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Murdoch's finally convinced enough Bancrofts to sell.
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Old Jul 31, 2007, 03:16 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2007, 02:16 PM #1 of 27
Murdoch's finally convinced enough Bancrofts to sell.

http://online.wsj.com/public/us

...Aaaaaand there goes the country's best newspaper. So, after the online-minded redesign and Murdoch's likely tampering with the company, where are conservatives supposed to get their news? Can anyone help me?

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Old Jul 31, 2007, 04:42 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2007, 04:42 PM #2 of 27
I'd suggest becoming a libertarian.

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Old Jul 31, 2007, 09:08 PM #3 of 27
Because that would help with finding news how?

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Old Jul 31, 2007, 09:25 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2007, 09:25 PM #4 of 27
Well if he defines his news by his political identity, Reason is as good as any.

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Old Jul 31, 2007, 09:54 PM 2 #5 of 27

...Aaaaaand there goes the country's best newspaper. So, after the online-minded redesign and Murdoch's likely tampering with the company, where are conservatives supposed to get their news? Can anyone help me?



I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 31, 2007, 10:20 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2007, 09:20 PM #6 of 27
Diversify your sources. Find several reputable publications, such as the Economist, National Review, Reason (as already mentioned), and so forth . . . and maybe throw in several blogs while you're at it, to get some more individually flavored punditry.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Jul 31, 2007, 10:21 PM Local time: Jul 31, 2007, 10:21 PM #7 of 27
In all seriousness, Andrew Sullivan is pretty cool beans.

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 04:59 PM Local time: Aug 1, 2007, 03:59 PM #8 of 27
Psh. I've worked for those guys. I'll pass.

Diversify your sources. Find several reputable publications, such as the Economist, National Review, Reason (as already mentioned), and so forth . . . and maybe throw in several blogs while you're at it, to get some more individually flavored punditry.
Oh, I subscribe to the 1st 2 (though I'm not a fan of weblogs). I'm talking about substantial, daily news sources, though, especially physical copies.

In all seriousness, Andrew Sullivan is pretty cool beans.
See the 2nd sentence above. I mean, I have the Telegraph and Yomiuri Shimbun (and so on) in other countries, but I'm not going to get good stuff from the New York Times or Washington Post. All other sources concentrate too much on regional happenings, I think.

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 06:21 PM #9 of 27
I'm just a dumb liberal hippie, here, so can anyone explain to me how Rupert Murdoch can possibly make a newspaper less conservative-minded?

Everything the man touches goes absolutely paleolithic.

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 06:56 PM 1 #10 of 27
It sounds to me like he was complaining he can't get a paper copy after Murdoch moves it online. Perhaps he is more conservative than this Murdoch fellow.

Personally, I'm beginning to feel that text on paper is a fossil.

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 07:06 PM 1 #11 of 27
Personally, I'm beginning to feel that text on paper is a fossil.
You, uh, you're only talking about newspapers, right? Because ebooks are crap for actual reading (if valuable for textsearches).

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 07:18 PM #12 of 27
How are ebooks shit for reading? Everyone says this, but no one gives reasons. I find them preferable.

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 07:25 PM #13 of 27
Reaction time is a factor in this, so please pay attention. Now, answer as quickly as you can.

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 07:41 PM Local time: Aug 1, 2007, 07:41 PM 1 #14 of 27
Can't read an e-book lying down, baby.

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 09:47 PM Local time: Aug 1, 2007, 08:47 PM #15 of 27
I'm just a dumb liberal hippie, here, so can anyone explain to me how Rupert Murdoch can possibly make a newspaper less conservative-minded?

Everything the man touches goes absolutely paleolithic.
I wasn't actually implying that, though others have suggested that he make it more centrist and luxury-minded to grab some of the New 'york Times' marketshare.

I meant that he'll tamper with the brilliant reporting, too, ruining the best conservative-minded (or, as I'd argue, absolute best) newpaper in the nation. Many don't want to waste the subscription and premium content costs on agenda-driven advocacy journalism.

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Old Aug 1, 2007, 10:58 PM #16 of 27
Yeah, we wouldn't want the WSJ to have an agenda

Wait, didn't you just call it "conservative-minded"

Do you know what agenda means

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 02:38 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2007, 02:38 AM 1 #17 of 27
Personally, I'm beginning to feel that text on paper is a fossil.
Agree. Let's stop killing trees, please.

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 02:39 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2007, 08:39 AM #18 of 27
Wow I like how this deal will totally fuck up US freedom of press

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 07:23 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2007, 07:23 AM #19 of 27
How will it 'totally fuck up US freedom of the press'?

Rupert Murdoch and News Corp aren't the U.S. gov't.

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 08:32 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2007, 09:32 PM #20 of 27
Yeah, we wouldn't want the WSJ to have an agenda

Wait, didn't you just call it "conservative-minded"

Do you know what agenda means
An angenda is something you disagree with of course!

I'm not sure what's scarier, the existance of overtly biased, mainstream newspapers or the existance of people who insist on reading them.

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 08:39 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2007, 08:39 AM #21 of 27
It's not as bad as it sounds, really. Conservative leaning papers are going to run stories that will interest conservatives, and their op/eds will also take conservative slants from the perspective of the editors.

The problem is when fake journalism is traipsed around like A Weekend at Bernie's in order to push the political agendas of the controlling interest. See also: Fox News.

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 08:58 AM #22 of 27
How will it 'totally fuck up US freedom of the press'?

Rupert Murdoch and News Corp aren't the U.S. gov't.
Because the increasing consolidation of US Media Sources into one or two companies allows a small select group of people to control national press coverage?

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 09:10 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2007, 10:10 PM #23 of 27
Where I come from, there is only ONE daily newspaper. You guys whould just be grateful.

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 12:27 PM #24 of 27
That's the case in a lot of America as well. Only incredibly large cities can support multiple newspapers.

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Old Aug 2, 2007, 12:48 PM Local time: Aug 2, 2007, 12:48 PM #25 of 27
Big City papers around here distribute regionally. My town, for instance, can get the Tulsa World daily in addition to our shitty ass local paper.

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