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[PS2] Final Fantasy XII
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Old Nov 3, 2006, 06:20 PM Local time: Nov 4, 2006, 09:20 AM #1801 of 4284
I've got some hints for people who are lacking money and need good items to loot from plentiful enimies.

About 8-12 hours into the game
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In The Nam-YanSea (the east) I think, which ever is the first part of it. Look for Rotten Tomatoes and steal from them, their loot will produce approx 400 gil per sell and you can generally find a fair few of them on the first few sections of the map


About 12-16
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In the Ozmone Planes look for the steel zebras, their loot will give you a about 400 and there is one section where you can find a whole lot of them, I think it's kinda in the middle on the west side


About 14-20
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In the Golmore Forest, attack the first set of wolves. They drop Coylent Pearls or something, which give you about 400 a sell, and there are a LOT of them so it's easy to get some money.


I spent a while getting money and levelling up to get all my characrters top of the range stuff and I've found it pretty easy for all enimies besides some bosses which I think about technicks

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 06:40 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 04:40 PM #1802 of 4284
Too bad I opened up certain treasure chests in the beginning of the game. Of course I didn't know better without the guide book with me at that time.

Does spoil certain treasures and locations where you shouldn't open them:
There are certain treasures (4 of them) that you shouldn't open since if they are kept intact, you can get the Zodiac Spear, which according to the guide book, is the most powerful weapon. Looks like I messed that one up.

3 of the 4 locations.

The teasure chest outside of Dalan's house

The treasure chest in the downstairs of the palace where the Bangaa helps you sneak upstairs

The treasure chest in the treasury room where you regain your weapons after being imprisoned.

The fourth I still have to read up on.


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Old Nov 3, 2006, 06:42 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 05:42 PM #1803 of 4284
Picked up my pre-order on Wednesday, along with the LE guide (cover came out to be Basch, was hoping for a Fran, Ashe or Penelo though), and finally got around to playing it last night.



Only played about 2 hours or so in the game, and liking it so far. Though the camera controls are really bugging me, they're the inverse of what I usually like to set them to be, options to switch the controls would have been nice (would it really have been that hard to add?). The battle system is interesting, I like how you can run around and try to avoid the enemies' attacks (well, try to reduce amount received), though the camera once again makes it a little frustrating (for me anyway). Not really liking the License system though, seems like a pain in the ass. So pretty much you have to get a license to use a equip or use a specific spell, and then you have to buy it? Purchasing the equip makes sense, but magic? That's just unusual, same thing with having to purchase a license to equip certain weapons/gear.

Moving on, the voice acting is outstanding! The different accents really adds to the game's universe/atmosphere. However, the audio quality is kinda bugging me, when the VA's speak it's like you can hear actually hear the static from the recording. Similar to the problem I had with RE4, it's only really noticeable for the ingame cut scenes. The scenes that I really noticed it were the ones with Vaan and Penelo, just before and after Vanye's CG intro (the consul ceremony thing). Did anyone notice this? Does it improve or become less apparent as you progress?

And another thing:
Spoiler:
Why exactly did Basch kill Reks? Was it to remove any witnesses? Or was it to protect Reks? As it seemed kinda pointless considering he was found shortly afterwards.


BTW, anyone noticed that Vaan wanting to become a Sky Pirate is somewhat similar to the storyline of Tetsuro wanting to become a Space Pirate in Galaxy Express 999? Seems like, to me, that they had a little inspiration from Leiji Matsumoto's work. I'm guessing Balfier would kind of be like Captain Harlock.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 07:24 PM #1804 of 4284
I had the misfortune of opening up every treasure chest (or pot, 'cause that's what they look like) I found too, thus ruining my chances of getting the secret item.

I got past the place I was stuck in last time (Twas at the Leviathan) I posted. Whoo! I just ran around
Spoiler:
tripping alarms and stealing potions from the soldiers and eventually earning enough LP to get a Quickening for Vaan, Fran and Balthier. I was able to defeat Judge Ghis in one blow :


Now I am at the Westerland(sp?) and that place is tough, so I'm levelling up now in the desert. I'm keeping the entire party balanced. They're all at level 11.

The Hunts are getting to be a lot tougher now. The first few were easy, but the Nidhogg and the Wraith are hard.

I'm probably the only one who doesn't see any problem with the audio quality.

I'm still very pleased with the voice acting. I personally think Balthier and Vayne give the best performances.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 08:22 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 06:22 PM #1805 of 4284
Hantei, DAMN YOU I wanted the Basch cover! I got the faggot Vaan, I don't really like that guy. You'll find out about Basch and Reks later on, soon enough.



I'm guessing by that image that the artbook is detachable, as well as the rip out poster at the end of the book?

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:02 PM Local time: Nov 4, 2006, 11:02 AM #1806 of 4284
Originally Posted by Spatula
Okay, I'll just continue on and not opt for the hunt then. My guys are about level 12. I just want to clean that place up and explore 100% of the map, as well as keep sealing bone fragments, since they're worth quite a lot when I sell it back.

Also, what is that thing from the Bazaar for 18,000 gil? Whatever it is, that's a lot of cash.
I think you must be talking about the Griomoire's (sp?) pack. Like what seanne said, they're basically items that enable you to get superior loots from certain enemies. I heard one of them (cost 22000/25000G) will really come in handy when you're against some skeletons in Golmore jungle (might be wrong on the location). Also, there'll be several events that'll trigger the appearance of these items at Bazaar.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:06 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 09:06 PM #1807 of 4284
Originally Posted by Spatula
Hantei, DAMN YOU I wanted the Basch cover! I got the faggot Vaan, I don't really like that guy. You'll find out about Basch and Reks later on, soon enough.



I'm guessing by that image that the artbook is detachable, as well as the rip out poster at the end of the book?
Spats, the art book fits into one sleeve, and the guide into the other. The sleeve is a picture of the judges marching. Pretty fucking badass. Also, the poster tears out of the end of the guide.

I wound up with Penelo for a guide. At first I was pretty "meh." But she's actually cute, and I like the cover the more I look at it.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:09 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 05:09 PM #1808 of 4284
I forget how many hours I'm up to now between exploring, doing hunts, and levelling up, but I just got out of the Barheim Passage and am heading to the aerodome in Rabanastre to leave for the next part. So far I'm having fun, the voices are pretty cool. Balthier's voice is more...strong than I imagined but I've grown to love it (and Fran's accent is great, really perfect for her). Vaan's voice was a nice surprise (not whiny or whatever like I would've expected to come out of him from looks alone) but the actor seems to really keep his lines brief and quick. Like he just ...says them. Probably the only emotion I've heard so far is when we saw Basch for the first time since the opening.

Anyway, I was trying to hunt a Cluckatrice but got my ass handed to me when I found it so I think I'll get back to killing it and its little babies a bit later when I've levelled up more... It was already hard enough trying to beat the Wraith. Everyone had Doom cast on them but I had nothing to get rid of it. I was lucky enough to beat the Wraith, but I forgot that unlike other games...the infliction won't go away once the battle is over. So everyone still had Doom cast on them and everyone was on, like, count 2. So I hightailed it for the exit to Lowtown and JUST reached it by the time everyone hit 0, but was already on my way out and safe.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:10 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 08:10 PM #1809 of 4284
Thanks, yeah I wasn't too sure how to open up the guide, lest I accidentally rip off the art book if I didn't know how to slide it out properly, but good to know. I also wouldn't have mind a Penelo cover. Just anyone, and I mean anyone, besides Vaan, which as luck would have it, I got stuck with =/.

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and Fran's accent is great, really perfect for her
I personally don't like it. It's not bad nor annoying, but I just don't think it fits her. But then again some others think it works for them. I think Marquis "Irish" voice is a bit overdone. When he spoke about the history of Dalmasca and the Archadian Empire, I thought it was a relatively elderly man speaking, but he's more in his fourties to fifties, but not elderly.

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Anyway, I was trying to hunt a Cluckatrice but got my ass handed to me
If you're in the Estersand, there's a rare encounter with Cluckertrice which has protect casted on him - you'll see the blue hexagon by the health bar of the enemy, and that's the one (use Libra to confirm it's called the Nehkbet, according to my guidebook). He has a very high HP and strong attack. I recommend you take him out (cast protect on yourself and work up some good cure gambits) when Basch is a guest character. This way you have 4 characters instead of the normal three. He's tough, but beatable.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:20 PM #1810 of 4284
Originally Posted by Spatula
I think Marquis "Irish" voice is a bit overdone. When he spoke about the history of Dalmasca and the Archadian Empire, I thought it was a relatively elderly man speaking, but he's more in his fourties to fifties, but not elderly.
Marquis Ondore has a pseudo-Indian accent, not Irish.

Bhujerba is supposed to be Middle-Eastern, as far as I can tell.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:27 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 08:27 PM #1811 of 4284
East Indian, I'm guessing? Weird, I don't quite hear Indian, actually. But that's quite alright, I like his voice now. It's alright for me to listen.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:32 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 09:32 PM #1812 of 4284
Here's one for you bunch of humps:

When you're first dodging out into the sands to kill that tomato thing, in the main square before you hit the east gate, there is a Bangaa that asks you to give a package to his friend outside. What the hell does this accomplish? Dudes didn't give me shit.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:42 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 05:42 PM #1813 of 4284
Originally Posted by Spatula
If you're in the Estersand, there's a rare encounter with Cluckertrice which has protect casted on him - you'll see the blue hexagon by the health bar of the enemy, and that's the one (use Libra to confirm it's called the Nehkbet, according to my guidebook). He has a very high HP and strong attack. I recommend you take him out (cast protect on yourself and work up some good cure gambits) when Basch is a guest character. This way you have 4 characters instead of the normal three. He's tough, but beatable.
I'm hunting the Cluckatrice in the Giza Plains North Bank right now, one of the elite marks given out by Montblanc. This Cluckatrice has a lot of HP, and even it's chicks are hard to dispose of. And when they all gang up on one character...oy. I don't have Basch as a guest anymore though I was sad when I learned I could only have three in my party. If I can't beat it just by levelling up, then I'll probably just resort to chaining Quickenings repeatedly....now that I finally have them worked out.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:42 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 08:42 PM #1814 of 4284
Same, did the guide say anything? I forgot about that until now, and haven't checked yet. Perhaps it's something for a recurring item later. Now that you mention it, I must check ^__^.

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I'm hunting the Cluckatrice in the Giza Plains North Bank right now, one of the elite marks given out by Montblanc.
Oh shit talk about wrong monsters! You seem pretty far, I've only done 2 hunts (pretty sad), and am up to rescue

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Amalia/Ashe. Talk about Star Wars ^__^


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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:45 PM Local time: Nov 4, 2006, 01:45 PM #1815 of 4284
Originally Posted by Denicalis
Here's one for you bunch of humps:

When you're first dodging out into the sands to kill that tomato thing, in the main square before you hit the east gate, there is a Bangaa that asks you to give a package to his friend outside. What the hell does this accomplish? Dudes didn't give me shit.
Pretty sure he gave you a new bazaar option if it's the one I'm thinking of.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:47 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 08:47 PM #1816 of 4284
I know Gatsby, the contact for the 2nd mark, informed you about the 18,000 bazaar Griomoire's pack thing. Damn, now I know what I'm reading for a bed time story before night night.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 10:58 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 09:58 PM #1817 of 4284
I've only had a few hours to play, and I've spent them in the sands killing stuff. I'm just past the ceremony where Seymor, I mean, the Consul, gives his speech. But I'm on Lvl. 4 and I've killed 7 cockatrices. WATAP.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 11:07 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 09:07 PM #1818 of 4284
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Spats, the art book fits into one sleeve, and the guide into the other. The sleeve is a picture of the judges marching. Pretty fucking badass. Also, the poster tears out of the end of the guide.
Yup I just pulled out the art book and the guide book free from the sleeves. This is fucking quality stuff, and not bad for $26.00 (20% discount and $5 preorder discount), so I'm happy with this, besides getting Vaan for the cover.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 11:09 PM #1819 of 4284
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I'm just past the ceremony where Seymor, I mean, the Consul, gives his speech. But I'm on Lvl. 4 and I've killed 7 cockatrices. WATAP.
And I thought I was playing it slow. I just reached the sky city, which is an even nicer looking than Rabanastre (and feels just as big, even though it's a small town). Also, I don't see what the big deal is with that scene with Penelo.

Spoiler:
about the worst thing they do is threaten to pull out her tongue. Unless there's something else later.


Also, did that NPC Moogle just say

Spoiler:
Oh Noes?


I'm enjoying the sheer massiveness of this game. I hope I'm not even 1/4 done.

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Old Nov 3, 2006, 11:11 PM Local time: Nov 3, 2006, 09:11 PM #1820 of 4284
Yes, that NPC Moogle did say
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"OH NOES" in the sky city Aerodome, if I remember. Penelo getting her _____ pulled out would be a loss ;___;.



Spoil tagged, because SOLDIER COMMANDS FOR IT TO BE SO.

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Old Nov 4, 2006, 12:09 AM #1821 of 4284
There's a reason I spoiler tagged it, for the anal folk here (that includes me; I know it's NPC dialogue, but still). :/

As for real spoilers, I have a question.

Spoiler:
Basch mentions that Recks was meant to be a witness to his false deed, but how could Recks get the word out if he died? Unless they're implying that Recks didn't die on the spot, and instead lived long enough to get the word out (that would explain the room resembling a hospital in Vaan's dream).


If this actually gets explained later, then please refrain from answering.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Nov 4, 2006, 12:34 AM Local time: Nov 4, 2006, 12:34 AM #1822 of 4284
Does anyone know what all the limited edition guides look like collectively? I know I'll probably never look at the art book more than once, but having an aesthetically pleasing cover would be nice.

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Old Nov 4, 2006, 01:00 AM Local time: Nov 4, 2006, 12:00 AM #1823 of 4284
Originally Posted by Freelance Wolf
Edit: @soulsteelgray: Oh, I take it Bahamut is an airship then? I noticed that several airships are named after classic summons in the guide. Does it look as cool as the dragon himself? I didn't take a look at your spoilers.
Yeah, that's all my spoiler said.

I finally picked up the game and LE guide today. I had to go to a second GameStop to get the Balthier cover because the GameStop I had the CE reserved at only had three LE guides (Basch, Penelo, and Vaan). The guy looked at me funny and tried to tell me that no one can tell what cover they're getting because the guide is shrink wrapped so tightly. How I'd love to show him my Balthier guide. (I managed to get my discount at the second GameStop when I showed the cashier my receipt, so yay!)

I haven't gotten very far, though. I'm only about 2 and a half hours in and I'm considering waking up early tomorrow to play it. The pseudo-Gambits suck. I can't wait until I get the real ones to play around with.

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Old Nov 4, 2006, 02:09 AM #1824 of 4284
I'm at the Stilshrine of Miriam struggling with Mateus (the second Esper). It would be an easy enough battle were it not for her stupid ice elemental things that are immune to damage of any kind -_-

Now, my opinions of the game thus far. In one word: AMAZING! It's all I hoped it would be and more: fantastic dialogue, complex story, beautiful graphics, and, most of all, amazing voice actors. Marquis Ondore's voice is really the only one that bugs me...why the fudge does he sound Indo-British?

The battle system is wonderful. I played FFXI for probably three years so I fit right into FFXII's battles (since they are almost identical). I had trouble with the inverted camera at first, but I got used to it quickly. The sound quality of the voices in some of the cutscenes is a tad fuzzy on my craptastic TV in my room, but sounds great on our HDTV downstairs. I like the Liscense Board, I know, sorry lol. I've only done the tomatoe monster hunt, and I started the Thextra one...but got so wrapped up in the story that I just forgot about it for a while.

Hantei:
Spoiler:
Basche did not kill Reks, Gabranth (Bashe's twin brother who is a Judge when the real game starts) did. However, since they are twins, Basche was easily framed and was "sentenced to death" but never died. He is locked in a cage deep underground when the party meets for the first time.


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Old Nov 4, 2006, 06:30 AM Local time: Nov 4, 2006, 09:30 PM #1825 of 4284
Originally Posted by Vash
I'm at the Stilshrine of Miriam struggling with Mateus (the second Esper). It would be an easy enough battle were it not for her stupid ice elemental things that are immune to damage of any kind -_-
If you are finding it REALLY difficult, I haven't done it yet but
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You can buy shields at Mt Ominace that halve all ice damage So I would assume that would work


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