

Which is exactly the problem with that religion. Like with many others, any dishonest person can pick what he wants and make it sound how he intends to with minor twisting here and there. The main difference with Islam, are that those people can defend their stances with stuff like the Taqiyya, which basically allows you to lie as long as it is for the good of Islam, and quotes like this:

"When We substitute one revelation for another,- and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages),- they say, "Thou art but a forger": but most of them know not"

When people say Islam is a religion of conquest, it is indeed reducing. But it is true that the fact it developed in a martial environment left many open holes for abusing it. And when man can abuse, he rarely abstains. ~_~

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So is this whole ordeal proof that God doesn't exist?

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Yes. lmao

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

I dunno, misogyny aside and applicable in all cases, there is a distinguishable shock difference over whipcracks caused by more arbitrary persecution laws and further abuse to someone victimized. Don't really need me to say they're both horrific, cuz, yea. In fact, I'd worry a bit more of the condition of a person that doesn't get hit in the gut a bit more at one than the other and instead seemingly equates them.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Kolba

The woman knows the law and she can play by the rules. She doesn't. She knows she's breaking the law, she does it anyway. She's punished for it. Yeah, they're backward rules but 'sup Islam. Scenario 2. The woman is kidnapped and raped, she has no power or self-determination over what happens to her. She's punished for it.

And you can't understand that an article written to make it seem like B happened, when it was actually A that happened

Actually, both happened.

The woman broke a law (oshi) that has an irrational punishment attached to it (oshi). However she was kidnapped and raped, and there is nothing in the article that says she was going to the hood or wearing her burqua in a sexy way to provoke such an attack. Saudi Arabia is many things, but it isn't Baghdad - being found outside of your compound isn't asking to be kidnapped.

So you have a situation where a woman was breaking a law that is difficult to enforce, and during that she was victimized in a horrific manner. In order to see her rapists brought to justice she went public with her own transgressions - a brave act. The problem is not only that the punishment is harsh for something that is minor - and difficult to enforce - but also that she was given a punishment that much more severe for talking about how crappy her judgement is.

I mean, it's all there in the article. I can only assume you're unable to read. Ask your mom and dad to read articles for you next time - that saves you precious time and effort you can then put into savings, which means you never feel anchored to a unique thought and you can feel like a free man.

It's a position which has brought you untold freedom, and opened up chance opportunities, such as being able to drop all logic and reason and go galavanting off to different forums on the internet for weeks at a time pretending to be a libertarian, a bleeding-heart hippie, a tough-but-fair misogynist fuck, or a teenage know-it-all, several times a year. You also never want for time. Your friend has moved out of his mothers' politics and suddenly he became a very boring person, since it's impossible to get him to troll anything. 'Bit retarded argument here, mate'. Well I am, and I'm fucking loving it.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Is this my 'Lurker's stern talking down to'?

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I'm just saying. Being bothered by a misleading title is one (dumb) thing, but you're in a different ballpark altogether.

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Here lets all read the article from a source that doesn't seem to bash Islam.

BBC NEWS | World | Middle East | Saudi rape victim 'having affair'

Ohh it even says in the BBC article that the guy who she was seeing outside of marriage got raped too, guess he learned his lesson eigh?

I was speaking idiomatically.

Here's a recent article that doesn't even say anyone confessed to an affair. The closest it says is that she met this guy without a chaperone, and that the ministry claims she was 'in a state of undress' but then again they are the same guys who think talking to a government-sympathetic news agency is worth an additional 110 lashes.

Also, I found no evidence so far that the rapists are getting any lashes at all. I'm just saying.

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Originally Posted by a lurker

Also, I found no evidence so far that the rapists are getting any lashes at all. I'm just saying.

To be fair, that may be because under Saudi Arabian law, the penalty for rape is death by beheading.

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That is not their penalty. In the OP they are sentenced to jail, no beheading though.

Another article with possible explanation:

Quote:

The men were initially sentenced to one to five years in jail, but those terms were also toughened last week to between two and nine years.

A rape conviction carries the death penalty in Saudi Arabia, but the court did not impose it due to the "lack of witnesses" and the "absence of confessions," the justice ministry said on Tuesday.

bummer

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by Kolba

Before she was kidnapped, she met with a man in his car. That's the crime. The man was kidnapped too.

According to CNN, the man was actually raped as well.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

God why are you repeating this anti-Arab propaganda?

There's nowhere I can't reach.

My goodness. I thought the story spoke itsself. With all the emotion flying around where are the solutions.

Some countries could get together & invade like with Afghanistan. Then all the women will live happily ever after. Sort of.
Me I am for an invasion of Christian missionaries. Missions To Islam
A different faith brings different views on justice.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Why not judaism instead? They haven't done anything barbaric, have they?

Personally I say we spread hinduism instead. Cows anyone?

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I like to eat those, so I dunno.

How ya doing, buddy?

Originally Posted by SuperNova

Why not judaism instead? They haven't done anything barbaric, have they?

Personally I say we spread hinduism instead. Cows anyone?

Well Christianity has done many a righteous invasion, so they kinda know what to do, I'm sure they have a little big book telling them of the God's way of purifying the heathens that do not see the light of the true God.

Tbh just seeing the ammount of crap I can fit into 1 sentence. I'm sure I could do more, but it's almost midnight.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Well, it's not like the Jews didn't have their own little conquests.

They were just very, very long ago.

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Originally Posted by Generic Badass

Well, it's not like the Jews didn't have their own little conquests.

They were just very, very long ago.

1948 ain't that long ago

How ya doing, buddy?

Purely on the grounds of religion or spreading the religion, I meant. Since they were talking about "righteous invasions" and spreading the Word by sword.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Jews ever spread their religion by the sword, per se. They were conquerors at one point, and at one period of time became evangelical, but they didn't do it at the same time.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

See and here I was thinking that they just took over Hollywood.

Boy do I feel dumb.

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