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[Multiplatform] Boobs and... Lightsabers - Soul Calibur 4
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Lacerta
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Old Aug 1, 2008, 05:00 PM Local time: Aug 1, 2008, 04:00 PM #126 of 305
I don't know about being able to use the code more than once, but the parts are okay.

Long List of Parts:

M-Uniform A+10 D+20 H+30 Special+45

M-Blazer D+15 H+30 Impact+45 Special +10

M-Format Pants D+15 H+15 Gauge+35

M-Leather Loafers Boost+10

F-White Brim A-15 H+25 Power+25 Impact+25

F-Lace Tie A-20 H+15 Power+10 Impact+10

F-String Necktie A+10 D-10 H+10 Power+10 Special+5

F-Ribbon Tie A-10 D+10 H+10 Impact+10 Gauge+5

F-Feminine Blouse D+10 H+30 Gauge+50

F-Sailor Shirt D+15 H+30 Impact+40 Special+10

F-Knit Vest A+25 D+15 H+15 Power+35

F-Blazer A+15 D+25 H+25 Special+40

F-Short Apron D-20 H+20 Impact+20 Special+20

F-Apron Skirt A-5 D+15 H+10 Boost+40

F-Pleated Checkered Skirt A+20 D+15 H-10 Power+25 Gauge+15

F-Loose Socks A+20 D+10 H+5

F-Knee Socks D+10 H+10 Special+10


Some guy put them up on his photobucket but I don't know how long they will stay up there.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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Old Aug 1, 2008, 07:53 PM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 08:53 AM #127 of 305
God, I can't beat the last couple floors of the tower ascend. Floor 57~59 is hell. The AIs actually uses the tag-team combos to a full extent. Once you get caught, say goodbye to your life gauge.

If anyone has any tips on the damn thing, I'll be bloody thankful for it.

FELIPE NO
Lacerta
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Old Aug 1, 2008, 08:35 PM Local time: Aug 1, 2008, 07:35 PM #128 of 305
Grapple til infinity?

Random 360 people I've heard mention this area used The Apprentice as one of the two characters (mostly because he can take advantage of people he can get into the air)

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Old Aug 1, 2008, 09:28 PM #129 of 305
Wow. The online mode is practically worthless---even when I was the host, there were still 1-2 second hiccups.

It's funny how the only character I lost to was Taki, because the network simply cannot keep up with such short-frame attacks. It's also sad when you start blocking Kilik's low 8WR2/8+A sweep one second in advance and you still get hit. And create-a-faggot mode needs to be removed online completely. Can someone tell me why everyone creates a fat nigger with dreadlocks. It's ok. Just ringed you out with Mitsurugi.

Jam it back in, in the dark.

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Scarletdeath
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Old Aug 1, 2008, 09:47 PM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 10:47 AM #130 of 305
Grapple til infinity?

Random 360 people I've heard mention this area used The Apprentice as one of the two characters (mostly because he can take advantage of people he can get into the air)
I manage to get Astaroth with HP Drain A and Venom A, cleared 57 and 58 with low sweep attacks. Got lucky with the AI on 58 actually. Then at 59; fucking Nightmare is immune to grapple, and blocks every shit I throw at him. Then he comes at me and gang rape me with that damn ring girl. Can't even recall her name now due to anger. Also, for some reason, the AI's grapple counter rate is random. There was a match where I couldn't grapple at all.

As for the Apprentice strat, doesn't work too well. I use him for his B+G grapples to throw mobs off the map, but not much use otherwise. Floor 59 Nightmare seriously blocks all my grapple attempts. I'm quitting this part of the tower until a solid strategy appears. First time I felt so frustrated over a game to the point of throwing the controller out the window.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
Lacerta
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Old Aug 1, 2008, 10:05 PM Local time: Aug 1, 2008, 09:05 PM #131 of 305
The difficulty of it seems to vary each time.

I've heard someone use Nullify Counter A + Soul Drain A + Knock Down with dual Siegfrieds... and just stay back and do one attack whenever they charge. If they get in close try attacking+switching+continuing a combo.

Shave Damage A also seems to be of use if you have a character that puts it to good use.

59F Nightmare is the hardest opponent in the whole Ascending portion of the tower... beating him will take luck or skill, depending on how fortunate or unfortunate you are.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
Scarletdeath
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Old Aug 1, 2008, 10:26 PM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 11:26 AM #132 of 305
Nullify counter seems to be quite pointless. You can't really break enemy's combos with it on anyhow. And by Soul Drain, you mean HP Drain?

But the thing about Siegfried or Nightmares, they can't combo much. Same with Astaroth. When the AIs closes in, if you can't repel them with a knockdown, you're pretty much dead. They could tag-rape you from full health to 0 without pause.

Shave Damage may sound good, but I'd rather slot in HP Drain/Venom A since Shave doesn't do much damage.. Not enough skill points to slot all of that without sacrificing major ATK/DEF/HP stats.

And I also read that some dude actually grappled floor 59 Nightmare all the way. Hard to believe it worked. The AIs must've been on sleep mode when he played it.

Seriously, Namco should work on their AI. Command reading AI is NOT challenging, it simply takes the fun out of a game. I'm taking a break from 57~59. Let me know what you think when you hit those floors.

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Lacerta
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Old Aug 1, 2008, 10:42 PM Local time: Aug 1, 2008, 09:42 PM #133 of 305
Err, yeah I think they meant HP Drain... or rather I hope they did if they were using dual siegs.

It seems they just use his long range poke and back off, repeat until bored.

Apparently the decided "best" equipment set to get through everything except 20F and 45~46F (for non-LE) is:

Hermits Hood (D-15 HP+25 Gauge+25)
Juok Chaplet (HP+5 Boost+15)
Demonic Pauldrons (D+20 HP+25 Gauge+20)
Chain Mail (D+10 HP+10 Gauge+10)
Leviathan Cuirass (D+35 HP+25 Power+25 Special+30)
Lusca Gauntlets (A+20 D+10 HP+10)
Asura Tassets (D+10 HP+20 Gauge+30 Special+10)
Shinobi Tabi (Gauge+10) [If you don't need Gauge you can use Bandages for D+10]
Nightmare Greaves (A+35 D-20 HP+5 Power+30 Gauge+25)

Insert HP Drain A and anything else you can try to fit in for others if you want...

I'll see how much I die when I go to the tower later tonight, still working on Yun-Seong Style Lv9 (two levels to go) so I can have my "ultra easy mode" for a majority of the floors.

I was speaking idiomatically.
Scarletdeath
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Old Aug 1, 2008, 11:09 PM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 12:09 PM #134 of 305
I don't think the long range poke method works well enough. Whenever I step back, the AI starts chasing after me. And often, they wait for me to attack before dropping their own guard and retaliate. Command reading AIs FTL.

There are a couple of "best" sets around, depending on character stats, or skill stats. And by skill stats, there are even more combinations depending on the skills you wish to equip.

If you're interested, this is the female CaS equipment that got me through level 1-56. 45/46 and all that don't matter, it's just the same character but with different style when need arise. I throw in Yun Seong style for Criticals, works wonders on mobs with super ATK/DEF.

Voodoo Crown (D+30 HP+15 Power+35 Special +30)
Ribbon (Gauge+10)
Gorgon Spaulders (D+30 HP+25)
Kunoichi Tights (A+10 HP+10 Power+10 Gauge+10)
Tortoise Cuirass (D+35 HP+25 Gauge+20)
Gorgon Gauntlets (A+20 D+25 HP+5)
Gorgon Fauld (D+40 HP+10 Gauge+20)
Shinobi Tabi (Gauge+10)
Kingfisher Greaves (A+30 D+15 HP+5 Gauge+20)

With Astaroth's style, I have the Nanbanfu Axe equipped and I get a final A-137% D-135% HP-145% with HP Drain A, Venom Fang C and Auto Counter C. My main priority was HP Drain, the rest were to fill up the extra skill points.

You'll only need to get to level 8 for HP Drain A. Heck, if you'll be spamming Yun Seong's -->B, you don't even need HP Drain. Just throw in a Soul Gauge Damage A, available at level 6. If you want an easier run, prepare a 2-3 Astaroths for tag teams as well (or 2-3 Yun Seong, as you'd like it).

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Wow, I cleared floors 57~59. Not sure if it was luck, don't intend to retry and find out. I reworked my Astaroth, gave him higher damage/defense, and spammed my usual sweep attack with Venom A.

Surprisingly, didn't have to grapple at all. And I killed Nightmare before ring girl. Just had to time my mid~long ranged attacks to keep them at bay and let Venom do it's part.

And, floor 60 is easy as hell. Used 3 of my latest Astaroth (will post recipe if anybody interested), and finished Algol in less than a minute. Same tactic as the previous 3 floors. Now I only have 6 more honors left before completing the list.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

Last edited by Scarletdeath; Aug 2, 2008 at 12:46 AM. Reason: This member got a little too post happy.
Lacerta
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Old Aug 2, 2008, 04:29 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 03:29 AM #135 of 305
My team of Super Astaroths plows through anything I have already completed the requirements for (because I'm lazy and want to have all the chests opened)

Only 129% Attack, 116% Defense, and 175% HP, but with 1A(Hold), A or 1A(Hold), B nothing really stands in my way.

Damage is nowhere near my 200% Attack Astaroth, but then that one is for extreme no-skill pray and hope to god they die situations.

FELIPE NO
Scarletdeath
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Old Aug 2, 2008, 06:02 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 07:02 PM #136 of 305
How on earth do you get 175% HP or 200% ATK? When I build a CaS, it's like some force is holding me back, forcing me to balance out the stats. I can't even get a certain stat to 160% without having some other stat to fall below 100%.

But anyhow, let me know how it is when you get to 57 and up. I spammed 1A, A and 1A, B till then. And then it doesn't work that well with 1A, B since they parry it alot easier with the command reading AIs.

Also, farming gold off floor 60 Algol. Getting 12500 every 2~3 minutes lolol

[EDIT] I just realized that the announcer in SCIV is Col. Campbell from MGS. What the hell. "YOU WIN. SCISSORS61."

[EDIT2] Supposedly, the empty slot between Apprentice and Vader is a slot for this new character .

How ya doing, buddy?

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Lacerta
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Old Aug 2, 2008, 06:40 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 05:40 AM #137 of 305
I beat Tower of Lost Souls already.

It took a few tries, but switching out 1A (hold) and regular 1A worked most of the time.

Jam it back in, in the dark.
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Old Aug 2, 2008, 06:41 AM #138 of 305
[EDIT2] Supposedly, the empty slot between Apprentice and Vader is a slot for this new character .
I'm not sure whether to laugh and cry joyously, or piss in my pants. I'm not sure WHAT to think right now.

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Aug 2, 2008, 08:06 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 08:06 AM #139 of 305
Tower of Souls is easy enough for the most part with the right skills, even without having to resort to single spamming moves. Speaking of which, I ripped the Thanatos track from the 60F battle in case anyone wants it, it's 8:58 and 11.1MB or so encoded in Standard VBR. There's no sense in encoding in any higher quality from a line-in source, and it's the same quality I usually rip at so it's good until the official soundtrack. Just need a place to upload to.

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.

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Old Aug 2, 2008, 08:09 AM #140 of 305
I'm not sure whether to laugh and cry joyously, or piss in my pants. I'm not sure WHAT to think right now.
w.t.f. o_o

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Old Aug 2, 2008, 08:18 AM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 11:48 PM #141 of 305
Oh wow, R2D2's inclusion is more fake than LeHah's tough-guy Internet persona.

I was speaking idiomatically.
Lacerta
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Old Aug 2, 2008, 04:20 PM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 03:20 PM #142 of 305
How on earth do you get 175% HP or 200% ATK? When I build a CaS, it's like some force is holding me back, forcing me to balance out the stats. I can't even get a certain stat to 160% without having some other stat to fall below 100%.
A 200% = Astaroth w/ Great Maul + other random +A junk. Everything else will be piss poor but he was used for a different reason.

My HP 175% Astaroth setup is:

Spoiler:
Nightmare Helm Agony (from DLC pack 1) which has A-5 HP+40 and Special+20
Oval Glasses (not sure HOW they don't conflict, but okay)
Juok Chaplet
Warthog Pauldrons
Chain Mail
Noble Garment
Death's Gauntlets
Guiman Yecha
Shinobi Tabi
Warthog Boots

Weapon: Nanbanfu
Skills: HP Drain A, Venom Fang C


Remove the Oval Glasses and you drop from 129% A to 124%, but your HP goes from 175% to 190% I just use them for some chars that can make use of that +Impact so Counter Hits don't do extra damage.

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?

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Old Aug 2, 2008, 07:00 PM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 07:00 PM #143 of 305
I can't seem to win a match online at all, and those are the last achievements I really need. I'm more of a reflexive player using Taki or Mitsurugi, but it seems like both of them are out the window because everyone and their dog chooses either Kilik, Astaroth, or Nightmare and then begins spamming the holy hell out of every distance move they can knowing you can't defend from it. That 1 second delay simply does not allow for it.

Any suggestions as to what I can do to neutralize this?

FELIPE NO
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Old Aug 2, 2008, 07:47 PM #144 of 305
If you can't win online using Taki, and lose to the likes of Astaroth, you're terrible.

What, you don't want my bikini-clad body?
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Old Aug 2, 2008, 07:51 PM Local time: Aug 2, 2008, 07:51 PM #145 of 305
I'd concede that if the game were playing at full speed online, however it is not.

I can impact the fuck out of almost every slower character normally, but I'd be lucky to even land a single impact against them online.

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Old Aug 2, 2008, 08:18 PM #146 of 305
I can GI just fine online, but I'll admit that it really only happens against short frame attacks. Soul Calibur is largely an offensive game, and even more so online---since the lag is so fucking awful, you have to practically "predict" what your opponent is going to do, and buffer data into the network before the other person can. Quicker characters such as Taki and Maxi clearly have the advantage here.

If I'm fighting against the larger characters, I always close the gap by using a strong attack that moves the character a considerable distance forward. I would also imagine that the attacks could be either sidestepped or ducked...

There's nowhere I can't reach.
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Old Aug 3, 2008, 01:54 AM #147 of 305
I can't seem to win a match online at all, and those are the last achievements I really need. I'm more of a reflexive player using Taki or Mitsurugi, but it seems like both of them are out the window because everyone and their dog chooses either Kilik, Astaroth, or Nightmare and then begins spamming the holy hell out of every distance move they can knowing you can't defend from it. That 1 second delay simply does not allow for it.

Any suggestions as to what I can do to neutralize this?
Chances are, they're non tracking. Sidestep, launch, GG. If they start sidewalking with you to help with their tracking, it's a good time to start trying to put them in a mix up. Remember, if an attack is high, you can duck them and whiff punish. I just hate that so many of the while standing moves in the game are highs also...

This thing is sticky, and I don't like it. I don't appreciate it.
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Old Aug 3, 2008, 03:36 AM Local time: Aug 3, 2008, 04:36 PM #148 of 305
I can't seem to win a match online at all, and those are the last achievements I really need. I'm more of a reflexive player using Taki or Mitsurugi, but it seems like both of them are out the window because everyone and their dog chooses either Kilik, Astaroth, or Nightmare and then begins spamming the holy hell out of every distance move they can knowing you can't defend from it. That 1 second delay simply does not allow for it.

Any suggestions as to what I can do to neutralize this?
How can you say that the tower is easy while you can't win a fight online? I have over 80 consecutive wins with Taki online but I find floors 57~59 in the tower to be mad hard.

If your opponents spam Kilik/Astaroth/Nightmare, spam them back with fast characters. I hadn't had any problems with Taki. Another protip, upgrade your character's ATK/DEF/HP stats. Having good skills equipped but low in character stats and you're dead anyway.

Also @Lace: 200% ATK Astaroth kills enemies in 2 hits, but has shitty overall stats.. Unfortunately not ideal for tower usage.

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Old Aug 3, 2008, 03:41 AM #149 of 305
How can you say that the tower is easy while you can't win a fight online? I have over 80 consecutive wins with Taki online but I find floors 57~59 in the tower to be mad hard.

If your opponents spam Kilik/Astaroth/Nightmare, spam them back with fast characters. I hadn't had any problems with Taki. Another protip, upgrade your character's ATK/DEF/HP stats. Having good skills equipped but low in character stats and you're dead anyway.
Beating the computer does not requires more luck then actual skill at the game. It's the same with any fighting game. Playing against another person is a whole different world. Even when you're a competitive level player, there's certain thought patterns you have to keep in mind when fighting other people. in the span of 2 - 4 rounds, you have to figure out:

Do they know what they're doing?
Was that a set up or just random?
Are they good at breaking grabs?
Do they like to turtle because that's their playstyle?

Various other factors I can't think of at the moment. I hope you get my point though.

I was speaking idiomatically.
Scarletdeath
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Old Aug 3, 2008, 03:49 AM Local time: Aug 3, 2008, 04:49 PM #150 of 305
I know for one thing: my skills aren't good enough for head on collision against floor 57~59 AIs. I got over those floors by playing it safe, hanging back and using longer ranged attacks. It's purely luck against the AIs. If it counts for anything, I had no problem farming Algol on floor 60 either.

As for online, I have no trouble anticipating what you mentioned from other people. Heck, I don't even need to grapple them to win if they have auto grapple equipped.


On the side note, only 4 honors left! Wooo~

What kind of toxic man-thing is happening now?
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