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Old Jul 13, 2008, 11:05 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2008, 03:05 PM #126 of 210
I have a girl who is way too young interested in me right now. It's actually rather shitty because she seems mature, but I've made that mistake before thinking someone was "mature for their age" and it turns out they really weren't. (I guess all that really means is they aren't idiots, which isn't really good enough.)
When I first met my current girlfriend, I thought she was mature for her age, but I'm starting to wonder about this. (I'm 18, she's 15 and we've been "together" for over a year, but things haven't been great lately as a result. Now that I've finished high school I feel like I've "moved on", but she's not in the same zone as me. To further compound issues, her dad is an asshat and she refuses to stand up to him. (Another story for another thread, probably)

I don't think I'll date quite this young again. As for older, I'd potentially date up to about 23-24.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Jul 13, 2008, 11:24 PM Local time: Jul 13, 2008, 10:24 PM 1 #127 of 210
So... you're basically dating a child, her dad doesn't like it, and you think the problem is... his?

That's balls.

Everybody, this dude's got balls. HEFTY ones.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 12:05 AM Local time: Jul 13, 2008, 10:05 PM #128 of 210
I'll say, he bumped a thread that got killed by boring fucking squares in the first place.

GARGANTUAN BALLS.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 01:29 AM #129 of 210
So... you're basically dating a child, her dad doesn't like it, and you think the problem is... his?

That's balls.

Everybody, this dude's got balls. HEFTY ones.
Nobody objected when I hit on a fourteen year old.

Oh, but I was in Canada then, wasn't I?

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 02:34 AM Local time: Jul 14, 2008, 01:34 AM #130 of 210
Nobody objected when I hit on a fourteen year old.

Oh, but I was in Canada then, wasn't I?
Age of consent, motherfucker.

Also, I'm not objecting to his fucking a 15 year old. I'm objecting to him fucking a 15 year old and expecting her dad to be cool with it.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 05:26 AM #131 of 210
Nobody objected when I hit on a fourteen year old. Oh, but I was in Canada then, wasn't I?
Yes, well, this is the kind of pseudo-edgy crap we've come to expect from you. Its like seeing the same episode of Loonatics Unleashed over and over and over and over.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 06:29 AM #132 of 210
Alright chief, I'll bite. It was an inside joke, though I'll admit a poor one. Hell, calling it pseudo-edgy is probably giving it too much credit. So look at that, you're right! I hope you didn't make a mess when you read that.

But I gotta ask... Ever been to central Canada, LeHah? You ought to check it out, you might even be able to find a girl to put her lips on that tiny dick this tough-guy shtick is undoubtedly covering up.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 08:25 AM #133 of 210
But I gotta ask... Ever been to central Canada, LeHah? You ought to check it out, you might even be able to find a girl to put her lips on that tiny dick this tough-guy shtick is undoubtedly covering up.
It doesn't take much to point out you were in Canada for that very reason? See, with no effort, I can be internet clever like you.

And again, this is typical crap from you. I mean, I come off as a tough guy on the internet because I talk that game in real life too. You can ask anyone we've both met. On the other hand, you come off as a third-rate impersonator of Bill Murray in Where The Buffalo Roam. Maybe its life experience or being a little older but anyone worth two-bits can see your act isn't even a good one, let alone an honest one.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 09:20 AM Local time: Jul 14, 2008, 06:20 AM 7 #134 of 210
I'm not siding with Frank, because I think you're both making idiotic arguments, but you really need to stop insisting that you're the very same person in real life as you project on these forums, LeHah. First of all, that doesn't justify a thing. Second, do you honestly expect any of us to believe that this guy freely pontificates his condescending bullshit to a soul while commanding any sort of respect?



You both look silly putting on this act. It impresses no one, makes for a less agreeable place for the rest of us, and, most of all, is just plain childish. We have a perfectly ripe subject for brazen, unrestrained ridicule right here in this very thread and you're ruining it with your prissy little slap-fight. It's enough already.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 09:31 AM 1 #135 of 210
So, the guy who claims I'm getting in a slap fight is the guy who's posting a picture of me about sixty seconds after I woke up in the morning. Thats like punching someone to prove how non-violent you are.

Further, why is it that you have a problem with me poking that guy in the eye - but everyone agrees to gangbang on him in chat, with exactly the same things I brought up here? You can't have it both ways, kiddo.

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Second, do you honestly expect any of us to believe that this guy freely pontificates his condescending bullshit to a soul while commanding any sort of respect?
I'll half-agree with this. Frank is something of a black/white arguement. There ARE people who handjob this guy's ego, though. They shouldn't, you don't feed the animals and you don't enable the stupid - but people do it anyway, no matter who tells them what.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 09:52 AM Local time: Jul 14, 2008, 06:52 AM #136 of 210
Point one: It was a last ditch attempt to deflate your ego. No go.

Point two: I am not chat.

Point three: Always obey the rule of threes.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 09:57 AM #137 of 210
I was going to type something long and expository but decided it was in everyone's best interest if I didn't. So heres a picture of Anna Paquin's fat ass.



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Old Jul 14, 2008, 12:12 PM #138 of 210
I'm so disappointed by the diffusion LeHah offered for this stupid argument. SADFACE.

I was going to jump all over that Fireman guy until I read what Deni said, and I got upset because he beat me to the punch. AS USUAL.

But yea, "her dad was upset with it" is a hilarious argument. I wonder WHY he'd be upset! And damn that girl for not standing up to her father!

Can I also comment on how great it is that he's "moved on" now that's he's graduated high school? Like once you exit high school and turn 18, you're suddenly a LOT MORE MATURE. God, fuck those 15 year old babies. They're so yesterday once you graduate.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 01:25 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2008, 11:25 AM #139 of 210
Well, to be fair, being a college guy going out with a highschooler is a bit more of a social stigma than being a senior going out with a freshman in high school.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 02:23 PM 1 #140 of 210
I'm so disappointed by the diffusion LeHah offered for this stupid argument. SADFACE.
Why are you disappointed I posted a picture of a woman's fat ass?

Well, to be fair, being a college guy going out with a highschooler is a bit more of a social stigma than being a senior going out with a freshman in high school.
I'm not entirely sure I agree with this. While, yeah, the age thing is a huge gap due to social circles - but I do know we heckled the shit out of a friend for dating a Freshman our senior year in high school. (Yes, okay, so she looked like a dog. Thats not the point.)

That is to say - college buddies would high five you for picking up a 17 year old because she likes "older, more mature men" while your friends would snicker and jab you in the ribs for taking out a freshman while in high school.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 02:48 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2008, 12:48 PM #141 of 210
Maybe your college friends were considerably more creepy than mine.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 14, 2008, 03:11 PM 1 #142 of 210
My friends were too busy screaming about Walter Truett Anderson while drunk to care about picking up the prom queen.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 04:51 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2008, 02:51 PM 1 #143 of 210
I would have to second that. Although graduating high school doesn't turn anyone into the mature adult they want to be, there is - socially - a GIANT difference between being in high school and dating someone in high school and being in community college and dating a junior.

Oh, and actually, her dad REALLY COULD be a crazy prick. If he's just angry she's dating an 18 year old, it's KIND OF understandable. But really, eighteen and fifteen aren't that different. If he was twenty-seven, it'd be laughable that he is amazed at a father's reaction, but this couple was dating when they were both minors. It's not exactly bizarre.

Really, everyone, do you just LOOK for the worst possible scenario so you can boast about how TRULY worldly you are?

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 04:55 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2008, 03:55 PM #144 of 210
I would have to second that. Although graduating high school doesn't turn anyone into the mature adult they want to be, there is - socially - a GIANT difference between being in high school and dating someone in high school and being in community college and dating a junior.

Oh, and actually, her dad REALLY COULD be a crazy prick. If he's just angry she's dating an 18 year old, it's KIND OF understandable. But really, eighteen and fifteen aren't that different. If he was twenty-seven, it'd be laughable that he is amazed at a father's reaction, but this couple was dating when they were both minors. It's not exactly bizarre.

Really, everyone, do you just LOOK for the worst possible scenario so you can boast about how TRULY worldly you are?
If you think a father isn't going to be pissed because an 18 year old senior is fucking his 15 year old baby girl, you clearly haven't dated much, Hachi boy.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 05:09 PM Local time: Jul 15, 2008, 09:09 AM #145 of 210
I should set a few things straight here...
As much as I'd like to be, I'm not sleeping with this girl. She's not ready and I'm cool with that.
She hasn't actually told her parents that we're dating, for fear of her father's wrath. (He hits her and shit sometimes)
Her parents are "conservative Christians". =/

One one hand I wish she'd be honest about the nature of things and just tell them, on the other, I'm concerned for her safety (and perhaps my own) if they really do get pissy.
Either way, we've kept it from them this long (13 months) so at this point I guess it could go on indefinitely.

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 05:14 PM Local time: Jul 14, 2008, 03:14 PM #146 of 210
If you think a father isn't going to be pissed because an 18 year old senior is fucking his 15 year old baby girl, you clearly haven't dated much, Hachi boy.
My sister, at sixteen, is dating an eighteen year old, and my parents don't care too much.

I can see some parents being a little annoyed with the situation. But the kid (I think) isn't some drug addict and is (I assume) going to school. As a father, you get a little annoyed; you don't bring the Wrath of God down on him.

I always dated my age or older, for the record. *insert obnoxious smilies*

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Old Jul 14, 2008, 05:53 PM #147 of 210
I should set a few things straight here...
As much as I'd like to be, I'm not sleeping with this girl. She's not ready and I'm cool with that.
That's curious. Is it her ((fifteen year old)) personality you're interested in then?

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She hasn't actually told her parents that we're dating, for fear of her father's wrath. (He hits her and shit sometimes)
Her parents are "conservative Christians". =/

One one hand I wish she'd be honest about the nature of things and just tell them, on the other, I'm concerned for her safety (and perhaps my own) if they really do get pissy.
Ever consider that they may have valid reasons for their concern?

If I had been 15 dating an 18 year old, my family probably would have been a bit concerned as well. And my family isn't "conservative Christian" nor did they hit me.
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Either way, we've kept it from them this long (13 months) so at this point I guess it could go on indefinitely.
So you started dating her when she was 14. Just out of the gates.

Wow. I wonder how much you can enjoy a 14 year old when you're 17-18 and have no sexual intentions.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Jul 15, 2008, 04:59 AM Local time: Jul 15, 2008, 08:59 PM #148 of 210
Looks like you're trying to attack my character there and impose your own morals on me, Sass.

Sure, things aren't perfect (what relationship is?) but we're good together. I'm more than happy to give the relationship the time and patience that it deserves. We share a lot of interests and enjoy each others' company. If I didn't like her personality, why would I stand by her for this long?
Of course there are sexual thoughts on my mind- I won't deny that, but I'm plenty capable of maintaining self-discipline. This is a non-issue.

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Old Jul 15, 2008, 05:12 AM #149 of 210
Yes, I suppose that when an adult is observed dating a 14-year old, we may indeed make judgments on their character.

You are perceptive to notice this!

We might say, for example, that the person's character is "pathetic" or "deeply infantile" or "lacking in any basic self-respect".

We might say these things, by way of attacking that person's character.

I was speaking idiomatically.
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Old Jul 15, 2008, 08:54 AM Local time: Jul 15, 2008, 06:54 AM #150 of 210
Looks like you're trying to attack my character there and impose your own morals on me, Sass.
No one is imposing their morals on you, you arrogant priss. This is common sense. I mean, I understand that with a lot of you kids it's not as common as one might think but a guy can dream, can't he?

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Sure, things aren't perfect (what relationship is?) but we're good together. I'm more than happy to give the relationship the time and patience that it deserves. We share a lot of interests and enjoy each others' company. If I didn't like her personality, why would I stand by her for this long?
Of course there are sexual thoughts on my mind- I won't deny that, but I'm plenty capable of maintaining self-discipline. This is a non-issue.
I don't think you're reading this properly, chief. See, you're are 18 years old and are dating a girl who is 15. You started dating her when you were 17 and she was 14. You admitted that she's not "ready" for... well, anything really. Do you know what this means? You are dating a child. A CHILD. You are an ADULT.

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Do you see the difference? I mean, even my students in elementary school have their little hormonal crushes on each other but their classmates are all the same age and they're supposed to grow up together. Perhaps when they get to high school and are 14, 15, 16, etc. they can start to date each other as well and that'll be fine because they're all of comparable age. When you start robbing cradles and get uppity because daddy doesn't like it, I think the issue might be lying a bit deeper than we think.

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