The Immigration Protests

So yes you are free to write anything anyway you want but don’t be surprised when people assume you are retarded for doing so.

Apparently you don't know what racism is because you still advocate for communism and special rights (ie the inferiourity of your own race). Good luck with being inferior. Racist.

Do you know who Thomas Alva Edison was? Maybe you should read up on him. He was a self taught man that did extremely well in this life. So don’t give me that bullshit about, “blah blah blah my family is poor blah blah blah I’m a piece of shit so you have to give me money”, because I don’t buy it. I’m from an extremely poor family and I am doing just fine. All you are doing is excusing and justifying their illegal actions.

So the better question is not why shouldn’t they be allowed to come here, it should be why should they be able to come here and break our laws at a cost to people who actually have a right to be here?

Oh and by the way, I do have the courage to defend my nation. Something I hightly doubt you have the testicular fortitude to do.

“Even better maybe u can get a job on the border and shoot some of my kin while they try to come work to support their families.” - you

This is what you don’t get, they have no fucking right to be here. They are Mexico’s problem, not ours.

FELIPE NO

How do i not know what rascisim is? Im not commy Im socialist. Yes i know who thomas edison Was. I dont agree with special rights only Equal - And your right i would never Defend Against someone who is not attacking me. Yea i bet your from a poor Family. Where did you grow up? MR american Elitist I hate anybody from the 3rd world because they werent born here - If u were born into a poor family i guess i can cee y u Drag this American thing to Death ITS THE ONLY THING U GOT. Im a human First, My American Nationality doesnt Sway the way i Think or the way i look at other people obviously yours does it Makes u better them. them. What SPICS Right. They are not Mexicos problem they are the worlds Problem dumb ass - A Person is a Person - Or am i wrong. There is a difference between letting people take advantage of your System and using A rather unequal share of wealth to Educate those who dont have all the oppourtunities we have here, U want to hear some sad stories go talk to some immigrants - U know who have to work from 6 years old - First grade education. And its not only Latin people look at the rest of the world. But hey maybe u are right Gumby. One thing i do think that is wrong is that the pope doesnt Advocate Birth Control - now that is one Major issue for Latin people in general, Especially Mexico.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

iGod, if you use proper spelling and grammar you'll come across much better in written debates. It takes no more effort, and it's a good habit. To do otherwise and *defend* the poor practice is asinine. Yes you can act poorly, but there is no reason to do so.

Gumby, aside from the ever popular 'You're a communist' sentiment, you might want to consider why you lump those who are poor and struggling with useless pieces of shit. If they try to better themselves (legally), they should be afforded the opportunity to do so. A much more constructive attitude than 'They don't have as much money, and are therefore bad people, at least compared to me.'

Jam it back in, in the dark.

NO, this is not a world problem; this is a Mexican problem because they are a sovereign nation. They created the problems they have there; they can deal with the consequences of them. America is not responsible for the corruption that Mexicans elect into power. “A person is a person” is like saying a cat is a cat, WTF is your point? So good for you Igod82, you can see that we are all people, I believe most 6 year olds can easily grasp this concept.

Yet there is one thing you can’t say, that these people have a right to be here. They don’t and you know it so stop justifying the action of criminals. It is like saying that, “murders shouldn’t be punished because they didn’t have a good life, and, and, and we need to make them feeeeeeeel better.”

PUG1911: Don’t get me wrong, I am marrying a nationalized citizen. I have no problem with people immigrating here; I do however have a problem with people just walking over the boarder because they think they have some right to do so.

As for the communist line, don’t take it to heart and the “pieces of shit” refers to the garbage that is filtering over the boarder because they feel they don’t have to go through the same process that everyone who nationalizes here legally has to. It is this attitude that America owes these illegal immigrants something is what pisses me off. We owe them nothing and they have no right to just break our laws because they don’t feel like following our laws of the land.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Originally Posted by Igod82

How do i not know what rascisim is? Im not commy Im socialist. Yes i know who thomas edison Was. I dont agree with special rights only Equal - And your right i would never Defend Against someone who is not attacking me. Yea i bet your from a poor Family. Where did you grow up? MR american Elitist I hate anybody from the 3rd world because they werent born here - If u were born into a poor family i guess i can cee y u Drag this American thing to Death ITS THE ONLY THING U GOT. Im a human First, My American Nationality doesnt Sway the way i Think or the way i look at other people obviously yours does it Makes u better them. them. What SPICS Right. They are not Mexicos problem they are the worlds Problem dumb ass - A Person is a Person - Or am i wrong. There is a difference between letting people take advantage of your System and using A rather unequal share of wealth to Educate those who dont have all the oppourtunities we have here, U want to hear some sad stories go talk to some immigrants - U know who have to work from 6 years old - First grade education. And its not only Latin people look at the rest of the world. But hey maybe u are right Gumby. One thing i do think that is wrong is that the pope doesnt Advocate Birth Control - now that is one Major issue for Latin people in general, Especially Mexico.

Ok, so working for a living and making alot of money is taking advantage of the system, but living in this country illegally and making use of the availablity of jobs, education and medical services isn't taking advantage of the system?

Your logic is horribly flawed.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

I want to see them start sending the police through the protestors demanding proof of citisenship or green cards. I know no one is goign to be willing to give that politicly suicidal order but it'd be really entertaining and if they aren't legally allowed to be here then they shouldn't be protesting part of a political process they have no right to have a say in.


And Igod82 really your posts are an even bigger clusterfuck than mine and are outright painfull to read through as is. Even if your points had merit no one is going to give you even a shred of credit as long as you type that way.


This should really be simple they have no right to be here and they have no right to have a say in any of this. And the only possible reason for not wanting a wall built on the border is wanting to continue to make it easy for people to come here illegally so it's jut condoning criminal activity. I'm not sure how this making it a felony thing is supposed to work though are they planning to jail them and then kick them which makes no sense or is it just blowing hot air?

Maybe they do need to change the way legal immigration works so as to make it a more reasonable process but that doesn't justify skipping it entirely. And when they do come here they need to make it a priority to learn at least enough english for basic comunication. I'm not going to go to germany and then get a job there hoping that the majority of people I'll deal with can speak english and yet that's exactly what they do. There are entire sections of the town I live in that you can't order a burger without knowing spanish and that's unnacceptable. They need to outright require all businesses deal only in english and I guarantee that when it's learn it or not function in society they'll figure it out pretty damn quick.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

CetteHamsterLa: They just need to declare English as our national language.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Do you know your own history? Why did people not establish a national language?

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I want to see them start sending the police through the protestors demanding proof of citisenship or green cards. I know no one is goign to be willing to give that politicly suicidal order but it'd be really entertaining and if they aren't legally allowed to be here then they shouldn't be protesting part of a political process they have no right to have a say in.

They are fucking human beings who live and help build this country from day to day. Don't be a fucking monster.

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I want to see them start sending the police through the protestors demanding proof of citisenship or green cards. I know no one is goign to be willing to give that politicly suicidal order but it'd be really entertaining and if they aren't legally allowed to be here then they shouldn't be protesting part of a political process they have no right to have a say in.

That's not even a coherent sentence.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Gumby

CetteHamsterLa: They just need to declare English as our national language.

As much as I hate to take the conservative asshole side on an issue I agree.

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Originally Posted by gukarma

Do you know your own history? Why did people not establish a national language?

To be honest I am fuzzy on why we didn't as we were still of primarily english stock as of the founding of the nation. I'd be honestly interested to learn why though.

Originally Posted by gukarma

They are fucking human beings who live and help build this country from day to day. Don't be a fucking monster.

Human beings who are flaunting their own criminal actions in the public political forum. If they didn't want the attention they shouldn't have gathered in mass screaming in spanish about something that's not theirs to comment on. If I'm I'm protesting the illegality of pot would they be monsters for taking drug sniffing dogs through the crowd?

And I've never claimed to be terribly coherent.

FELIPE NO

I think you should read up on your own history, on both of your concerns.

http://www.wikipedia.org/

That should be a good start. I think Styphon and other people who know American history would agree.

It's not that I believe there is no sense to your side, it is that you have none of it whatsoever.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Originally Posted by gukarma

I think you should read up on your own history, on both of your concerns.

http://www.wikipedia.org/

That should be a good start. I think Styphon and other people who know American history would agree.

It's not that I believe there is no sense to your side, it is that you have none of it whatsoever.

I'm well aware of our history overall just that minor point of it was something I'd never picked up along the way as it honestly never occurred to me to check before.

What that has to do with me being a monster for saying the laws should be enforced even on large obvious groups eludes me perhaps you can explain? And you claiming someone has no sense has a rather hollow ring to it.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Yea your right i dont take Much consideration for typing. Anyways ill try harder.
Gumby i think you are an AMERICAN Fundamentalist and thats that. I do not in anyway say that people crossing the border illegal should not be punished. I just think there should be a way for people to come here and work, and most of all i dont think they are scum for coming here. I think you are scum for hating people just for coming across your sacred border.

Cloud Nine - I do not understand what your response was. I never said working for money was taking advantage of the system. I stated that people are not entitled to huge sums of money, while others suffer. If you dont agree fine, but imagine being in one of those countries, Imagine being one of Gumbys pieces of shit, then maybe you would cee it another way. Or maybe you wouldnt either way its only my opinion.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

America is not a place to go if you want to take from the rich and give it to the poor, that is the absolute most un-American thing you could do. If you want to be in a place where they do that sort of thing go somewhere else.

Again Igod82 I have already stated that I have no problem with legal immigrants however these illegal aliens are not immigranting here they are invading. I'd have to say you completely misunderstand my up in your face very direct method of getting my point across, I don't hate anyone. I'm just pissed that these people seem to think they have a right to cut in line of their country men by jumping the boarder. If they actually cared about America they wouldn't be chanting "Mexico" in our streets and openly saying that their illegal activity was ok because they are "entitled" to do that. In reality these people are only entitled to be thrown out.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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If they actually cared about America they wouldn't be chanting "Mexico" in our streets and openly saying that their illegal activity was ok because they are "entitled" to do that.

Yes, we've heard this point TEN times.

However, many of these people have been here for a long time, and they are integral to our society.

Also, Americans are all about staying true to their heritage.

Ad nauseam.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by Igod82

Gumby i think you are an AMERICAN Fundamentalist and thats that.

Whats wrong with that? He's an American.

Originally Posted by Igod82

I do not in anyway say that people crossing the border illegal should not be punished.

Thats complete idiocy. If you do something wrong, you should be punished. Didn't your parents raise you like that? People knowingly cross our borders knowing its wrong and are NOT punished. This is a problem. They have no right to come here and abuse our health care system for free. How many people come to this country illegally to get some expensive, elaborate surgery at the expense of the tax payers? MANY. Our system is overrun with people specificly trying to get around being caught.

And how many of your illegal immigrants pay taxes? NONE.

See, saying your opinion doesn't mean fuck from shit from damn. If you were in court and were asked "Did you kill this man?" and you said "But he was doing something I disagree with" your ass would be tossed in jail immedeately. Your opinions do not stack up against facts - and the fact is this is a country of law.

Originally Posted by Igod82

I just think there should be a way for people to come here and work, and most of all i dont think they are scum for coming here.

I have no qualms with foreigners coming to our country to work. The problem is these people are ILLEGAL. Do you not understand that word? Illegal means illegal! You can't say "Well, I want them to work here" because they're illegal. You can't say "Well this is how I feel" because they're illegal. You can't say "I just think..." because they're illegal. You can't have any defense for Illegal Immigrants because they're illegal. You can't justify breaking the law in this respect.

Originally Posted by Igod82

I think you are scum for hating people just for coming across your sacred border.

And I think you're scum for trying to piss on my Irish heritage but you don't see me waving flags or marching in Dallas about it. Why the fuck do these people drive around with "Life Is Better In Puerto Viarda" bumper stickers on their cars? If life is so good there, GO THE FUCK BACK.

Your opinion does not mean shit on the internet and even less in the real world. I wonder how much time you really give yourself to think before you post because theres not a hint of an inkling of a thought of an idea of logic in anything you say.

I was speaking idiomatically.

U know what dude ill give u that. I agree they should not be taunting people that is dumb, and ignorant. Your right, they should not be cutting in line there should be a good way for people to come here and work and hopefully someone finds the awnser. I know one thing i dont have it. I dont not however believe that people here already should be made felons, they should be regestered and allowed to work. I also dont believe they should be up protesting if they are here illegally they should be thankfull they havent been sent back. And not all those people are illegal, alot of immagrants from Central America have work visas.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by Igod82

I dont not however believe that people here already should be made felons

But they are felons because they won't take the time to register.

FELIPE NO

That is funny that it takes an internet ass raping from you LeHah to get any sense into this guy :/

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Lehah your Read what i wrote about the illegal thing dumb ass. I said i DID NOT SAY they shouldnt be punished. And i never pissed on your Irish heritage ASS. Im part Irish y would i do that. U pissed on me by saying in a arogant manner, Im more mixed than you. I like the Irish culture its interesting especially the music, the fact that u say this makes me think you just want to HATE. I said sorry for the way i said it the first time, i suppose scince im a mutt nigger spic my apology doent count right. And no my Parents didnt really raise me right dick, they didnt really raise me at all, I guess thats what happens when a wetback takes advantage of a little white girl huh, people like me dont get proper training in life. So maybe your right we should all just be wiped out so people like you can have the earth to yourselves.

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They are not Felons yet.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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And how many of your illegal immigrants pay taxes? NONE.

Actually, to correct you, a court ruling from the 1980s, which put the burden to control illegal immigration on the employers says that employers can only hire people with Social Security cards. So, what the great majority of illegals do (probably all of them) is they work with a fake Social Security card (these go for $50-$100 in MA, I've heard they go for much less in Texas and California).

So, in fact, illegals may be overpaying their taxes.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

Right now they have only committed a misdemeanor.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Very True.

You guys really hate me dont ya.

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

What is with the pity party hate bullshit?

I was speaking idiomatically.

HAHAHA nothin man im sensitive.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Originally Posted by gukarma

So, in fact, illegals may be overpaying their taxes.

I think thats an unfair assumption because for all we know, when an employer files his taxes with someone's fake SS card - whos to say it even gets to the government properly? If its a fake identification, how can you prove that the government received ANY payment at all?

Originally Posted by Igod82

They are not Felons yet.

Asinine. The moment they jump our borders they're felons. End of story.

FELIPE NO