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[Wii] Super Smash Bros. Brawl
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WolfDemon
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Old Jan 4, 2008, 01:49 AM Local time: Jan 3, 2008, 10:49 PM #2051 of 2408
I hope Nintendo is just hiding a whole slew of characters from us because if theres only 24...thats going to be very very boring...
The original Smash Bros had 12 characters. It was by no means boring. The first Mortal Kombat only had 8, and people ate it up. More isn't necessarily better.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 03:44 AM #2052 of 2408
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but weren't there only, essentially, 19-20 characters that weren't considered clones in Melee's line-up? That is, omitting Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Luigi, Falco, Marth (or, Roy), Pichu, and Young Link? We're at 24 confirmed characters for Brawl, with not a single clone, yet. Considering the boost in roster size we saw from the original to Melee, I think we can logically deduce that, excluding clones, there will be roughly 30-35ish (probably closer to 30) original characters. However, that's also including (likely) returning characters such as Captain Falcon (or, Ganondorf, though I think he'll get an original move set this time around), Jigglypuff, Ness and Luigi. I personally feel Marth (or, Roy) and Mewtwo are a mystery -- in terms of their odds of returning -- and I doubt we'll be seeing Mr. Game & Watch again, sadly.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 04:22 AM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 02:22 AM #2053 of 2408
The original Smash Bros had 12 characters. It was by no means boring. The first Mortal Kombat only had 8, and people ate it up. More isn't necessarily better.
Okay and let me ask you this, if they only put 12 characters back in, after playing Melee would you be happy?

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jan 4, 2008, 04:58 AM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 08:28 PM 1 #2054 of 2408
It never fails to amaze how Smash Brothers threads bring out the most stupid, thoughtless and idiotic responses and assumptions.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Jan 4, 2008, 05:07 AM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 02:07 AM #2055 of 2408
Okay and let me ask you this, if they only put 12 characters back in, after playing Melee would you be happy?
That's not at all what I was driving at. I was just saying that the number of characters has no bearing on how fun a game is. DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 has 161 characters in it, but it's more or less the same as the previous two.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 11:29 AM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 10:29 AM #2056 of 2408
Okay and let me ask you this, if they only put 12 characters back in, after playing Melee would you be happy?
Kind of a silly hypothetical, considering we're at 23 or 24 confirmed. That's not really a choice anyone needs to make.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 02:41 PM Local time: Jan 4, 2008, 11:41 AM #2057 of 2408
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I hope Nintendo is just hiding a whole slew of characters from us because if theres only 24...thats going to be very very boring...
With Dark Nation's first comment "Wow, how selfish can you get? Judging a game as 'boring' because it has less then an arbitrary number of characters? I feel a bit insulted here as a prospective game designer (No I'm by no means one yet, but its my career path)". I also feel insulted as well. Because it doesn't matter if a game has more or less characters. That necessarily doesn't mean that the game is boring. How idiotic can you get?

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It never fails to amaze how Smash Brothers threads bring out the most stupid, thoughtless and idiotic responses and assumptions.
Well, it happens in GameFAQs as well. Best to just ignore them.

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Old Jan 4, 2008, 11:31 PM #2058 of 2408
YouTube - Wii Dairanto Smash Brothers X TV Spot(Japan)

Japanese commercial.

If anyone sez there's a Japanese or NA delay, this is proof they're bullshitting.

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Zeta26
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Old Jan 5, 2008, 03:56 AM Local time: Jan 5, 2008, 12:56 AM #2059 of 2408
Eh, don't listen to them. They just say that as they want more characters. Which btw for the last time, may not make it to the Brawl game. And to be honest. I'm happy with what Brawl has.

Like it has Final Smashes, my fav new comer Ike and vet; Link, now Sothe (as an assist trophy) and many other features. I don't think I can be any happier.

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Old Jan 5, 2008, 04:11 AM Local time: Jan 5, 2008, 04:11 AM #2060 of 2408
Perhaps they're purposefully NOT revealing every single character in the game.

I mean, what fun would it be to not have any surprises?

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Old Jan 5, 2008, 04:26 AM #2061 of 2408
Second commercial

Peach's bum = Hearts

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jan 5, 2008, 04:52 AM Local time: Jan 5, 2008, 07:52 PM #2062 of 2408
Also the advert that.. advertises the online mode has some sort of tranny in it.

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Zeta26
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Old Jan 5, 2008, 12:20 PM Local time: Jan 5, 2008, 09:20 AM #2063 of 2408
Nice video . Seems that Japan's now trying to pull all the stops to promote 24th's release. And I suppose that the U.S is going to do similar advertisement as well.

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Old Jan 5, 2008, 05:05 PM #2064 of 2408
Wut bum?

Anyways, the trailer looks "alright" to me... first one's way better >_>

Originally Posted by Infernal Monkey
Also the advert that.. advertises the online mode has some sort of tranny in it.

Haha... you said tranny!

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Last edited by Kimchi; Jan 5, 2008 at 05:07 PM.
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Old Jan 5, 2008, 08:00 PM Local time: Jan 6, 2008, 02:00 PM #2065 of 2408
Here's some better quality videos:

Clips: Super Smash Bros. Brawl Japanese Commercials

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Zeta26
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Old Jan 5, 2008, 08:48 PM Local time: Jan 5, 2008, 05:48 PM #2066 of 2408
And what's more. We start another round of updates tomorrow at 11 p.m .

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Old Jan 5, 2008, 08:50 PM #2067 of 2408
They should just stop with the updates and have this on the page: "Everything will be revealed on the 24th of this month! Hope you enjoy the game!"

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Old Jan 5, 2008, 10:03 PM #2068 of 2408
Hold on here. I think in the second one there may just be a confirmation of a BRAND NEW ITEM!!! If you look to the left of the Lylat Cruiser Scene in the second commercial. On the second time, it appears to be a Chaos Emerald. AND I'm thinking that this has a Play with Super Sonic. Or it could be a brand new Item totally (It's very apparent 5 seconds in). With the Dragoon in play, I wouldn't be surprised to see the chaos Emeralds being brought into play.

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Old Jan 5, 2008, 11:23 PM Local time: Jan 5, 2008, 08:23 PM #2069 of 2408
For the Chaos Emerald. I think it has to do with Sonic's Final Smash attack. Something like this?



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Old Jan 6, 2008, 01:42 PM #2070 of 2408
Thank you, so much better quality. The ones on youtube... it was like someone filmed it with camera or something

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Old Jan 6, 2008, 07:36 PM #2071 of 2408
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Hold on here. I think in the second one there may just be a confirmation of a BRAND NEW ITEM!!! If you look to the left of the Lylat Cruiser Scene in the second commercial. On the second time, it appears to be a Chaos Emerald. AND I'm thinking that this has a Play with Super Sonic. Or it could be a brand new Item totally (It's very apparent 5 seconds in). With the Dragoon in play, I wouldn't be surprised to see the chaos Emeralds being brought into play.
The Chaos Emeralds would rock if everyone could use them. SuperSnake with spikey Goku hair flying around shooting RPGs out of his fingers. Tell me that wouldn't be awesome. Bonus points for the Sonic invincibility theme playing while it all happens.

Let's hope we get something cool for the update. We still gotta last two weeks from this Thursdays, which will go down in history as Needlessly Huge Spoiler Day 2008.

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Old Jan 6, 2008, 09:05 PM Local time: Jan 6, 2008, 07:05 PM #2072 of 2408
Well, time to nitpick through the commercials and see what kind of stuff I can find. Disclaimer: some or most of this probably has been mentioned elsewhere:

First Commercial:
- When Princess Peach uses her Peach Bomber Attack, instead of an explosion, there will be Rose Petals that appear.
- Lightbeam Sword glows Blue and is Straight (Not Curved) when Idle (That is, when someone isn't attacking)
- On Pit's Stage, Giga Bowser has the ability to smash the floating platforms.
- The WarioWare Stage shows Japanese... Hiranaga (?) Text when the stage changes.
- Giant Metroid is an Item.
- At the Pokemon Stage where Groudon Appears, the player controlling Squirtle has the name "zenigame".
This is the only time in the commercial that a name different from the default appears. Its significance is unknown.
- Price for the game is 6,800 Yen.

Second Commercial:
- Bananas are an Item.
- As with Melee, the Pokemon Gym Stage shows a video of the character on
a screen in the background.
- Tiny Bowser confirms the Mushroom Item is returning.
- Yoshi's Classic Stage from the N64 Smash Bros is returning.
- Kirby's Link Hat uses Link's Bow power.

Third Commercial:
- Oddly, it shows all three of the Trainer's pokemon on the stage at the same time, following Yoshi. This probably was done specifically for the commercial, unless the ability to have all three of them on the stage at once is possible. While this is shown as true for the Final Smash, what they were doing right now seemed different.
- Ike is carrying a large Present, probably a variation on the Wooden Box Item.
- Diddy is shown lying on his side for several seconds. I'm not sure if this may be a taunt, or specifically made for the commercial, or something else.
- On the Pokemon Stage, an Snowflake Icon appears on the back of the stage (On the video screen) to indicate the 'winter' theme of the stage appearing.

Yeah, not much new I could find. As far as the Chaos emerald goes, I looked all over the second commercial but I couldn't find it.

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Old Jan 6, 2008, 09:20 PM Local time: Jan 7, 2008, 12:50 PM #2073 of 2408
- When Princess Peach uses a Smash Attack, there will be flower petals that appear for a brief moment.
That's not a smash attack, that's her Peach Bomber attack. The petals would be replacing the explosion that once erupted from her behind. I always thought that was a little weird.

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Old Jan 6, 2008, 09:22 PM Local time: Jan 6, 2008, 07:22 PM #2074 of 2408
That's not a smash attack, that's her Peach Bomber attack. The petals would be replacing the explosion that once erupted from her behind. I always thought that was a little weird.
Really? Well I guess I should correct my post then.

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Old Jan 6, 2008, 09:36 PM Local time: Jan 6, 2008, 09:36 PM #2075 of 2408
- The WarioWare Stage shows Japanese... Hiranaga (?) Text when the stage changes.
Well, it only makes sense as these commercials were aired in Japan. It reads "mereruna", though I couldn't tell you what it means since I don't know a lot of Japanese. I imagine it will be translated to something like "Stay Dry" (or whatever) since Nintendo of America has never left Japanese in localized games.

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- At the Pokemon Stage where Groudon Appears, the player controlling Squirtle has the name "zenigame".
This is the only time in the commercial that a name different from the default appears. Its significance is unknown.
"Zenigame" is what Squirtle is originally called in the Japanese versions of Pokémon games.

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- As with Melee, the Pokemon Gym Stage shows a video of the character on a screen in the background.
Don't you mean Pokémon Stadium? :P

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- Oddly, it shows all three of the Trainer's pokemon on the stage at the same time, following Yoshi. This probably was done specifically for the commercial, unless the ability to have all three of them on the stage at once is possible. While this is shown as true for the Final Smash, what they were doing right now seemed different.
You're thinking about this way too much. It's most likely just three people playing as the Pokémon Trainer, each with a different Pokémon out. The other person is playing as Yoshi.

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As far as the Chaos emerald goes, I looked all over the second commercial but I couldn't find it.
Yeah, I couldn't find it either. I tried pausing right at the start of where the Lylat Cruise was being shown in the second video. But either I wasn't fast enough or the guy that mentioned it was seeing things.

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