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I'm excited about the relaunch of ECW. I was a big fan back in the day and I'm glad it's coming back, but I have some serious doubts. I have a feeling it is going to be very watered down. I saw One Night Stand last year, and I thought it was pretty good, although a little watered down. I have not yet seen what they plan one doing, but, for one thing, I doubt they are going to be as "hardcore" as they were. I have never seen WWE do anything almost deadly(except for Mankind/Taker Hell in the Cell, but that wasn't planned, and I don't mean stunts like Owen Hart did), ECW seemed to do life threaten things all the time.
The only thing I know about the future ECW so far are where they are going to take place. ECW was really only held in small arenas that seated a couple thousand. They are always packed to the brim with hardcore fans chanting and screaming. It had a cult-like feeling. Now they will be having most events in the same huge arenas WWE events have, which I think is going to make turn into just another WWE brand fanwise, like the teenage girls screaming for John Cena and The Rock. The hardcore ECW fans seemed to have respect for wrestlers who have talent and never responded to being told who to root for. It was never about Heel or Face in ECW, fans rooted for wrestlers based on respect. That's why RVD was never "over" in WWE, but was God in ECW. I just hope they put on a good show, something different then what WWE does, but I have plenty of doubts. I hope I'm proved wrong. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
Last edited by Enter User Name; May 31, 2006 at 07:30 PM.
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I just watched the "ECW" show from last night. My fears have come true. It made me feel sick watching that. It was horrible. That was not ECW, that was WWE with some ECW logos. It's pathetic. Not that I have a problem with WWE, but to call that ECW makes me sick.
They had it in a big arena. Lame. They can't use "Real" music, only shitty stock music.(What was the shit Sandman came out to? Where's the Enter Sandman?) The fans suck(typical uber casual WWE fans). All of the wrestlers are jobbers except for Kurt Angle and The Big Show, go figure. It had no ECW feel at all. There is nothing "extreme" about it at all. They make all of the ECW Wrestlers look like idiots when they all hang out in the locker room chanting "ECW, ECW". And all they talking about it invading RAW. Blah. They remind me of NWO, only even more watered-down then them! This new ECW makes NWO look cool. Sorry for the rant, I'm just very disappointed because I was really hoping for something unique, and all we get is WWE Brand 3 - ECW. Like I said, I don't hate WWE, I watch it. Back around 98-99, I was obsessed with WWF. But once ECW went belly-up and WWF bought at WCW and killed it. WWE has been going down the toilet ever since in my opinion. I was speaking idiomatically. |
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Anybody notice that on Comcast On Demand, they added WWE 24/7 today(in my area at least)? I might get it, it's $7.99/month. Anyone have it? How much content is there?
Double Post: Nevermind, I didn't notice that WWE.com had the schedule on the website. What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
Last edited by Enter User Name; Aug 15, 2006 at 06:43 PM.
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Kurt Angle is a great wrestler, but he is not a huge draw like The Rock or Steve Austin were. TNA will probably see a slight increase in ratings, but nothing major(.5 of a rating tops). I think it would have been better if it was never announced, and they somehow kept it a secret and then on the day they went primetime, Kurt Angle just shows up on TV. That would create major buzz. It would be like "anything can happen in TNA" (which doesn't seem to apply to WWE anymore).
I'll definitely check it out myself though. How ya doing, buddy? |
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Kurt Angle is not worth as much as Steve Austin or The Rock to the respective brands, because Pro Wrestling is about "entertainment" first, wrestling second. I agree that Kurt Angle is a fantastic pro wrestling(one of the best of all time IMO), but he is not what you would call a "draw". He doesn't sell massive amounts of tickets, and draw huge rating based on people saying "I want to see Kurt Angle".
6, 7, 8 years ago, wrestling was at its prime, not because of the wrestling, but because the entertaining characters such as The Rock and Steve Austin, now that they are gone, ratings are HALF what they were, and have been that way consistantly for several years now, long before Kurt Angle left WWE and WWE ratings are the same now, since Angle left. Kurt Angle going to TNA won't impact the ratings very much unfortunately, I am sure of that, it will need much more. If someone with the popularity of Steve Austin or The Rock 7 years ago defected to TNA, that is something what cause a huge growth for TNA. So you cannot honestly say that a Kurt Angle is as valuable as Steve Austin or The Rock to any of the companies, although I'd like to believe it, that's just not true. What, you don't want my bikini-clad body? |
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Hold it up there, buddy. I'm not a WWE mark. I'm not a TNA mark either. As a matter of fact, I barely even watch wrestling at all anymore. I used to be HUGE wrestling fan, but it began to become boring to me unfortunately. I'm not clinging to any hope of it getting back to the way it was in the past. I honestly don't about the past because I want something new for a change. The only thing I wish, is that I was a huge fan again. If anything, I'm actually rooting for TNA to pull though, and become the dominate brand, because hopefully something different and fresh will maybe revive my love for wrestling in general. In short, I have ZERO biased. Anyway, for you to say that wrestling now, is about wrestling first, and entertain second, is crazy. Sure I would love it to be that way, but it's just not anymore. It hasn't been that way since the early 90s. When I'm talking about it being Entertainment first, Wrestling second, i'm talking about what is drawing people in to watch the shows and buy the tickets. When Steve Austin hit it big and rating soared, it was NOT because he was a great WRESTLER that everyone just had to see, it's because he was a great ENTERTAINER. It really had nothing to do with wrestling. The WCW vs WWF battle that happened in '98-'00, was not a battle about who had better wrestlers because frankly almost all the main event guys at that time, flat out sucked in the ring. They were however great entertainers, and they were able to draw in new fans, that's why pro wrestling was so popular... ...leading back to my point, Kurt Angle will NOT make TNA a success, he will help a little bit, but it will need more than 1 new great wrestler. He will definitely provide great, entertaining matches, like he always has, but he is not a draw, so there is no way in hell that is as valuable to the business as Steve Austin or The Rock were. IMPOSSIBLE. Bottom line. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
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If you look at the ratings in the early-mid 1990's when there was hardly any storyline type entertainment, it almost purely wrestling, RAW and Nitro combined were 5.0 ratings. In '98-'00 when storyline quality and character were at a height(which is why I only brought up those years), ratings were at around 11.0, MORE THAN DOUBLE. Why is that? Hmm, let me think... wrestling matches weren't getting paticularly better, so maybe it was just a coincidence that rating increased as storylines got better... I think not. Now ratings are down since back then, now down to 3.5-4.0 ratings for Raw. Yet the actual wrestling matches are BETTER than they were back then, storylines suck though, maybe in just another coincidence. NOT. If you look at the FACTS, how can you possibly say that Pro Wrestling is more about Wresting and less about Entertainment when it comes to the ratings? You honestly sound retarded and you obviously don't understand the wrestling business if you think otherwise. As for PPVs, 93,000 people bought tickets to watch HOGAN and ANDRE 'THE GIANT' WRESTLE at Wrestlemania 3... 'nough said. Look, that is a whole other topic. My topic was how Kurt Angle is not going to bring in big ratings because he in not a big draw. He is a great wrestler and very entertaining in the ring and even on the mic, but he is NOT a draw. The Rock and Steve Austin were HUGE draws.(Yes, I can only bring them up because there is no huge draw currently in wrestling, which, in effect, is why rating are way, way down.) Will Kurt Angle help TNA? Yes, he adds more crediblity to TNA, but will only slightly help increase ratings. Will he alone make TNA become the dominate company? Absolutely, not. SO ENOUGH OF YOUR FOOLISHNESS! How ya doing, buddy?
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LOL, Samoa Joe as big of a draw as Stone Cold Steve Austin?:biggrin: You indeed are "humoring" me, but not in the way you would like to be. You are honestly making me laugh here. I'll reply to you this last time, then I'm done with you. Let me analyze your comment bit by bit here.
Believe it or not, I love Kurt Angle, he's one of my top 5 wrestlers of all time, and even INCREDIBLE on the mic. I love him MUCH more than I like the The Rock or Steve Austin. BUT HE IS NOT A DRAW. I hold no bias toward him, I just tell it like it is. Okay, granted, he will draw in some rating(a little bit, like I said already), but not on the scale of The Rock or Steve Austin did, not even close. But if you would have read what I said before, all I said "it will take more than Kurt Angle" to make TNA a success, and for some stupid reason, you are like, half-arguing with me. On one had, you agree with me that he won't make TNA dominant, and you repeat my point that he will help, yet you argue with me about it, which makes absolutely no sense, my friend. This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it. |
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The problem with TNA is Jeff Jarrett practically runs things, much like Triple H does for WWE. But while Triple H was kinda sorta willing to take a back seat in a way, Jarrett never has since TNA started. Kurt Angle has only been successful in WWE as a heel, and was a great heel, one of the best, but as a face, he is terrible. Since Jarrett will only ever be a heel, and he has to be the TOP heel, they will likely being Angle in as a face(which he sucks at), like they did with Christian(who's even worse at being face), and it will probably end up being boring.
Hopefully I am wrong though. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
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Samoa Joe is the biggest Taz ripoff I've ever seen. Except Taz was actually cool though(in ECW only of course).
I was speaking idiomatically. |
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Has anybody else seen Wrestling Society X on MTV? I just saw it tonight. I'm surprised I actually liked it quite a bit. It almost, in a way, has an old ECW feel to it. It is only 30 minutes, and there were only 2 matches, but I was entertained, which is more than I can say for anything I see in WWE or TNA these days. Maybe I like it because it is so different though. I'll definitely watch it again.
What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
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You guys hear that Mike Awesome committed suicide?
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The last one I remember was Kurt Angle. He had the receding hairline, and it kept receding more and more, so they had the hair vs hair match as an excuse to cut his hair bald. Of course, Trump isn't even affiliated with Wrestling and Kurt Angle is, so that is the only thing that would make me bet against Trump losing. But I don't think Vince needs a haircut, and Trump definitely does, so I would be surprised if Trump won. Jam it back in, in the dark. |
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I highly doubt it is against the law to put the american flag at half mast for a fake death. Maybe they didn't put the flag at half mast because why do they even need to go though the trouble of doing that when only a mental patient would believe that McMahon really died.
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They did a similar thing a couple years ago when they had that arab terrorist gimmick, I forget the wrestler's name now, but they were pushing him to main event status almost. Then the London bombings happened, which had absolutely nothing to do with wrestling, and they fired the guy soon after and he was practically never heard from again. I could understand stopping this McMahon death gimmick if it was when Eddie Guerrero or when Owen Hart died(more so than Eddie), but stopping it for Sherri Martel when she died after the storyline had already started, that's ridiculous. Sherri Martel didn't even die of natural causes and she didn't commit suicide, which probably means she OD'd, which I can't feel sorry for. Even if that is not how she died, no matter what circumstance that she died of, I do not feel warrants changing a huge storyline. I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body? |
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What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now? |
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Damn, Chris Benoit, that sucks. I hope they find out who murdered them. I might even be murder/suicide. Who knows?
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You know what? As tasteless as that would be, something edgy like that would be get a lot of people to watch. Although it would be piss a lot of people off, it would be an amazing trick to play on people. Imagine, a month from now Chris Benoit walks out to ring after everyone thought he was dead. WWE would never have the balls to do something like that though. I think it would be kind of cool though.
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