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Old Sep 20, 2006, 02:17 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 03:17 PM #201 of 851
The next Ninja Gaiden is going to be on the PS3? I remeber hearing the rumors last year, but I didn't think Team Ninja would really do it.

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 07:25 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 08:25 PM #202 of 851
Originally Posted by Slayer X
Actually it won't. They are updating the system to output 1080p, but the games still won't be a native 1080p so while you'll be able to output it, it will look better when set on 720p. The PS3 on the other hand will be a native 1080p, so when you hook up your 1080p component, or HDMI it is a TRUE 1080p, not a converted 720p to 1080p.

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If they do make the future games to run in a native 1080p, the performance of the games will take a hit, unlike the PS3 that is designed to run in 1080p and therefore it will run in the resolution without having to devert power from other resources just to output 1080p like the 360 will be doing.
As far as I know, there is only one native 1080p game on the PS3 and that is GT. The games at launch will be 720p as well so is there necessarily a difference? I doubt MGS4 will be 1080p, the PS3 does has it's limits so only time will tell. Games I expect to run in full 1080p would be titles like Tetris & Uno within the first year or so. :lolsign:

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Old Sep 20, 2006, 10:51 PM Local time: Sep 20, 2006, 10:51 PM #203 of 851
Originally Posted by Slayer X
Actually it won't. They are updating the system to output 1080p, but the games still won't be a native 1080p so while you'll be able to output it, it will look better when set on 720p. The PS3 on the other hand will be a native 1080p, so when you hook up your 1080p component, or HDMI it is a TRUE 1080p, not a converted 720p to 1080p.

P.S.
If they do make the future games to run in a native 1080p, the performance of the games will take a hit, unlike the PS3 that is designed to run in 1080p and therefore it will run in the resolution without having to devert power from other resources just to output 1080p like the 360 will be doing.
Uhh, no, the PS3 takes a HUGE performance hit from 1080p, just like the Xbox 360 does/would. The PS3 is not "designed" to run at 1080p at all, it's simply an option for lesser graphically demanding games. That's why virtually all major PS3 games are 720p, with only a few like GT4 HD and Virtua Tennis able to run at 1080p. The system is most certainly not 1080p "native", and that's not something it will be able to accomplish very often in games.

If future Xbox 360 games get the option to output at 1080p, it will be in the same boat as the PS3. Especially since few games on either platform could run at that resolution.

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Old Sep 21, 2006, 11:40 AM #204 of 851
Either way though, if you put the same game on both the 360 and the PS3 running at 1080p, and make it something graphic intensive... let's say Ninja Gaiden 2. The 360 would have a much larger likelyness of having performance glitches then the PS3, that's all I'm trying to say. Obviously it takes more power to make anything a higher resolution, hence why the PS1 was in 640/320 and the PS2 was in like 1024/768 (or something)

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Old Sep 24, 2006, 02:04 PM Local time: Sep 24, 2006, 03:04 PM #205 of 851
X360 had a great showing at TGS this year, as far as Japanese games go. Trusty Bell, the Mistwalker RPGs, DOAX2, The Idolmaster (still no date, dammit), Culdecept Saga, Super Robot Wars XO. Nevermind that half of those games are ones that most US gamers don't give a shit about.

I was more impressed by Trusty Bell than the Mistwalker games though. Both Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon look like alot of fun, but Trusty Bell seems a bit more interesting, especially to an anime fan like myself. Plus, I'm interested in seeing how Tri-Crescendo's first completely solo RPG will turn out (as Baiten Kaitos was done with Monolith Soft). Over time, my opinion might change of course.

Watching these games, and then watching the PS3's games, I couldn't help but wonder how long it will take developers to develop games requiring the HD-DVD drive. How long will the standard DVD cut it?

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Old Sep 24, 2006, 02:16 PM #206 of 851
Unfortunatly M$ said that the HD-DVD drive will not and cannot be used for games, so get ready for future games to have disc swapping.

As for TGS, Trusty Bell looked good, but a bit generic to me. Also Namco arn't the best RPG developers around, Xenosaga was good, but it still had some mahor flaws. Blue Dragon looks awesome to me however. As soon as I saw White Knight Story for the PS3 though, I knew that THAT is a TRUE next-gen RPG.

Unfortunatly it's been hard for me to find coverage on many of the other 360 titles because it seems that Sony overtook this years TGS.

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Old Sep 24, 2006, 02:28 PM Local time: Sep 24, 2006, 03:28 PM #207 of 851
Indeed, Trusty Bell does look generic (espeically the art style, which I really like), but I guess I just want that sort of thing. I heard that there's was supposed to be some musical theme to the battle system to make it interesting, but I have yet to see it. Plus, I like the voice actress Hirano Aya, who's playing that Polka character.

White Knight Story is just too impressive! Makes me wish Level 5 were working on other consoles.

IGN had some good X360 coverage. For the rest of the games, I had to search for them on Google Japan using their Japanese titles.

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Old Sep 24, 2006, 02:36 PM #208 of 851
You're a smart one arn't ya? ^^
Looking things up in Japanese and everything. As for IGN, I'll have to go there and check it out. (hoping for a new podcast soon on TGS)

As for Trusty Bell, if it has a music theme to it that hasn't been covered yet then perhaps I'll have to keep an eye on it yet. Last RPG with music based battle system was Rhapsody for the PS1... it wan't all that great ^^;

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Old Nov 16, 2006, 09:57 PM Local time: Nov 16, 2006, 06:57 PM #209 of 851
About zee 360...

I'm thinking of getting one soon, but I'm a bit hesistant because of some problems I've heard happening to the console it self. I've read stories of people having to send their console in for repairs of freezing or red lights of death or something. It reminds me of the problems the first generation PS2's had when they first came out - I unfortunately was one of those people who had a defective 1st gen PS2. Can anyone shed some light on the 360 subject for me? Is it safe to go outside buy an Xbox 360?

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Old Nov 16, 2006, 10:34 PM #210 of 851
Originally Posted by icarus
About zee 360...

I'm thinking of getting one soon, but I'm a bit hesistant because of some problems I've heard happening to the console it self. I've read stories of people having to send their console in for repairs of freezing or red lights of death or something. It reminds me of the problems the first generation PS2's had when they first came out - I unfortunately was one of those people who had a defective 1st gen PS2. Can anyone shed some light on the 360 subject for me? Is it safe to go outside buy an Xbox 360?
If you've waited this long you may as well wait a bit more. There will probably be a price drop sometime soon after the holiday season. Furthermore I believe I've heard rumors about an uptated model which addresses some of the issues of the current one.

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Old Nov 21, 2006, 09:07 PM Local time: Nov 21, 2006, 06:07 PM #211 of 851
Are all the overheating issues I'm reading about true or are people just exaggerating?

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Old Nov 21, 2006, 09:21 PM Local time: Nov 21, 2006, 09:21 PM #212 of 851
Overexaggerated, my good sir.

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Old Nov 22, 2006, 11:12 AM Local time: Nov 22, 2006, 10:12 AM #213 of 851
Originally Posted by Hotobu
If you've waited this long you may as well wait a bit more. There will probably be a price drop sometime soon after the holiday season. Furthermore I believe I've heard rumors about an uptated model which addresses some of the issues of the current one.
Speaking of which... it's been awhile since there was talk of the new fabrication process. When is the 360 slated to move to the smaller nm chip? This should address the heat issues.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Nov 27, 2006, 08:23 AM Local time: Nov 28, 2006, 02:23 AM #214 of 851
I've been told that by using an xbox 360 VGA cable, and a CRT monitor which supports 1280x, you can run xbox 360 games at 720p. Is this true?

If so, awesome. I'd like to get a 360 for Viva Pinata, Chromehounds and Gears of War but I've put it on an infinite hold due to the fuss over high definitions. Acer told me it'd be wise to get a HDTV for a 360, but ultimately I don't want to start the next generation that way.

Also, when the fuck are they going to add Panzer Dragoon Orta and JSRF to their update lists? Sigh. Anyway, I'm in two mind's whether to purchase one, or hold off for a Wii.

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Old Nov 28, 2006, 08:19 AM #215 of 851
All I'm saying is if it's just a tv for gaming in your personal space that 32 inches, a good contrast ratio, and under $1500 should be your guideline for getting a tv that will last you through this generation. But hell if you can already use something you've got with a 30-60 dollar cable then why not. I'd just wonder if you can use that monitor for widescreen or anything.

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Old Nov 28, 2006, 10:43 AM Local time: Nov 29, 2006, 04:43 AM #216 of 851
I dunno, but viewing high definition trailers of 360 games is great. My maximum resolution on this monitor can't do 1080i though, but I don't really mind.

I'm surprised at the amount of detail Gears of War has. Oh, and Oblivion looks great (not half as good as Gears of War) as well.

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Old Nov 29, 2006, 02:37 PM Local time: Nov 29, 2006, 09:37 PM #217 of 851
Get a CRT HD TV. They cost half of LCD's, and the only reason I didn't get one is because they're unavailable. More or less sold out two months in advance over here.
Because it's a normal tube, you'll have no problems regarding contrast ratio or pixel trash. You'll have a TV that will last you a good many years till they've perfected LCD's or they make something better.
Look up on the Philips one's as they're slightly better than Samsung in this case. (Geometry should be perfect on the Philips).

Another thing. If you've waited this long, hold on just a couple of months more. The new low noise/heat 360 is due soon.
I'm waiting for it anyway, and hopefully by then the HD-DVD player will be out too.

And lastly, everyone should check out Assassins Creed.
The HD demonstration trailer at gametrailers is running on the 360, though said to look exactly the same on PS3.
If you haven't seen it yet, GTFO and return when you have =)

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Old Nov 30, 2006, 02:12 AM Local time: Nov 30, 2006, 02:12 AM #218 of 851
It does look better then Oblivion, but what Oblivion did in terms of volume will not be eclipsed anytime soon.

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Old Dec 2, 2006, 05:41 AM Local time: Dec 2, 2006, 02:41 AM #219 of 851
Just wondering if anyone has purchased the two year extended service contract? Trying to gauge whether I should pony up the $60...

Looking at Team XBOX, it seems many bitch that the console seems to break down out of nowhere! Oh well, will look into it at least.

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Old Dec 2, 2006, 12:26 PM Local time: Dec 2, 2006, 12:26 PM #220 of 851
I got it, but I leave my console on over 8 hours a day many days of the week and never had an issue in 13 months. The thing doesnt even get warm, but hey thats just my 360.

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Old Dec 2, 2006, 07:29 PM Local time: Dec 2, 2006, 04:29 PM #221 of 851
Probably couldn't afford not too get one at this point...

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Old Dec 4, 2006, 03:14 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 06:14 PM #222 of 851
I'm buying myself an Xbox 360 this month !!! It was worth the wait since it is a little cheaper and there are many great games now (err Gears of War).

Anyway, I'm buying the 360 together with 3 games, do you guys have an opinion ?
All I know is that I'm taking Dead or Alive 4 because I'm a fan of the series. Besides this one, I was thinkin in Project Gotham Racing 3 and Gears of War.
What d'you think ?

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Old Dec 4, 2006, 04:12 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 11:12 PM #223 of 851
Oblivion is a pretty damn good choice too. It's long and fun. If you like such games, of course...

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Old Dec 4, 2006, 07:42 PM Local time: Dec 4, 2006, 07:42 PM #224 of 851
Yeah pretty good choices there. I am not that big of a fan of fighting games so I wouldn't pick DOA4 though.

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Old Dec 6, 2006, 08:36 AM Local time: Dec 6, 2006, 02:36 PM #225 of 851
I'd get Dead Rising before I got DoA4, having played both. DoA4 doesn't really add anything to earlier incarnations except for flashier graphics.

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