[PS2] Wild Arms: Vth Vanguard

Thank you! i finally got him! now i still have

Spoiler:

Elvis an FEREYDOON

left

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Spoiler:

Hint for the duel fights:

USE GEMS (and the Sea Medium).

That is all

FELIPE NO

Spoiler:

I did it, thanks for the tip.. I did use the sea medium.. didnt use any gems.. Doom Bringer was doing an ok job. I only healed like 3 times. Elvis is the only one left! Any tips for him? I hate carol.. lol

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Spoiler:

Sea Medium is the worst idea i've ever heard. Power Medium+those badges i told you and i killed Elvis in 3 turns. Heavy Crush > Hi-Blast or Gems. there's ALWAYS a weakness panel for them in the solo fights.

Honestly I did Perspherone > Ferydoon > Elvis > Kartekiya, that's pretty much easiest to hardest. Hell, Kartekiya was the only one that actually ended up attacking me.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Spoiler:

yay, finally! all towers done.. Tower O time. Is the black market open yet, or do i have to do O first?

How ya doing, buddy?

Spoiler:

It's open, just be sure to get the black pass of course. Do you have the wolf fang or whatever it was called from Jet?

Most amazing jew boots

yeah, but i dont think i want to sacrifice levels right now, should get

Spoiler:

Tower O

done first.

considering the first boss w/o dean beat me down. lol

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Spoiler:

remember my leveling trick, you don't even have to touch dean or your main 2 character's levels. I first got dean to 100 then those two, THEN started getting badges. I didn't do Tower 0 until everyone was 100 and had a sherrif star.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Originally Posted by Ashton

Spoiler:

Sea Medium is the worst idea i've ever heard. Power Medium+those badges i told you and i killed Elvis in 3 turns. Heavy Crush > Hi-Blast or Gems. there's ALWAYS a weakness panel for them in the solo fights.

Spoiler:

Worst idea? While it's a longer strategy, it's also much much safer since you pretty much can't lose.

Also, it's a strategy you can use regardless of what badges you have, so for people who don't want to spend time getting the right badges or overlevelling, it works. I was only level 45-55 without Sheriff Stars (except one on Dean but that doesn't count for duels)/Violators/Dual Casts and still won easily.

Originally Posted by rpgcrazied

yeah, but i dont think i want to sacrifice levels right now, should get

Spoiler:

Tower O

done first.

considering the first boss w/o dean beat me down. lol

Nothing in that tower is harder than that first boss, anyways. You shouldn't need to abuse the Black Market yet. In fact, save that for the optional stuff if you want at least some challenge for the rest of the main game.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

But.. but..

Spoiler:

There IS no main game left, that's the last dungeon.

How can you not lose thanks to the sea medium? While the first 3 busses never hit me and i got them down in 3 shots, Kartekiya actually attacked and i'd be dead several times over without the extra hp the Sword medium gives you. The high HP, along with a Red Pepper for extra hp regen, a laurel crown to double hp regen, and I was pretty fine. I never mentioned using sherrif stars for the towers, that's crazy hard to do.

As an alternative to using dean in that first fight, give avril a power medium, and a sea/mountain for the other two.

Most amazing jew boots

Originally Posted by Ashton

But.. but..

Spoiler:

There IS no main game left, that's the last dungeon.

How can you not lose thanks to the sea medium? While the first 3 busses never hit me and i got them down in 3 shots, Kartekiya actually attacked and i'd be dead several times over without the extra hp the Sword medium gives you. The high HP, along with a Red Pepper for extra hp regen, a laurel crown to double hp regen, and I was pretty fine. I never mentioned using sherrif stars for the towers, that's crazy hard to do.

As an alternative to using dean in that first fight, give avril a power medium, and a sea/mountain for the other two.

Spoiler:

I meant go in and fight the final boss, then reload an earlier save to do optional stuff. If you do it the other way around, the final boss won't be any fun at all. I guess you have to go through the dungeon an extra time to get a clear save with optional stuff done, but I thought it was worth it.

The Sea medium was the one with healing, wasn't it? With that, you can stay on a Leypoint and heal forever, using gems as often as possible (which is pretty often).

Kartikeya's attack shouldn't even do 3000 damage, while your HP should be over 4000 by then (unless you use GC points), so there's no overkill here. You also can step out of the way of his Lock-On Death attack most of the time, so he may not even get off that move. I used the Sea Medium strategy and found the battle pretty easy, so I know it works. I never said it was the best strategy, just that it works.

I was just noticing in an earlier post you mentioned Sheriff Stars, but re-reading it, I realize you said AFTER the towers, so I apologize. You do mention levelling to 70 which is quite overkill. I went into the first one at 45 or so and just waltzed through them in order (Kartikeya's was last, so I was around 55 or so by then). Heck, I barely hit 70 by the end of the game.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?

Spoiler:

Oh, well I walked out of the towers at 70(dean at 78).

How could you get your hp over 4000 with a sea medium, at level 50ish when at 100 a person with a sea medium has 5400 hp at best? I could barely break the required 5000 to survive.. Either Fery's or Kartekia's special attack, which did 5000 damage. I couldn't even have that much on dean, so it ended up having to trap him in the corner and revive him every time he died. And since he's the only one that did any reasonable damage (Finest Arts was like, 7 or 8k back then)

Jam it back in, in the dark.

Originally Posted by Ashton

Spoiler:

Oh, well I walked out of the towers at 70(dean at 78).

How could you get your hp over 4000 with a sea medium, at level 50ish when at 100 a person with a sea medium has 5400 hp at best? I could barely break the required 5000 to survive.. Either Fery's or Kartekia's special attack, which did 5000 damage. I couldn't even have that much on dean, so it ended up having to trap him in the corner and revive him every time he died. And since he's the only one that did any reasonable damage (Finest Arts was like, 7 or 8k back then)

Spoiler:

At level 55 or so? 4000 HP's about where you'd be at. Even if you're not, some Silver/Golden Suns will fix that. You still have more than 3000 so Kartikeya's duel fight won't overkill you.

For Fereydoon's 5000 damage attack... you're not supposed to survive it. That's why you have revival. But that's not a duel anyways. The normal fights take different strategies.

And for some reason my Finest Arts was doing 11k there. Not sure what I was doing differently. I know I had a Beserker Badge but I don't remember if I had a Cat's Paw by then.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I beat the game at 67hours.. thats only a few puzzle boxes, an a couple pillar bosses done didnt touch the optional dungeons.. or any other bosses.

Im gonna replay for 100% now

How ya doing, buddy?

No comment on the ending or how things are wrapped up? I hope it's still satisfying enough, or that the second and third playthroughs provide alternate endings with this I read about different versions of the last boss or something.

Right now I just finished Harmonde, so I guess I'm still not close to the end of the game, even going by the soundtracks with song for that town not being towards the end. As for this point, I'll have to say that everyone seems to have had a destined rival battle, and the game loves to use the mechanic of "fights you're meant to lose." Still looking for the name of the song that plays in Mithysmere

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

nah, ill let you experince it.. i will say the later bosses get hard.. well they did for me.. specially the tower bosses.

I was speaking idiomatically.

Yeah, the game seems to fly pretty fast until you get near the end, at which point it definitely becomes a much longer game than you're expecting to be. I was happy, though, I really didn't want it to end in under 30 hours like IV did.

The storyline wasn't bad but I admit the way it was handled was pretty corny. Corny doesn't have to mean "bad" though, just "corny". I liked it well enough and the cast of characters (aside from Carol...) were good enough for me. Greg especially. All in all, this comes close to Persona 3 for me for best RPG of the year so far. Plenty of extra shit to do and a reasonably long main quest. Two important things I look for in my RPGs.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

playing the game again with all your armors, and arm clips makes the game easier.. lol, im 2 shotting these early bosses.

FELIPE NO

I regret playing this game before Wild Arms 4. Talking to people in it gets old very, very fast. I don't think i'll play it at all

Now to find Grandia 3...

How ya doing, buddy?

well, its only 25hours long. lol. Its not that bad of a game. ya, its more corny.. but its still a fun time.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

I had just noticed that the EX File logs the lowest level you beat the game at and the fastest time too. I hate when games do that, because then I feel compelled to challenge them. I could just rush right through though, I managed to get everything the first time in about 80 hours. Nine Lives costume is adorable. Love the way they play Knightblazer's theme for normal battles when you wear it. Eheh.

There's nowhere I can't reach.

I want that costume ;/ but getting all the freaking chests is a bitch, specially the world map ones.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

Story-wise, can you play this game without having played the other 4, or would it make much of a difference?

I am a dolphin, do you want me on your body?

Originally Posted by speculative

Story-wise, can you play this game without having played the other 4?

Indeed.

I was speaking idiomatically.

All you'll miss out on this game is the meaning behind the extra costumes and the cameos. They don't outright name the cameos their actual names anyway, and you can enjoy the costumes when you get them just cause they look neat and have good stat boosts.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?