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This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Member 18063 Level 13.72 Jan 2007 |
My point was that the poeple who crank out "facts" need to be checked on. The folks here have yet to tell me if they personally have seen or checked anything for themselves. Well there is one but I am waiting to see more of their view...
This ladys & gents is a person after my own heart.
Its a useful tool the cloaking device. Assumptions are what makes it work so well. Your post is by far the best. I get what you are saying thanks. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
I CREATED SOME HUMANS AT THE SAME TIME AS DINOSAURS, BUT UH IT DIDN'T LAST LONG...
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Lordsword your mother is still living, why is this? I was speaking idiomatically. |
You didn't come here looking for education. You came here looking for validation, and you're not going to find it. Not here. Clearly. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
FELIPE NO |
LordSword, your arguments are tired and boring. Science catches a mistake, and science fixes it. Your conclusion? Science must be checked up on! Well, yeah. That's how we caught the mistake in the first place. By checking up on it, you dolt.
And you're right, if someone doesn't do it your way, it doesn't mean they're wrong. But when they're basing their argument on circumstantial "evidence" and storybooks, then chances are, THEY'RE FUCKING WRONG. Especially when they're arguing with documented proof. I assume you don't need us to explain evolution, or the concept of carbon dating. I trust you're not enough of an idiot to need that done. Your ability to write the English language would dictate otherwise, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt anyway. You don't like anyone who tells you you're flat out wrong. Which is a pity, because you are. You're little more than a religious troll, and I for one can't wait for the day Styphon strings you up by your neck for being the idiot that you are. Creation science is the laughing stock of the scientific community. The fact that Americans even consider it (read: the religious right thrusts it on community schools) for elementary education makes most of us snicker. And I'm sure that feeds your pathetic little martyr complex, but there you have it. The evidence is on the table, mate. You're choosing not to acknowledge it because of your personal agenda. YOUR bible states otherwise. Too fucking bad. Your book lied to you. Get over it. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? John Mayer just asked me, personally, through an assistant, to sing backup on his new CD. |
Actually, devo, I was watching a thing on Nova last night where they found the leap from Creationism to Intelligent Design. Apparently there was some court case back in the 80s where creationism was ruled to not be allowed to be taught in science classes, and there was a textbook that was supposed to be a "Christian Science" book. It was found that the edition prior to the judgement used the term Creationism and the one afterwards had used find and replace with the term Intelligent Design (and apparently at some points they screwed up and wound up with the term Creintelligent Designism or something like that).
As someone with a published paper, I've also had my own work go through the peer review process. How ya doing, buddy? |
I really fucking hate myself for playing Devil's Advocate, but could you possibly link to the paper that you reviewed and the one you had published RR, and give any details you remember about the peer review process for both?
Sigh... I should stay out of this shit but I just want this fucking thread to die already. There's nowhere I can't reach. |
Quick bio: Devout conservative Christian, life-science teacher, political liberal
I often find it difficult to be an old fashioned practicing Christian that knows so dang much about evolution. My solution (albeit a total cop-out) is to just trust that God is the creator, and while the process of evolution seems to be at odds with a literal interpretation of the events chronicled in the book of Genesis, I have faith that in next world everything will make sense. And that goes for all the other crazy stuff in the world that doesn't seem to make sense. Knowing what I know I can't help but believe that evolution has shaped the biosphere and continues to influence life on earth. But I also understand that entropy is a governing principle of thermodynamics and organized life forms capable of conscious thought seems (to me at least) to be the exact opposite of that. Is it all chance and physics? Was the first living cell a random event? Can some ingenious mathematical equation predict every choice an organism will make throughout its life? How bout the choices I make? Science has been wrong in the past. Before Darwin there was an assortment of crazy theories that made sense to people back then. Atomic theory went through multiple erroneous incarnations before we got to the contemporary model, which I hope is finally correct. And even now there is uncertainty about how much farther we can break down sub-atomic particles. Blah blah blah. I don't think Christians should use, or try to use, science to explain ALL the events in the Bible. Stick with the stuff for which there is little or no debate. If you believe and have faith, then you should be comfortable with the idea of a Creator that is supernatural. The same science that landed men on the moon, created television, nuclear reactors, etc. also came up with evolution. And while some may disagree, we can't help but go along with it. Additional Spam: ...and on a totally separate note... Please don't judge all Christians by the ones you see and read about in the media. Most practicing Christians I know, most of them here, and most of the ones everyone else knows personally tend to be quiet humble people. The Christians that make the news are almost always of the loud, obtrusive, and delusional variety. Oftentimes very un-Christian like in nature. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
Last edited by killerpineapple; Nov 14, 2007 at 07:55 PM.
Reason: This member got a little too post happy.
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I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?
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Thanks Seris! |
Look guys, I'll be down with creation science when it can produce predictive models that we can use to create medical treatments.
Let me know how that goes, guys. Seriously, I support any method to cure cancer and shit. I was speaking idiomatically. |
The paper I helped look at I can't link you to since it was rejected because it didn't get accepted. The research group I was part of got to review it since they used some of our data in the interpretation of our data, but they completely misinterpreted our research, and didn't actually add anything new to the scientific body of knowledge (actually would have made it worse by putting out bad info!). What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
Creationism is pretty funny, since it requires one to assume that people who have trained for their lives in the principles of science are all abject failures, while Christian pundits are able to point out "obvious" flaws in evolution.
Entropy on Earth can be reduced, since it isn't a closed system. We receive energy from the sun and radiate energy out into space. FELIPE NO
Last edited by Interrobang; Nov 15, 2007 at 02:16 AM.
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What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
Jam it back in, in the dark. |
There's nowhere I can't reach. |
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
Not EVERY Christian is a nutjob. I live with a few reasonably nice ones. But a substantial enough majority of them are that I've stopped even pretending at "tolerance" when it comes to inflicting your religious views on the public square. I leave my religion at home. Why can't you?
I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
You know, if you're not in science, why are you coming in here telling us what science is and what science isn't? That's a fair bit of hubris there, mate. I was speaking idiomatically. |
LordSword, one question.
Do you honestly believe that? How ya doing, buddy?
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What does that sign even mean? God made the land animals, including dinosaurs, "after their kind"? After whose kind? What kind? Kind of what? Is it me, or is that sign kind of retarded.
Also, the creator of this thread is a huge prick and probably a narcissist. Here's a little snack for you, my friend: Go fuck yourself, you pseudo-proselytistic fucking recreant. FELIPE NO |
And my apologies if I seem to be inflicting my views on anyone. I just want to defend my beliefs and encourage people not to judge a Christian (or any other group for that matter) by their cover. And for the record, I tend to vote for policy that benefits everyone, not just the zealous. One of the essential doctrines of Christianity is that you are not supposed to force your faith on anyone. And as many have already pointed out, there are quite of few Christians who, for whatever reason, don't adhere to that premise. If the seed doesn't bear fruit, then you're supposed to move on. Which is what a lot do, but it's hardly as memorable as that crazy guy screaming at you to repent. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
I'm not a Christian, so I don't know how you guys do stuff, but some people say it's your job to impose your religion on others, and then some say you shouldn't like you just did there. Which is it? I'm a little lost here. Which congregation do you belong to? Must be different from Loserbutt's there. Which is why I always wonder why you all call yourselves Christian when you don't really believe in the same things. (Yea, yea, Jesus and all that - but the Muslims also believe Christ was a prophet or some thing...so uhhh...) Jam it back in, in the dark. |
There's nowhere I can't reach. |
This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
Licensed Commercial Pilot!
Currently: Float Pilot in BC Need a pilot? PM Me. Commercial Pilot, land and seaplanes, single and multi engines, instrument rating... I'm a jack of all trades! I can even be type rated! |