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[Multiplatform] Devil May Cry 4
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Old Jul 20, 2007, 05:01 AM Local time: Jul 20, 2007, 10:01 PM #201 of 321
Hey! Same outfit as Le Blanc!

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 06:28 AM #202 of 321
What's better then Assasin's Creed you ask... Credo and his army of Altairs in the background, lol.

New characters are always cool in DMC, though Agnus is definatly a freekazoid.

Lastly, I'm pretty sure that I remember in a designer interview that it was said that Trish, Lady or both will return in DMC 4. I'll try and look it up and post a link when/if I find the source again.

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 03:05 PM Local time: Jul 21, 2007, 01:05 AM #203 of 321
http://www.jeux-france.com/news21071...e-precise.html

Famitsu scans plus new pics, maybe from site.

I just hope that trish would be in it, i want to see her rendered in this engine. Game is looking full of content.

I heard that game is delayed till feb 08, it makes me sad, really capcom is taking too much time for both DMC4 and resi5(2009).

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 03:56 PM Local time: Jul 20, 2007, 02:56 PM #204 of 321
Looks like they run through three scenes from the game. It appears that Dante is the first boss, which shouldn't come as a big shock. I wonder if it'll be a must win or else game over battle, or if it's a win or lose story continues battle. Hmmm, actually from the screens looks like you have to knock at Dante's hp till there's one notch left, then the story continues.

I heard that game is delayed till feb 08, it makes me sad, really capcom is taking too much time for both DMC4 and resi5(2009).
According to the article expected to release in Japan before the years end. Maybe that Feb 08 delay is in respect to the NA release. If that is indeed the case, I'll be importing my copy (region free PS3 games, score!).

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Old Jul 20, 2007, 10:07 PM #205 of 321
If the NA versions is delayed, that's just simply inexcusable, what do they have to translate? menues? C'mon, that still shouldn't require a Feb '08 release. What BS, especially when all the voice acting is already in english.

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Old Jul 21, 2007, 07:23 AM Local time: Jul 21, 2007, 05:23 PM #206 of 321
Looks like they run through three scenes from the game. It appears that Dante is the first boss, which shouldn't come as a big shock. I wonder if it'll be a must win or else game over battle, or if it's a win or lose story continues battle. Hmmm, actually from the screens looks like you have to knock at Dante's hp till there's one notch left, then the story continues.


According to the article expected to release in Japan before the years end. Maybe that Feb 08 delay is in respect to the NA release. If that is indeed the case, I'll be importing my copy (region free PS3 games, score!).
Expected is what again makes me sad, developers aren't sure themselves.
Even Dec is a long wait i was expecting oct or nov, but dec end or jan start ..., but years end got lots of other titles, its better to have DMC later alone wihtout any other games to bother.


High res pics

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...70721/dmc4.htm

I love this one totally bad ass
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/...70721/dmc4.htm

I wanted dante to be like this, good they are working equally hard on dante's character . I don't want Capcom to make deliberately Nero cool enough that he overshadows dante.
Dante has his own stature and Capcom should keep/maintain it.


BTW, this chick gloria, her knockers has got polyedges, not so next gen.
Deadrising engine showing its colors.

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Old Aug 3, 2007, 02:23 AM Local time: Aug 3, 2007, 01:23 AM #207 of 321
Gamespy interview with Hiroyuki Kobayashi. I think the highlight of it was the announcement of no Vergil in DMC4. Also mentions ratio of playtime with Nero and Dante is like 60/40. Oh and he wouldn't confirm that Trickster and Royal Guard are back, but does say that there are other styles that can switched to in real time.

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GameSpy: Thanks for meeting us today. Could you introduce yourself?
Hiroyuki Kobayashi: My name is Hiroyuki Kobayashi and I'm a producer at Capcom. Devil May Cry 4 is one of my games, also in Japan I'm the producer for Sengoku Basara.

GameSpy: How do you feel about next-gen, to start with?
Kobayashi: It's definitely a fun experience to work with the new next-gen consoles, especially with the variety of things you can do, more graphics and whatnot. But since this was the very first title Capcom released on the PS3, it was definitely a hard step to actually go through. Nobody knows anything about how to develop on the PS3, nobody really had that experience working with PS3 games. So, they're basically the first team to kind of pioneer within Capcom to release a next-gen [PS3] game.

GameSpy: Is that part of why it became multi-platform?
Kobayashi: It wasn't that the PS3 was a hard-to-work with machine. Capcom has a PC-based engine that they use to develop games and Devil May Cry 4 was developed with that same PC engine. Basically it branches out from there. You can have it on one central PC engine, and then make it compatible for the PS3 or the 360, so it's really just one workflow. So it really wasn't just that the PS3 was a hard-to-work with machine. Also, Capcom's operational goal was to release games on multiple platforms so that more players could actually play the games. Because the 360 is a popular console for both the North American market and Europe, it was natural for Capcom to branch out as well.

GameSpy: So we saw DMC4 and got hands-on with it at Capcom's pre-E3 event. A lot of the press saw it and thought "It's just a prettier DMC." But then they played it and thought, "Oh wow, it's a prettier DMC!" Is the team happy with the approach of minute improvements that really take advantage of the graphical capability, or is it just a stopgap?
Kobayashi: Of course, since this game is released on the PS3 and the 360, the graphical improvement is like a baseline, a minimum It's a minimum thing that they need to conquer. But bringing in the new element of the Devil Bringer was done because the team is always looking for new ways to make unique action games. That's why the Devil Bringer was brought about; to bring new action to the old DMC style. It's a constant struggle to come up with new ideas, new improvements of course, and obviously we'll continue to improve with the new releases.

GameSpy: How much does the Devil Bringer having a ranged throw change the whole impact of the game? As opposed to only being able to grab from up close...
Kobayashi: Of course, it was the goal to come up with a new action game, to keep up with fresh action games. Having the Devil Bringer enables the player to bring the enemies to the characters. Of course Dante and Nero have the sword and the guns, where the characters would actually repel the enemy, and then you have to actually go to the enemy and do the combos and such. Adding the new element of pulling in the enemy and then chaining combos is completely new. So that was the idea to use Devil Bringer with this new release. Also, what was hard to implement with the Devil Bringer, in terms of graphics and animations, was the number of variations you can use. So many combinations and so many movements, it was definitely a challenge.

GameSpy: So, after introducing the Devil Bringer while working on Nero, was it tough to go back to working on Dante and realize that you were stuck with what seems like a problem: that Dante can only push people away, he doesn't have this new key ability?
Kobayashi: Because Nero is a new playable factor, it's a completely different system of thought between Dante and Nero. In previous games, like DMC3, Dante had the Gunslinger and the Swordmaster styles, but now in DMC4, those two styles of Dante are more combined. It's easier to use, you don't have to switch back and forth. But Nero is a completely new attacker, so he introduces a new element, a new action. But no, Nero and Dante are basically separate.

GameSpy: Just to clear this up, you can switch between any of the styles from DMC3 on the fly, or just Swordmaster and Gunslinger?
Kobayashi: The main point for Dante in DMC4, this is released information, is that you can switch back and forth between SM and GS in real time. Of course there are other styles that you can switch to in real time as well. Nero's biggest selling point is his Devil Bringer and how he uses that in the game. Dante's selling point is the ability to switch back and forth on the fly.

GameSpy: On that note, is Dante going to be, essentially, expert mode? It seems like if you have combos that go from GS to SM on the fly, it's going to be really hard, like DMC3 original release hard.
Kobayashi: You switch from Nero to Dante in the game, and Dante is already strong enough. The players of previous games already know this, so this is like just one step up from where he was in other games. But for newer players, Dante is strong enough that you can actually go through and enjoy the game just being a Gunslinger, because that ability is strong enough. He's strong enough in that mode.

GameSpy: So, switching from Nero to Dante, is that something that the player chooses, or is that something that happens at pre-assigned times?
Kobayashi: The player will not be able to switch from Dante to Nero on their own. Within the larger story of DMC4, it gradually shifts from Nero to Dante, so that's when the player switches between the characters.

GameSpy: What's the ratio you're looking for between Nero and Dante?
Kobayashi: Initially I thought about Dante and Nero being about 50-50, but now it's a little more focused on Nero, so I'd say 60-40.

GameSpy: Storywise, are we looking at a prequel or a sequel?
Kobayashi: In terms of the storyline, from the previous titles, DMC3 comes first, and then DMC1, and then DMC4comes after.

GameSpy: And it seems like the order Nero belongs to was founded by Dante at some point in the past. Is that the case? Can we find out anything about the order?
Kobayashi: Dante is not the founder of this order. However this order worships Dante's father. Dante's character is initially an enemy, he attacks this order. Nero's companion gets attacked by Dante, and that's how the story goes.

GameSpy: Are we going to see Dante's brother?
Kobayashi: No, he doesn't come in the game. [Kobayashi speaks to his translator for a moment]. He says you are a fan! (laughter)

GameSpy: Is there any validity to the PS3/360 performance comparisons?
Kobayashi: I believe that the PS3 and the 360 are about the same level, they have the same specs. Leaving aside personal thoughts about each machine, I won't say that the PS3 or the 360 is above the other…It's about development, it's about the thing.
http://uk.ps3.gamespy.com/playstatio.../809520p1.html

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Old Aug 22, 2007, 11:47 PM #208 of 321
This is one badass frick'n overlord... I mean trailer. ^^;

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23903.html

WATCH IT NOW OR DIE!!!

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Old Aug 23, 2007, 02:03 AM Local time: Aug 23, 2007, 01:03 AM #209 of 321
Awesome! I gotta say Langdon really stepped up his performance for Dante, giving us a much deeper/mature sounding Dante. Now, I wonder if that was the PS3 build or the 360 build that was shown.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 03:42 AM #210 of 321
New Famitsu out revealing Trish and Lady!
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Old Sep 19, 2007, 04:00 AM Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 02:00 PM #211 of 321
Damn THIS IS WHAT i call TOTAL FAN SERVICE.
Can't be happier, Trish and LAdy bothe looking SEXY as hell.
Now i want DMC4 more than MGS4.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 06:30 AM #212 of 321
omg! Trish is Awesome! not sure about the look of lady though, yes she look more sexy but she look like she lost that "boyish" that I really liked (I'm probably the only who understand what I just said >.>) anyway it's only one scan so I hope she still got the same attitude ^^

I don't remember but is DMC4 after DMC2? If so I wonder if the "Devil never Cry" still exits XD I'm curious to see how's the interaction between Lady and Trish (maybe will see some jealousy?)

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 07:13 AM Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 05:13 AM 1 #213 of 321
... Trish looks the same, which, as it was before, isn't good. Lady is looking even better (sluttier), so this is about what I expected. I mean, shit, Trish hasn't changed a fucking bit.

Capcom: "We're going with the obvious winner here."

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 08:34 AM #214 of 321
@Inhert
DMC4 does take place after DMC 2 but it sounds like Capcom is totally pretending that DMC2 never happened, which is a good thing. Also Lady and Trish already met in the Anime which had them fighting for 3/4 of the episode before Trish went back out on her own. (Trish and Dante kind of split up, but they're still friends)

@Rotorblade
Trish changed her clother once in the Anime before going back to her original attire. Oh well, guess devils don't need to change their attire much, i don't know. lol

Speaking of, the final 12th episode comes out today. It came out last week in japan, but the subbed version by AonE & Conclave comes out today, can't wait.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 09:44 AM #215 of 321
@Inhert
DMC4 does take place after DMC 2 but it sounds like Capcom is totally pretending that DMC2 never happened, which is a good thing. Also Lady and Trish already met in the Anime which had them fighting for 3/4 of the episode before Trish went back out on her own. (Trish and Dante kind of split up, but they're still friends)
that's what I though and is probably a good thing because I think gamers too are acting like DMC2 never existed XD

as for Trish and Lady fighting, I sure hope it will happen again in DMC4

now that someone mentioned it, yeah they could at least make a little change in Trish outfit :\ as for the more "sluttier" style of lady, that's what i don't like about her new look... I think that look would go better on Trish XD

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 10:29 AM #216 of 321
Just watched the 12th and final episode of the Anime and it ends off in a way that I believe is supposed to be right before the start of DMC2. Apparently DMC2 is just a job for a rich client (being the old hag that never told me Sparda's story in DMC2). But that sounds like the only purpose and motive from the hint, it was simply for money, no real siginigance. However it still doesn't explain the retarted ending of DMC2 where he rides off into hell... for what purpose who the hell knows. Oh well, at least now I can just pass DMC2 off as, "meh, it was only a simple mission for coin, nothing else."

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 10:50 AM Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 08:50 PM #217 of 321
If i remember correctly developers said themselves in one of the interviews that DMC2 never existed.
Also remember that Enzo scoop, part 2 dante is not really dante.

Whether they will link anime with DMC4 , its still about to be seen.
I wish they dont and trish fights with lady on first encounter would be cool.

I prefer Trish in her old clothes , she looks much better in nextgen. Her black outfit is her trademark believe me.

Who knows we could might get chance to play as trish as unlockable character and then her unockable new clothes.
Its capcom they do it often.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 12:37 PM Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 10:37 AM 1 #218 of 321
No disrespect, but there's a million ways to try and sugar coat it and all I can really say is that Trish is fucking ugly. Old and Busted, that's Trish. New hotness, that's every new female. I don't know what the obsession with DMC1 is past the fact that it had "Zeitgeist." I can understand and grasp that, yes it was new at the time and basically established the 3D action genre. Thing is that a billion other better games (HYPERBOLE) have been released and they all excel past DMC1. Yes, I give it its innovation due, but it isn't the gold standard.

That being said, fuck Trish.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 12:47 PM #219 of 321
Uhhh... the only other 3D hack&slash action game that is even as hard or deep as DMC is Ninja Gaiden, and even that doesn't have as cool of characters or cinematics as DMC so I don't quite know where you're coming from.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 12:51 PM Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 10:51 AM 2 #220 of 321
If you want to go into what you enjoyed more as a game, sorry, I'm not going to entertain that. Yes, people view God of War as better for some reason. They view other games that specialize in risk reward style as better, so if I define my terms to my advantage then I get to play "back and forth" internet game with you and I just don't want to do that.

Fine, you don't know where I'm coming from. I am okay with this.

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In fact, what are you saying? That the only good action game since DMC1 is Ninja Gaiden? That nothing surpasses DMC1? Or do you mean the series? I'll bite.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 01:22 PM #221 of 321
Yeah I mean the series because DMC 3 beat the snot out of 1. The only reason why I don't group GoW and the like with NG and DMC is because you can mash your way through GoW and still beat the game. Sure you may die more, but that strategy isn't going to work in DMC or NG. So while they're in the same genre... it doesn't mean that they're on the same level. (or at least from where I stand) It's like saying Ghost Recon(PC) and Halo are similar... where other then that they're FPSs, they're nothing alike. But I'm just speaking on a gameplay level, not a presentation level or anything.

I was speaking idiomatically.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 01:27 PM Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 11:27 AM #222 of 321
I think it's fair to make the comparison on the basis that they're all 3D action games, and they both have similarities. We're not talking about drastic differences between something like Doom 1 and System Shock 2 or Thief, believe it or not. And that's what I thought you would get at. I'm not going to deny that DMC has a penchant for flexible combat system or even touch on that whole argument of "mashing through God of War." I wasn't a convert for either series (though I have a respect and love for DMC3), I view Ninja Gaiden as superior in gameplay.

I get what you're trying to say here and all I can say is that my comments focus on DMC1 and not the series. Because, honestly, DMC2 might as well not exist and every good thing in DMC3 had to eventually come to a reminder of Devil May Cry 1 and its generic as fuck setting and now surpassed gameplay.

DMC3 might as well be Devil May Cry 1 to be quite honest, it stands by itself and embarrasses the fuck out of 1.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 01:31 PM Local time: Sep 19, 2007, 12:31 PM #223 of 321
About time they showed Trish and Lady, we all knew they were returning (those of us who saw the concept art anyway). Now they just need to confirm the return of Nelo Angelo.
@Inhert
DMC4 does take place after DMC 2 but it sounds like Capcom is totally pretending that DMC2 never happened, which is a good thing. Also Lady and Trish already met in the Anime which had them fighting for 3/4 of the episode before Trish went back out on her own. (Trish and Dante kind of split up, but they're still friends)
Eh? Wasn't it said in a previous famitsu that the chronology went DMC3 , DMC1, DMC4, and then DMC2. Seems to make the most sense to be seeing as how Lucia has had no mention.

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Old Sep 19, 2007, 01:33 PM #224 of 321
lol, that it does, that it does. It's at least good to see Capcom moving forward with the gameplay at least. Like if you look at everything you could do in DMC3 with the different fighting styles and everything compared to DMC1 that's a big difference over 1 1/2 games I know that it's not the same genre, but even the RE series from RE0 to RE4 what a change that was. This kind of leaves me a bit disappointed even though I'm excited for NG2 because something new to how you played the game would have been nice then just more weapons that you'll individually will use a small amount compared to the dragon blade. But that's a whole nother topic.

But yeah, I get where you're coming from now.

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They probably said that because they know that they really can't pretend that DMC2 doesn't exist because people played it (unfortunatly). However at the same time they don't want to touch it with a ten-foot pole. Therefore we'll probably never going to know when DMC2 really took place because they're never going to acknowledge it. (but of course it's after 1). I still say though that after watching episode 12 that the hint was directed towards DMC2. Because if DMC 2 took place after 4, then that would mean that Nero and everything in DMC 4 will have to have been erased from Dante's mind MIB style after DMC 4. That is depending on how 4 ends of course... which I'm sure won't lead to every character's demise.

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Old Sep 20, 2007, 01:16 AM Local time: Sep 20, 2007, 12:16 AM #225 of 321
Heh, I guess we won't really know till we beat DMC4. But till then, I'll just be sticking with what the developers said in terms of chronology.

Oh and you can download the GC trailer on the Live Marketplace or Japanese PSN, plus a Nero wallpaper on the J PSN. The short version of the TGS trailer can be viewed the updated DMC4 website (new BGM, sounds like credits music, assuming something sung by Kyrie, can anyone rip it?). The trailer shows the gauntlets in action, plus a first look at these Spardan looking enemies...



I wonder if it's possible that Nero ends up turning into one of those Spardan looking things (perhaps even Nelo? as he seems to be slowly consumed by the arm), and is the reason why we get control of Dante?!?

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